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Post#401 » by VDT » Fri Nov 1, 2019 10:58 am

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Mik317 wrote:this is a troll take but I need to get it off my chest lol.

Giannis is simply setting the stage for him to leave


How many times have we seen it in the nba? A player like Giannis signs his second contract with a small market team, and the clock just starts ticking on him.

This is why teams need to tank while they can. The Bucks didn’t do it, and now they are stuck with one superstar, and if they can’t win with him before this contract ends they will lose him because they are capped out.


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You are not wrong but the Bucks were the team with the best record last year and Giannis is still only 24. If he has quit on his team this says more about how spoiled today's stars are than it says about the quality of the Bucks FO.
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Post#402 » by Ericb5 » Fri Nov 1, 2019 12:09 pm

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Ericb5 wrote:
Mik317 wrote:this is a troll take but I need to get it off my chest lol.

Giannis is simply setting the stage for him to leave


How many times have we seen it in the nba? A player like Giannis signs his second contract with a small market team, and the clock just starts ticking on him.

This is why teams need to tank while they can. The Bucks didn’t do it, and now they are stuck with one superstar, and if they can’t win with him before this contract ends they will lose him because they are capped out.


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You are not wrong but the Bucks were the team with the best record last year and Giannis is still only 24. If he has quit on his team this says more about how spoiled today's stars are than it says about the quality of the Bucks FO.


I think he is on a contender at the moment, or at least right near that level, but he will have a harder time contending in Millwaukee by himself than he would with another star, and eventually I expect that he will move on because they will be hard pressed to add that second star.


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Post#403 » by cool93 » Fri Nov 1, 2019 12:15 pm

snoopdogg88 wrote:Giannis might leave, just not really sure where he would go. Lakers and Clippers don’t have much cap space. Nets are our. Knicks are lol.

What “legacy building” big market is out there. Toronto? But who would he play with?
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Post#404 » by 76ciology » Fri Nov 1, 2019 12:53 pm

Maybe Hinkie was right after all..

Brandon Ingram
26ppg 8rpg 4.8apg 1.2bpg 50% FG% and 50% 3pt% 76% FT%

Will Ben be as good in 3 years? Maybe.
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Post#405 » by Eyeamok » Fri Nov 1, 2019 1:48 pm

So if the warriors don't make the playoffs the basketball gods will give them a top 5 pick. Which they will trade for a win now veteran and be back to being a serious contender for the NBA championship next season. It could happen.
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Post#406 » by Eyeamok » Fri Nov 1, 2019 1:52 pm

76ciology wrote:Maybe Hinkie was right after all..

Brandon Ingram
26ppg 8rpg 4.8apg 1.2bpg 50% FG% and 50% 3pt% 76% FT%

Will Ben be as good in 3 years? Maybe.


I wanted Brandon Ingram to be our pick....but only because everyone wanted Ben. :D But I am glad they picked Ben. He just has to improve in one critical area.

But you are right. Hinkie was correct. He picked Okafor and he put up 26 points last night in a win over Denver. A western conference powerhouse. (well at least at this point in the season).
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Post#407 » by Sixerscan » Fri Nov 1, 2019 2:01 pm

Okafor easily dropped 26 on Jokic who is definitely not fat and a terrible defensive player.
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Post#408 » by Kobblehead » Fri Nov 1, 2019 2:28 pm

FreesFro wrote:Could Brogdon be more than a role player? Do we need more than a role player though? He won't be paid max will he?

50/40/90 is not too shabby.


Kobblehead wrote:Absolutley, he can. His per-36 scoring was at 19.7 this year. He's itching for Buddy Hield-like breakout.


eyeatoma wrote:Wow lol


Kobblehead wrote:Buddy Hield in 2018: 13.5 ppg (but 19.2 per36)

If you were surprised by Hield being a 20 point scorer this year, you just weren't tracking the trajectory.

Brogdon is on a similar cusp of scoring breakout that Hield was on in 2018.


I tried to tell ya this Malcolm Brogdon breakout was coming. It was sooooo easy to see coming.
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Post#409 » by Negrodamus » Fri Nov 1, 2019 2:39 pm

76ciology wrote:Maybe Hinkie was right after all..

Brandon Ingram
26ppg 8rpg 4.8apg 1.2bpg 50% FG% and 50% 3pt% 76% FT%

Will Ben be as good in 3 years? Maybe.


I don't anticipate him keeping this up, but this could end up being the situation I feared: Ben never learning how to shoot and Ingram figuring out how to score despite his slight frame.
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Post#410 » by 76ciology » Fri Nov 1, 2019 2:49 pm

I dont think Ingram can keep up with his shooting %s but there’s definitely sign that he’s about to take a leap IMO. His FT% is also up.
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Post#411 » by 76ciology » Fri Nov 1, 2019 2:51 pm

Eyeamok wrote:So if the warriors don't make the playoffs the basketball gods will give them a top 5 pick. Which they will trade for a win now veteran and be back to being a serious contender for the NBA championship next season. It could happen.


Giannis.
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Post#412 » by Sixerscan » Fri Nov 1, 2019 3:05 pm

Negrodamus wrote:
76ciology wrote:Maybe Hinkie was right after all..

