76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2

[76ciology]

If Joel is shut down for the year, we absolutely need to trade Tobias immediately. Keeping him, in my mind, was about continuity. He is liked by everyone and there’s a rapport that would be invaluable come playoff time. Without Embiid, there’s no reason to compete for anything. Get value out if what’s left of his contract.

All that said, I’m fully expecting Embiid to play through the injury just like he has in years past when he got an injury that will eventually require surgery. It’s not like tearing an ACL.

I think thats the plan

Why?

We don't know the extent of the injury. While I don't trust the Sixers medical staff any more than you do, at least right now we have no idea of the extent of the tear. Obviously, if it is a significant tear, you have him get the surgery ASAP, but there are two other treatment options if it is not a significant team (rest and meniscectomy) that could have him back in April. And if he can come back this season safely - if the tear is not significant enough for full-blown surgery - then the Sixers must try to get everything they can out of this season...because every Embiid season is precious and should not be wasted.

And if he can come back in April, who cares if they are a 6 or 7 seed? Miami went to the Finals last season as a 7 seed. If Embiid can come back and play (without further damaging the knee), then the only difference between a 3 seed and a 6 seed is one home game.

And I also think that Morey should be aggressive at the deadline. Not doing anything major and letting all of those expired contracts go to waste makes no sense. You can say that they can have a 3rd max or near-max slot this summer, but that will require them to renounce virtually everybody, meaning 1) you have no shot at doing something like signing Harris to a 2-3 year price/value contract, and 2) you will be left with Embiid, Maxey, a 3rd guy, and a bunch of exception and vets minimum contracts - which won't be a lot of fun...especially if Embiid is on the 50-game plan starting next season.

If you can get Murray at the deadline, get him.

Negrodamus was referring for to a situation where Embiid is shut down for the year (which i’d assume as this season), if thats the case then you need to max our Tobi’s value as a trade chip.

But if there are no good offers out there then maybe we can re-sign him as the “3rd option B” with a $20+m contract?

I think you have to play defensive/conservative now, and trading for Dejounte doesnt seem like it. You kind of need a sure thing now (i.e trade for Paul George?) or just we do something that wont cost us flexibility (i.e they say trade for Brogdon fits that category).

If Biid was healthy, I dont mind trade for Caruso and Grant. Or maybe Tyus Jones and Jonathan Isaac. But now with Embiid’s health is in limbo, then i dont think you can do a move like that.

Just my two cents.

[GutUNC]

I don't think that'll happen, but I do recommend shutting him down until after the AS break. Kendrick Perkins is a buffoon, but I don't completely disagree with him here like I usually do. Also, Woj is spot on about us being lotto team if we do decide to call it.

I realize this is a crazy thought, but how about we shut Embiid down for the exact amount of time his knee requires instead of setting up random return dates based on sticking our pointer fingers in the air?

Why is this being approached like some impossibly difficult puzzle? Have a competent medical professional diagnose him (we admittedly might have to hire one first) and establish the timeline, whether it's a week, a month or a year. This isn't complicated.

That's not necessarily what I was doing. I was suggesting that Perkins is of course overreacting as he usually does. He's an idiot and that's no secret.

As for me personally, I suggested Feb 24 which would give an inflamed knee ample time to settle down. I'm not exactly sure on how long he would need to sit because I'm no doctor, but if the goal is to have him healthy and at 100% again, then that timeframe should give him plenty of time to not only get the inflammation down, but also physically get himself back where he needs to be for the stretch run.

I wasn't necessarily coming after your post personally, just any artificial deadline. Unless you picked Feb. 24 because it's my birthday, it's a random point in time.

He should sit as long as he needs to sit to be healthy for the postseason and only a competent doctor can tell us when that is.

[SixthStreet]

What good players on kind of bad multi-year money are out there to trade for? I can only think of Wiggins, guys that in theory won't cost FRPs to obtain, just expirings and seconds.

[M2J]

It's definitely not time to punt on this year. You fix the roster and get him back for playoffs.

In regards to sham's tweet... Last postseason the internet doctors stated that anytime there's a sprained meniscus that means there's at least micro tears to it or frays to the ligament.

If this doctor is right and he has had a tear the whole time. Again him being the highest usage player in the league needs to change...

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[M2J]

Congrats again to Maxey. For him to go out there and get 51pts the night of his all star selection and the team really needing him to lift them out of a 4 game losing streak was huge.

