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Re: Welcome Okafor 

Post#421 » by DowNY » Sun Jun 28, 2015 6:14 pm

76sbrazil wrote:NYK have to tank like a boss next season, and then take a good pick !!! lol

Knicks ain't tanking next season. No reason to. Don't have a pick.
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Post#422 » by CoreyGallagher » Sun Jun 28, 2015 6:17 pm

76sbrazil wrote:did you really think porzingis was a bad pick ?
I think we have to chear that hinkie dont catch this guy but he is a nice surprise at all.
Hinkie took the best player on the board, did jackson tried to ship porzingis to us? I think yes.

Welcome to the board! I agree that Porzingis was a fine pick by the Knicks, I don't understand why the draftniks were saying that he supposedly can't contribute right away, he's thin, but he's a shooter and those ridiculously long appendages will allow him to do some things from get go.
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Re: Welcome Okafor 

Post#423 » by 76sbrazil » Sun Jun 28, 2015 6:18 pm

DowNY wrote:
76sbrazil wrote:NYK have to tank like a boss next season, and then take a good pick !!! lol

Knicks ain't tanking next season. No reason to. Don't have a pick.


Right.
In a point of view , its good.
Any fan deserve his team tanking. :crazy:
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Post#424 » by 76sbrazil » Sun Jun 28, 2015 6:22 pm

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76sbrazil wrote:did you really think porzingis was a bad pick ?
I think we have to chear that hinkie dont catch this guy but he is a nice surprise at all.
Hinkie took the best player on the board, did jackson tried to ship porzingis to us? I think yes.

Welcome to the board! I agree that Porzingis was a fine pick by the Knicks, I don't understand why the draftniks were saying that he supposedly can't contribute right away, he's thin, but he's a shooter and those ridiculously long appendages will allow him to do some things.



Thanks Corey.
he was a good pick to nyk for sure.
Before draft I thought hinkie ( as a mad scientist he is) wold try to trade for hin. Jackson thought the same i guess
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Post#425 » by Wonderllama » Sun Jun 28, 2015 6:38 pm

Okafor for Porzingis and Grant. That's kinda fair, right?
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Post#426 » by N Y K » Sun Jun 28, 2015 6:39 pm

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MRxBLACK wrote:^Exactly this. Hinkie took Okafor because he thought he was BPA, not to squeeze NY's next 1st round pick in 2032 out of them.

I mostly agree with this.

Hinkie wanted what he thought was BPA. That's definitely fine and good. But I think grabbing the Knicks guy was definitely an added incentive for Hinkie to grab him. At some point, these teams will be battling for spots in the Atlantic (what a thought ha!) and screwing each other in some way should be an incentive.

Not sure why Philly doesn't get as much love from FAs honestly. But the draft is Philly's way to amass talent. So, yes, BPA was the predominant reason for pick IMO.


Well hold up. Do you think the TWolves drafted Towns in part because the Lakers wanted him? The Lakers Russell because the Sixers wanted him? The Knicks Porzingis b/c of the Magic?

Sure, the Sixers are "screwing" you in the sense that they aren't passing on who they think is the best player available, but that's just what the draft is. The Sixers want the best collection of talent, and I guess that technically means that the other 29 teams have less talent, but i don't really think that's at all a concern.

I love New York City, but the this is classic NYC entitlement. Everything is about them.

Also, he's not the Knicks guy, he's the Sixers' guy.

It's not an entitlement at all. I think that is an EXTREME misconception. It is far from all about NYC, trust me.

All I said is, we are in the same conference and screwing a direct competitor is a nice added bonus and probably had (even the slightest) impact on the choice. This is a game of strategy, right? Even if Hinkie's game plan is pretty simple (as you point out collecting best talent, i.e. BPA always), there have to be side incentives is all.

I think Okafor is going to be fantastic and will do a lot of great things in Philly. It's a shame Russell wasn't there, he would have been the better pick for you.

But how you could read entitlement from what I said, I don't get. That is a stretch. Simply saying there are a lot of factors that contribute to a pick and you have to consider who is above, below you, and is available -- but do agree that Okafor was BPA and is why he was selected.

Slight edit to clarify: knicks guy was a reference to fit with Jackson's mission. That's all.
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Post#427 » by Leor_77 » Sun Jun 28, 2015 6:39 pm

Hey guys, Lakers fan here...Just wanted to say that I thought it was pretty damn disrespectful for Okafor to drop your guys' jersey after taking his picture with your other picks.

That aside, I think you got a potentially great player. Even though I wanted Russ, I was resigned to the fact that the Lakers were picking Jah up, so I watched a ton of videos, researched stats on him, etc. He was the expected #1 pick since High School (not sure if that started just his senior year, or if it was even before that). People have had a lot of time to criticize him, but he basically stayed as the #1 consensus guy till about 4-5 months before the draft. It's a big deal to have those kinds of expectations, and to then be able to live up to them.