Brandon Ingram
26ppg 8rpg 4.8apg 1.2bpg 50% FG% and 50% 3pt% 76% FT%

Will Ben be as good in 3 years? Maybe.


I don't anticipate him keeping this up, but this could end up being the situation I feared: Ben never learning how to shoot and Ingram figuring out how to score despite his slight frame.


Feel like we do this every time he has a good week? They're 1-4.
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Post#413 » by Negrodamus » Fri Nov 1, 2019 3:17 pm

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76ciology wrote:Maybe Hinkie was right after all..

Brandon Ingram
26ppg 8rpg 4.8apg 1.2bpg 50% FG% and 50% 3pt% 76% FT%

Will Ben be as good in 3 years? Maybe.


I don't anticipate him keeping this up, but this could end up being the situation I feared: Ben never learning how to shoot and Ingram figuring out how to score despite his slight frame.


Feel like we do this every time he has a good week? They're 1-4.


I.... don't really know how that's relevant. The Sixers are a much better team than the Pelicans.

I'm talking about long term scoring potential between Simmons and Ingram. Records don't really matter. I also led with the caveat that Ingram's percentages aren't likely to be sustainable, but it's a step in the right direction for his scoring ability.
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Post#414 » by Kobblehead » Fri Nov 1, 2019 3:18 pm

So what does this mean for the Pelicans? If you were making decisions, would you start your clock early by maxing Ingram?
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Post#415 » by Sixerscan » Fri Nov 1, 2019 3:34 pm

Negrodamus wrote:
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I don't anticipate him keeping this up, but this could end up being the situation I feared: Ben never learning how to shoot and Ingram figuring out how to score despite his slight frame.


Feel like we do this every time he has a good week? They're 1-4.


I.... don't really know how that's relevant. The Sixers are a much better team than the Pelicans.

I'm talking about long term scoring potential between Simmons and Ingram. Records don't really matter. I also led with the caveat that Ingram's percentages aren't likely to be sustainable, but it's a step in the right direction for his scoring ability.


I just mean the Pelicans are bad, someone has to score points and he's the one being given the ball. Similar deal when he would have good stretches on the Lakers. Then when he would get taken off the ball and have to operate in a team game his scoring and efficiency would plummet. At least that's what has happened historically with him, still relatively young obviously. Interested to see how he reacts to Zion coming back.
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Post#416 » by Sixerscan » Fri Nov 1, 2019 3:36 pm

Kobblehead wrote:So what does this mean for the Pelicans? If you were making decisions, would you start your clock early by maxing Ingram?


I think that deadline has passed? Either way with his high cap hold and lack of track record I would just wait, granted clearly I'm lower on him that some.
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Post#417 » by Negrodamus » Fri Nov 1, 2019 3:38 pm

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Feel like we do this every time he has a good week? They're 1-4.


I.... don't really know how that's relevant. The Sixers are a much better team than the Pelicans.

I'm talking about long term scoring potential between Simmons and Ingram. Records don't really matter. I also led with the caveat that Ingram's percentages aren't likely to be sustainable, but it's a step in the right direction for his scoring ability.


I just mean the Pelicans are bad, someone has to score points and he's the one being given the ball. Similar deal when he would have good stretches on the Lakers. Then when he would get taken off the ball and have to operate in a team game his scoring and efficiency would plummet. At least that's what has happened historically with him, still relatively young obviously. Interested to see how he reacts to Zion coming back.


Right, but it would be one thing if he's a volume, inefficient scorer, a la Donovan Mitchell his rookie year. However, he's doing it pretty efficiently. Once again, only five game sample though.
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Re: Around the League - 2019-2020 

Post#418 » by Sixerscan » Fri Nov 1, 2019 3:40 pm

Negrodamus wrote:
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Negrodamus wrote:
I.... don't really know how that's relevant. The Sixers are a much better team than the Pelicans.

I'm talking about long term scoring potential between Simmons and Ingram. Records don't really matter. I also led with the caveat that Ingram's percentages aren't likely to be sustainable, but it's a step in the right direction for his scoring ability.


I just mean the Pelicans are bad, someone has to score points and he's the one being given the ball. Similar deal when he would have good stretches on the Lakers. Then when he would get taken off the ball and have to operate in a team game his scoring and efficiency would plummet. At least that's what has happened historically with him, still relatively young obviously. Interested to see how he reacts to Zion coming back.


Right, but it would be one thing if he's a volume, inefficient scorer, a la Donovan Mitchell his rookie year. However, he's doing it pretty efficiently. Once again, only five game sample though.


Sure yeah if he can actually be a high volume first option on a good team for longer than a few weeks at a time then it's a whole new ball game.
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Post#419 » by LloydFree » Fri Nov 1, 2019 5:29 pm

The Bulls are a consistent source of amusement for me. They were taking bows for trading Bobby Portis and Jabari Parker for Otto Porter last year. Now they’re paying him 30 million to put up 9ppg and 3rpg. SMH. Dude should be better than that, but never is. Just a waste of time. SMH.
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Post#420 » by 76ciology » Fri Nov 1, 2019 7:16 pm

Sucks to be a bucks fan.

Team is maxed out. Sixers looks upgraded, their’s look like it took a step back. Giannis shows some signs of leaving. Brogdon looking more like steve nash 2.0 than some accountant working at dunder mifflin
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