It was also a beautiful first half. That step back on Dunn, and that in and out dribble to the left on George finishing around Kessler were just amazing highlights.

I feel like his confidence is gonna take off from this game and that all star selection.

[Zumramania]

Why doesn't Ricky Council get any minutes? He looked good in the few minutes he's played this season. He at least looked like a basketball player, unlike some other players on our roster (Springer, KJ Martin). Korkmaz is also getting minutes, although he does not want to be here.

[Bum Adebayo]

The way Embiid was treated after the Denver game took me out a bit. Lets ignore that this is 7'2 240+ man, lets ignore that he plays and moves like a guard, and above all, lets forget that he has an extensive injury history. We'll all just come to the conclusion that he's ducking the guy he just cooked two weeks ago. They rarely even guard each other during their matchups, that's what makes the ducking acquisitions even more absurd. Embiid shouldn't have been playing if was hurt vs GSW, and the Sixers have to ignore the outside noise and do what's best for us. Very disappointed but not surprised

Not this again, he is NOT ducking Jokic in Denver, he is ducking the altitude, he almost never plays in Denver as well as he skips Utah most of the time.

[Bum Adebayo]

It's a really unfortunate situation we are in, we had the chance to get a MASSIVE haul for Embiid after winning MVP, but not anymore, this is a dude that is very injury prone while not elevating his play in Playoffs when he was healthy. Not his fault, but this team's fault for not seeing this, it was plain evident.

[Negrodamus]

Why doesn't Ricky Council get any minutes? He looked good in the few minutes he's played this season. He at least looked like a basketball player, unlike some other players on our roster (Springer, KJ Martin). Korkmaz is also getting minutes, although he does not want to be here.

My guess is he's still getting comfortable with the scheme and speed of the NBA, so he'd be a liability in team defense situations. Also would probably be constantly fouling due to his aggressive nature, a la early Paul Reed.

[the_process]

Can we talk about Nick Nurse? Dude needs to lay off the minutes on his players.

A rested Maxey went out and killed it last night. Coincidence?

Why can we not have some competent leadership?

[the_process]

Congrats again to Maxey. For him to go out there and get 51pts the night of his all star selection and the team really needing him to lift them out of a 4 game losing streak was huge.

It was also a beautiful first half. That step back on Dunn, and that in and out dribble to the left on George finishing around Kessler were just amazing highlights.

I feel like his confidence is gonna take off from this game and that all star selection.

Until Nurse runs him into the ground again. 41 minutes last night. In January in Utah.

[Eyeamok]

Congrats again to Maxey. For him to go out there and get 51pts the night of his all star selection and the team really needing him to lift them out of a 4 game losing streak was huge.

It was also a beautiful first half. That step back on Dunn, and that in and out dribble to the left on George finishing around Kessler were just amazing highlights.

I feel like his confidence is gonna take off from this game and that all star selection.

Until Nurse runs him into the ground again. 41 minutes last night. In January in Utah.

Jocko Willink said Embiid is out, good. Give the keys to Maxey. Nurse runs Maxey into the ground, good Maxey is young he will recover. But what if Maxey just falls off? Jacko says good we earn a higher draft pick. Maxey learned a lot from Harden, now he gets to learn how to be a closer without Harden or Embiid for half a season....good.

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[the_process]

Congrats again to Maxey. For him to go out there and get 51pts the night of his all star selection and the team really needing him to lift them out of a 4 game losing streak was huge.

It was also a beautiful first half. That step back on Dunn, and that in and out dribble to the left on George finishing around Kessler were just amazing highlights.

I feel like his confidence is gonna take off from this game and that all star selection.

Until Nurse runs him into the ground again. 41 minutes last night. In January in Utah.

Jocko Willink said Embiid is out, good. Give the keys to Maxey. Nurse runs Maxey into the ground, good Maxey is young he will recover. But what if Maxey just falls off? Jacko says good we earn a higher draft pick. Maxey learned a lot from Harden, now he gets to learn how to be a closer without Harden or Embiid for half a season....good.

Not sure who you're referring to or if that's a random imaginary person. But Maxey can learn to be a closer without playing 41 mins at altitude fresh off an injury/illness.

I remember Morey brushing off the Maxey minutes thing with the "he's young he'll be fine" too. No. Tired players get hurt easier and shoot worse. Also no one gets an infinite amount of minutes in their legs. This isn't 2K fatigue off.