He obviously had an injury in February, but before that he showed a lot more athleticism/explosiveness. You see a lot of finesse, and laying the ball in near the rim, but earlier in the year (before the injury) he was dunking all of them. I've seen him even run the floor and outrun smaller guys for transition buckets. He also can put the ball up very quickly when he's in the post. He just grabs the entry pass and goes right up and shoots over the guy guarding him. His mid-range bank shot is money. Also, what is very impressive is that you can see that he has a dominant attitude when he plays. After a lot of big plays, he will scream/yell, and just get really hyped. Also, the fact that he shot 65%, and he's not a Deandre Jordan/Tyson Chandler type who pretty much ONLY dunk the ball, is very impressive.
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Re: Welcome Okafor 

Post#428 » by 76sbrazil » Sun Jun 28, 2015 6:43 pm

Wonderllama wrote:Okafor for Porzingis and Grant. That's kinda fair, right?


I realy dont like this, but i dont know J Grant so much. Did he so better than the Grant we already have?
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Post#429 » by CoreyGallagher » Sun Jun 28, 2015 6:48 pm

76sbrazil wrote:
Wonderllama wrote:Okafor for Porzingis and Grant. That's kinda fair, right?


I realy dont like this, but i dont know J Grant so much. Did he so better than the Grant we already have?

Jerian Grant is a PG and actually Jerami Grant's older brother, he's quite good and I would have loved to of acquired him if we could have moved up in the draft. However, regarding the trade, with the uncertainty surrounding Embiid I believe we're fine sitting pat with Okafor and figuring out what to do later.
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Post#430 » by Leor_77 » Sun Jun 28, 2015 6:50 pm

Regarding bust potential: Again, I researched all of this because I was convinced the Lakers were going to take him. I took a look at guys like Anthony Bennett and Hasheem Thabeet, and I learned that even though they were picked extremely high, draft analysts already knew that their post-game skills were absolute trash. I saw that the bigs in the NBA who ended up being successful, did so because they had good post-up skills (other skills, as well). He clearly fits into that group that will be successful. He's also in much better shape lately since working out at P3, although I would probably recommend that he loses 5-10 lbs additional (to mitigate injury). Lastly, from learning about this dude, he's going to really want to crush the league because people are doubting him, and I think he can, with skills that will clearly translate to the NBA from day one, especially in the East. I just thought I should share my thoughts because I did a sht load of research on this guy, again, because I was so sure that we were taking him, and so I didn't want it to go to waste.

I'm hoping we got a stud in Russ, and that he doesn't turn into Evan Turner 2.0, but we'll just have to see. Seems like OSU hasn't produced that much notable NBA talent (i.e. Koufous, Turner, Oden, Sullinger, Conley <--probably the best NBA player from there). We'll have to see how things turn out.
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Post#431 » by 76ers 2020 » Sun Jun 28, 2015 6:51 pm

The person that edited the video to make it look like Okafor dropped the jersey gets an A+ trolling grade. Looks a lot different this way.

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Post#432 » by 76sbrazil » Sun Jun 28, 2015 6:56 pm

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76sbrazil wrote:
Wonderllama wrote:Okafor for Porzingis and Grant. That's kinda fair, right?


I realy dont like this, but i dont know J Grant so much. Did he so better than the Grant we already have?

Jerian Grant is a PG and actually Jerami Grant's older brother, he's quite good and I would have loved to of acquired him if we could have moved up in the draft. However, regarding the trade, with the uncertainty surrounding Embiid I believe we're fine sitting pat with Okafor and figuring out what to do later.


Nice. taking a look on his videos right now,looks real good at all.
Porzings is a unknown, this guy can be Nowitzky or Milicit. who you bet?
but I dont agree whit this trade.
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Post#433 » by Sportfan73 » Sun Jun 28, 2015 7:07 pm

Leor_77 wrote:Hey guys, Lakers fan here...Just wanted to say that I thought it was pretty damn disrespectful for Okafor to drop your guys' jersey after taking his picture with your other picks.

That aside, I think you got a potentially great player. Even though I wanted Russ, I was resigned to the fact that the Lakers were picking Jah up, so I watched a ton of videos, researched stats on him, etc. He was the expected #1 pick since High School (not sure if that started just his senior year, or if it was even before that). People have had a lot of time to criticize him, but he basically stayed as the #1 consensus guy till about 4-5 months before the draft. It's a big deal to have those kinds of expectations, and to then be able to live up to them.

He obviously had an injury in February, but before that he showed a lot more athleticism/explosiveness. You see a lot of finesse, and laying the ball in near the rim, but earlier in the year (before the injury) he was dunking all of them. I've seen him even run the floor and outrun smaller guys for transition buckets. He also can put the ball up very quickly when he's in the post. He just grabs the entry pass and goes right up and shoots over the guy guarding him. His mid-range bank shot is money. Also, what is very impressive is that you can see that he has a dominant attitude when he plays. After a lot of big plays, he will scream/yell, and just get really hyped. Also, the fact that he shot 65%, and he's not a Deandre Jordan/Tyson Chandler type who pretty much ONLY dunk the ball, is very impressive.

https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/615232333088694272 lol
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Post#434 » by lance-pier » Sun Jun 28, 2015 7:16 pm

Leor_77 wrote:Hey guys, Lakers fan here...Just wanted to say that I thought it was pretty damn disrespectful for Okafor to drop your guys' jersey after taking his picture with your other picks.

