Sam Hinkie steps down per Marc Stein

[drone3]

Really confusing. I think the main thing that went wrong was last year's draft. Could have had KAT,Winslow, Booker but missed on 1st. Miami and OKC picks.

With a trade for a PG like Schroeder you guys could have had a starting five of

Schroeder,Booker,Winslow,Kat,Embiid.

Draft is risky business, investors have no patience.

[LongLiveHinkie]

If you guys are truly pissed and sickened, then take action and do things that inspire change. Stop watching, stop giving them money, stop going to games. Send emails, send tweets, Facebook messages, etc etc. I mean, you guys can do whatever the hell you want with your own time and dime, but just being "I'm a Sixers fan so I'm still going to support them" is not going to bring the change you want. It'll just lead to more of this and more of this, and I don't know about you guys, but I'm just tired of it. Have been close to a championship once in almost 35 years now. Just when I thought they figured it out, they pissed it all away.

They won't get another dime or a second of my time. But even that isn't enough for me. They ruined something I was in favor of, so in my vengeful way, I want to see things ruined for them so they know how it feels. I want to see the look on Colangelo's face when they get pick #4 and miss out on the Lakers pick and end up leaving the draft of a 10 win season with Kris Dunn. Those tears would be mighty delicious.

[the_process]

Missing on Miami's pick last year really hurt. Devin Booker with this team would have added a couple of wins and a lot of hope. But that's the breaks, and Hinkie knew it, and he told all the owners about it.

On another note, I hate the fact the Sixers have so many minority owners/investors they have quarterly board meetings. I want one guy to own the team and own the responsibility of creating a champion. Minority owners always equal trouble.

I need Harris et al to sell the team immediately. One buyer, no groups.

[marcush]

The only thing seemingly to look forward to is the total 180 degree view some will have on our FO. NYsixerfan will now be a Truther, while Westbrook will be a Hater. Classic.

[Wilfried]

I'm very dissapointed Sam resigned. I would love to have seen him work this summer.
But, maybe, a lot of teams weren't interested in dealing with the Sixers anymore, because of Sam?
We all know it was part of the decision to hire Jerry Colangelo in the first part. Sam's credit with other owners was all-time low.

But he did a great job for us and I salute him.

Now it's apparantely up to Bryan Colangelo to do the building part. I'm not very hopefull, but I want to give him the time to do what needs to be done.

I hope, being 10 years older and wiser (and more experienced) will benefit him being less stubborn in his decisions and be more patient in building a winning franchise.
Let's see what he does this summer. If he throws away all our assets and signs mediocre FA's, just for us to become the team we were in the Billy-King-era, I would be very dissapointed and maybe an ex-Philly-fan.

[Ben]

I'm as disgusted as the rest of you. This is so puzzling and disappointing. Colangelo is no savior; some people forget (although I assume that it's been pointed out in this long thread) that the season after winning "Executive of the Year" for Toronto he was in the doghouse, and the team fell apart soon afterward. And that award was for a single, 47-win season that wasn't all that impressive in itself (if you factor out Chris Bosh, who was already there when Colangelo came on board). BC drafted Bargnani #1, he traded draftee Roy Hibbert plus others for Jermaine O'Neal (who left after 1 season), he drafted PJ Tucker but gave up on him almost immediately (Tucker went to play overseas for years before returning to the NBA)...

BC's moves reeked of inconstancy. Signed Jorge Garbajosa in FA... waived Garbajosa a year later. Traded good assets for Jermaine O'Neal... turned around 1 year later and traded O'Neal AND a 1st rounder-- who turned out to be Jonas Valanciunas!-- for a washed-up Marcus Banks and for Shawn Marion, who played poorly and left after... 1 year (and Marion promptly proceeded to revive his career with Dallas).

The only really good thing I can credit him with is getting back the Valanciunas pick from Miami, but he only got that as compensation for the Chris Bosh "trade" (executed to get Bosh more favorable contract terms). Nonetheless, Valanciunas was a great pick.