[Eyeamok]

Until Nurse runs him into the ground again. 41 minutes last night. In January in Utah.

Jocko Willink said Embiid is out, good. Give the keys to Maxey. Nurse runs Maxey into the ground, good Maxey is young he will recover. But what if Maxey just falls off? Jacko says good we earn a higher draft pick. Maxey learned a lot from Harden, now he gets to learn how to be a closer without Harden or Embiid for half a season....good.

Not sure who you're referring to or if that's a random imaginary person. But Maxey can learn to be a closer without playing 41 mins at altitude fresh off an injury/illness.

I remember Morey brushing off the Maxey minutes thing with the "he's young he'll be fine" too. No. Tired players get hurt easier and shoot worse. Also no one gets an infinite amount of minutes in their legs. This isn't 2K fatigue off.

Not saying you are wrong. But if Maxey is tired he needs to speak up and say "I'm tired I need a break!" To me it's part of being a leader and understanding your body. I am sure Maxey has people around him that won't let him run himself into the ground. And if he does not he needs to get some.

[Jailblazers7]

I know there has been some light grumbling about Paul Reed this season & not living up to his extension but I think we’re going to see an awesome stretch from him with Joel out.

This is probably a make or break moment for Mo Bamba too. If he can’t show value in this opportunity, then he’s out of the league.

[Eyeamok]

I know there has been some light grumbling about Paul Reed this season & not living up to his extension but I think we’re going to see an awesome stretch from him with Joel out.

This is probably a make or break moment for Mo Bamba too. If he can’t show value in this opportunity, then he’s out of the league.

Good !

[LeonJordanJr24]

We need to get that game changing two way player to help Maxdy and Embiid. Or a scorer one on one skills.

[the_process]

Jocko Willink said Embiid is out, good. Give the keys to Maxey. Nurse runs Maxey into the ground, good Maxey is young he will recover. But what if Maxey just falls off? Jacko says good we earn a higher draft pick. Maxey learned a lot from Harden, now he gets to learn how to be a closer without Harden or Embiid for half a season....good.

Not sure who you're referring to or if that's a random imaginary person. But Maxey can learn to be a closer without playing 41 mins at altitude fresh off an injury/illness.

I remember Morey brushing off the Maxey minutes thing with the "he's young he'll be fine" too. No. Tired players get hurt easier and shoot worse. Also no one gets an infinite amount of minutes in their legs. This isn't 2K fatigue off.

Not saying you are wrong. But if Maxey is tired he needs to speak up and say "I'm tired I need a break!" To me it's part of being a leader and understanding your body. I am sure Maxey has people around him that won't let him run himself into the ground. And if he does not he needs to get some.

You've played sports? Guys want to be the superhero.

And if Maxey did have the self awareness and discipline (he's 23, so he doesn't) to say he was tired? "Come on man, toughen up, we need you out there." That's the G rated version of what they would say to him. Someone else needs to tell Nurse no.

[Murray_17]

Springer didn't do that much offensively yesterday but these are the type of games that shoild give him minutes on the rotation.Guy created a stupid amount of transition baskets

[Eyeamok]

Not sure who you're referring to or if that's a random imaginary person. But Maxey can learn to be a closer without playing 41 mins at altitude fresh off an injury/illness.

I remember Morey brushing off the Maxey minutes thing with the "he's young he'll be fine" too. No. Tired players get hurt easier and shoot worse. Also no one gets an infinite amount of minutes in their legs. This isn't 2K fatigue off.

Not saying you are wrong. But if Maxey is tired he needs to speak up and say "I'm tired I need a break!" To me it's part of being a leader and understanding your body. I am sure Maxey has people around him that won't let him run himself into the ground. And if he does not he needs to get some.

You've played sports? Guys want to be the superhero.

And if Maxey did have the self awareness and discipline (he's 23, so he doesn't) to say he was tired? "Come on man, toughen up, we need you out there." That's the G rated version of what they would say to him. Someone else needs to tell Nurse no.

This is not the YMCA, the park or the local work team. This is the NBA it's a business first and then a sport. Maxey has an agent that is his mouthpiece. An agent that is going to make a nice payday this upcoming off-season when Maxey signs his next contract. So if he is not speaking up for Maxey talking to Maxey and finding out how he is really feeling, then Maxey is not doing a good job relating to his agent. And his agent is not doing a good job knowing what is best for Maxey.