That aside, I think you got a potentially great player. Even though I wanted Russ, I was resigned to the fact that the Lakers were picking Jah up, so I watched a ton of videos, researched stats on him, etc. He was the expected #1 pick since High School (not sure if that started just his senior year, or if it was even before that). People have had a lot of time to criticize him, but he basically stayed as the #1 consensus guy till about 4-5 months before the draft. It's a big deal to have those kinds of expectations, and to then be able to live up to them.

He obviously had an injury in February, but before that he showed a lot more athleticism/explosiveness. You see a lot of finesse, and laying the ball in near the rim, but earlier in the year (before the injury) he was dunking all of them. I've seen him even run the floor and outrun smaller guys for transition buckets. He also can put the ball up very quickly when he's in the post. He just grabs the entry pass and goes right up and shoots over the guy guarding him. His mid-range bank shot is money. Also, what is very impressive is that you can see that he has a dominant attitude when he plays. After a lot of big plays, he will scream/yell, and just get really hyped. Also, the fact that he shot 65%, and he's not a Deandre Jordan/Tyson Chandler type who pretty much ONLY dunk the ball, is very impressive.



You realize there's a table where he drops the jersey?

For the rest i agree with you, to be honest the Wolves and Lakers made a BIG mistake passing on the Oak. Imo even Towns doesn't have the value Okafor has. 76ers got very very lucky, now time to win and stop tanking no more excuses.
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Post#435 » by 76thBearCub » Sun Jun 28, 2015 7:20 pm

Lurk Nowitzki wrote:
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Lurk Nowitzki wrote:
They mad.


They mad and they not the cream of the crop either. Pretty sad display for their respective fan bases.


Its a nice change though. There are currently 5 active post on the GB about the 76ers. If you been a fan or been around Real GM for some time, that never used to happen. We were one of the most irrelevant teams in all of sports.


I find it very interesting. Like you said, when we had Kenny Thomas, Willie Green and those kind of players, nobody had a word to say about us.

Now that we seem to have some sort of direction, however far away, people want to talk about the 76ers. Its kind of like they say, no publicity is bad publicity. People would not talk if they were not intrigued, good or bad.

A lot of fan bases I honestly believe are jealous and threatened because Hinkie has the nod from ownership to commit to this kind of hardcore rebuild.
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Post#436 » by CoreyGallagher » Sun Jun 28, 2015 7:21 pm

Jahlil Okafor himself just retweeted this.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/MilesReyRey11/status/615237691496599553[/tweet]
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Post#437 » by 76sbrazil » Sun Jun 28, 2015 7:22 pm

lance-pier wrote:
Leor_77 wrote:Hey guys, Lakers fan here...Just wanted to say that I thought it was pretty damn disrespectful for Okafor to drop your guys' jersey after taking his picture with your other picks.

That aside, I think you got a potentially great player. Even though I wanted Russ, I was resigned to the fact that the Lakers were picking Jah up, so I watched a ton of videos, researched stats on him, etc. He was the expected #1 pick since High School (not sure if that started just his senior year, or if it was even before that). People have had a lot of time to criticize him, but he basically stayed as the #1 consensus guy till about 4-5 months before the draft. It's a big deal to have those kinds of expectations, and to then be able to live up to them.

He obviously had an injury in February, but before that he showed a lot more athleticism/explosiveness. You see a lot of finesse, and laying the ball in near the rim, but earlier in the year (before the injury) he was dunking all of them. I've seen him even run the floor and outrun smaller guys for transition buckets. He also can put the ball up very quickly when he's in the post. He just grabs the entry pass and goes right up and shoots over the guy guarding him. His mid-range bank shot is money. Also, what is very impressive is that you can see that he has a dominant attitude when he plays. After a lot of big plays, he will scream/yell, and just get really hyped. Also, the fact that he shot 65%, and he's not a Deandre Jordan/Tyson Chandler type who pretty much ONLY dunk the ball, is very impressive.



You realize there's a table where he drops the jersey?

For the rest i agree with you, to be honest the Wolves and Lakers made a BIG mistake passing on the Oak. Imo even Towns doesn't have the value Okafor has. 76ers got very very lucky, now time to win and stop tanking no more excuses.


Stop tanking, that what we need.
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Post#438 » by TGW » Sun Jun 28, 2015 7:30 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/SLAMonline/status/614228963901218816[/tweet]
Some random troll wrote:Not to sound negative, but this team is owned by an arrogant cheapskate, managed by a moron and coached by an idiot. Recipe for disaster.
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Post#439 » by CoreyGallagher » Sun Jun 28, 2015 7:49 pm

TGW wrote:tweet

We're all aware that there were more preferential team's and situations for him to of gone to as we already have a few big men on our roster, I wouldn't blame him for having preferred to of gone elsewhere. However, the jersey being placed onto the table is an exemplary overreaction to everything that is 76ers which is why the uproar about it is so annoying.
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Post#440 » by crow » Sun Jun 28, 2015 7:55 pm

TGW wrote:tweet


Do you really think Jah meant it in a bad way? You guys are ridiculous.

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