Now the Sixers seem to be acting with the same kind of fickleness as Colangelo displayed in Toronto. Hinkie comes into an execrable situation, starts rebuilding from scorched earth-- earth that was scorched by others' mismanagement-- and accumulates a lot of future assets. Expectations are low, so fan morale is at least decent. I've been to a bunch of games over the past couple of years, and as others know who have been there, the vibe is pretty good for such a bad team. Now the team sells Hinkie out before his project can even begin to bear fruit. And for what? for whom? A guy who coaxed Toronto into ONE winning season over a 7 year span? Seriously?

Ugh.

[tsmith]

Three years will be thrown down the drain....

[tsmith]

Somebody needs to bring banners to the next game that state the anger that we have. Something like **** the colangelos would be great

[Revived]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/wojverticalnba/status/717927494431563776[/tweet]
I wonder how much he gets paid.

Does the rising cap apply for GMs?

[Johnny Bball]

Bryan Colangelo... I'll be as blunt as possible, he's a hack. While BC is good at drafting and getting talent, the guy has zero vision. He waffles and flip flops more than a teenage girl at the mall. One minute, he's rebuilding, and then out of nowhere, he decides to go all in and win now in some desperate attempt for the 8th seed. He looked like he was patient, with a young core of DeMar and JV (both of whom we could've traded for Harden), and then he decides to have a big boner for Steve Nash and give Landry Fields insane money to prevent the Knicks from signing him, only for Nash to go elsewhere anyways. Have a solid backcourt in DeMar and Lowry and have no more touches to go around to other players since we need to feed JV for the good of his development? Trade for Rudy goddamn Gay. Desperate to keep Bosh? Trading a 1st for Jermaine O'Neal, flip O'Neal for Marion a few weeks later, and then let Marion go and sign Turkoglu to a ridiculous deal. That's not even getting into drafting Air Bargnani 1st overall, and then basically giving him preferential treatment and firing Smitch who, as bad a coach as he was, was only fired because he wouldn't go easy on poor Bargnani.

He has no clue how pieces on team fit and no long term vision and just has a corporate stench above him. The amount of times you'll hear him say "organic growth" will make you punt puppies in anger. Everyone says he drafted and traded for most of the Raps core. I guarantee you, however, that we wouldn't be the team we are today if not for Masai, who actually has vision and knows how to build a TEAM and not a collection of talent like BC.

Except he's not good at you know drafting. His drafts when he was with the raps were uneven.

He selected Bargs over LMA. Ross over Drummond. Traded Hibbert for Oneal. The only two picks he hit on really are Derozen and Jonas. Drafted TJ Tucker over Paul Millasp. Traded Goran Dragic for Giorgos Printezis

Two picks over the course of six seasons is not a great drafter. Hinkie has hit on pretty all his first round picks with the exception of Embiid which could still work out.

He doesn't have an Andrea Bargs in his resume. He also doesn't have the record of god awful trades and signings either. Hedo, Kleiza, Peja (trade), Oneal (trade), Landry, Jorge Garbajosa, Fred Jones, and he tried to trade for Steve Nash and move Lowry.

but he's not good at drafting. He's not good at evaluating talent. He took the advice of everyone else around him when it came to the draft (which is fine, but it's not like it's his strength). And then he gets the credit. The only time I'm sure he didn't take everyone else's advice in the draft and went with his own opinion was in drafting the Italian Andrea bargnani first overall.

The tank is dead. Long live the treadmill.

[freshie2]

Smallwood is a dope...shows his lack of understanding in his article today...there are no young/starving bloggers out there that can take his place?

[bryanwithawhy]

Smallwood is a dope...shows his lack of understanding in his article today...there are no young/starving bloggers out there that can take his place?

Derek Bodner is the only Sixers' related reporter worth following.

[Jojothewhale]

Another very strong vote for Bodner as the go-to Sixers beat.

[kriss73]

Wow!
Timing of the ownerships of Philadelphian franchises (nba and nfl) is...cluch.

[Lord_Zedd]

I'm as disgusted as the rest of you. This is so puzzling and disappointing. Colangelo is no savior; some people forget (although I assume that it's been pointed out in this long thread) that the season after winning "Executive of the Year" for Toronto he was in the doghouse, and the team fell apart soon afterward. And that award was for a single, 47-win season that wasn't all that impressive in itself (if you factor out Chris Bosh, who was already there when Colangelo came on board). BC drafted Bargnani #1, he traded draftee Roy Hibbert plus others for Jermaine O'Neal (who left after 1 season), he drafted PJ Tucker but gave up on him almost immediately (Tucker went to play overseas for years before returning to the NBA)...

BC's moves reeked of inconstancy. Signed Jorge Garbajosa in FA... waived Garbajosa a year later. Traded good assets for Jermaine O'Neal... turned around 1 year later and traded O'Neal AND a 1st rounder-- who turned out to be Jonas Valanciunas!-- for a washed-up Marcus Banks and for Shawn Marion, who played poorly and left after... 1 year (and Marion promptly proceeded to revive his career with Dallas).

The only really good thing I can credit him with is getting back the Valanciunas pick from Miami, but he only got that as compensation for the Chris Bosh "trade" (executed to get Bosh more favorable contract terms). Nonetheless, Valanciunas was a great pick.

Now the Sixers seem to be acting with the same kind of fickleness as Colangelo displayed in Toronto. Hinkie comes into an execrable situation, starts rebuilding from scorched earth-- earth that was scorched by others' mismanagement-- and accumulates a lot of future assets. Expectations are low, so fan morale is at least decent. I've been to a bunch of games over the past couple of years, and as others know who have been there, the vibe is pretty good for such a bad team. Now the team sells Hinkie out before his project can even begin to bear fruit. And for what? for whom? A guy who coaxed Toronto into ONE winning season over a 7 year span? Seriously?

Ugh.

Don't forget BC's move attempting to block the Knicks for signing Steve Nash - by giving Landry Fields that $18 million contract

Also Raptors ended up trading that Miami pick for James Johnson. We used our own pick to draft Val

Nobody in MLSE had the balls to hold Colon Jello accountable and he was good buddies with Tannenbaum who didn't want to let go of BC. Until Leiweke came in and made some changes

But yeah for the most part Colon Jello is a company man who will be well liked within the board members

[Chamberlainship]

If you guys are truly pissed and sickened, then take action and do things that inspire change. Stop watching, stop giving them money, stop going to games. Send emails, send tweets, Facebook messages, etc etc. I mean, you guys can do whatever the hell you want with your own time and dime, but just being "I'm a Sixers fan so I'm still going to support them" is not going to bring the change you want. It'll just lead to more of this and more of this, and I don't know about you guys, but I'm just tired of it. Have been close to a championship once in almost 35 years now. Just when I thought they figured it out, they pissed it all away.

They won't get another dime or a second of my time. But even that isn't enough for me. They ruined something I was in favor of, so in my vengeful way, I want to see things ruined for them so they know how it feels. I want to see the look on Colangelo's face when they get pick #4 and miss out on the Lakers pick and end up leaving the draft of a 10 win season with Kris Dunn. Those tears would be mighty delicious.

Been there, done that. The reality is there is very little you can do to influence a sports team's actions. Boycott? No one is going to notice or care. This is the sixers we're talking about. You just have to decide for yourself whether the team and Harris are worth following.

But, is Hinkie worth all this devotion? Yes, we have picks, but he was a disaster at actually turning assets into players and team-building. The assets are a means to an end (winning) and we were never going to reach that end with him in charge.

[Mahorn at the 4]

I assume Brown will be a casualty here as well with this move, so...Tom Thibodeau is hopefully the next hire. The man can coach...and stand up to BC.

[marcush]

I assume Brown will be a casualty here as well with this move, so...Tom Thibodeau is hopefully the next hire. The man can coach...and stand up to BC.

Wow, love the optimism that we get Thibs but clearly we are getting Dantoni.

[sam-hinkie]

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