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Re: So what's the pivot? (Beal, Lavine, or smaller moves)? - Post Harden ideas and Rumors 

Post#421 » by sixers hoops » Sat Jan 23, 2021 10:23 pm

elchengue20 wrote:Can't believe people are expecting Shake to be the main shot creator on a potential championship team. Won't happen.

He can be a Lou Williams or Dennis Schoreder, he won't ever be Harden or Lebron James or Steph Curry. That's just a pipe dream.

He has been a pleasant surprise and a steal because we got a good 6th man outta nowhere on a cheap deal.But that's it.


Who said Shake can be the main shot creator on a championship team? I’ve never heard this before, so I scrolled back to figure out who you are referring to, but couldn’t find anything.
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Post#422 » by youngcrev » Sat Jan 23, 2021 10:32 pm

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Kind of a shame the Sixers dumped him for garbage back in the day.


Wasn't that the OKC pick that got us Maxey?


I believe we got Maxey with a pick from the Fultz trade.


I think both are true. That pick bounced around the league quite a bit.
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Post#423 » by Arsenal » Sat Jan 23, 2021 11:09 pm

youngcrev wrote:
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Wasn't that the OKC pick that got us Maxey?


I believe we got Maxey with a pick from the Fultz trade.


I think both are true. That pick bounced around the league quite a bit.


It's the same pick.

1) OKC trades us the pick for Jerami Grant.
2) BCB trades the pick to ORL for Picnic Baskets.
3) ORL trades the pick back to us for Fultz.

As for Jerami Grant, he's NOT what we need. If we need anything its a 3-level backcourt primary perimeter initiator. Grant is more of a Tobias type.
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Post#424 » by Arsenal » Sat Jan 23, 2021 11:10 pm

Bjelica is on the block. Don't want to break the bank for him, but if he comes cheap (e.g. Scott + 2nd) I'm game. Even though he screwed us before lol.
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Post#425 » by PhillyFan11 » Sat Jan 23, 2021 11:28 pm

Would Otto Porter and Denzel Valentine be enough of an upgrade over Green and Scott to warrant exploring a trade with the Bulls?

Personally just don’t like what Green brings to the court, but also can’t say that I’ve watched Porter to know if he’d annoy me just as much as Green.

The “small” trade options trying to upgrade Green are pretty limited
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Post#426 » by Mik317 » Sat Jan 23, 2021 11:54 pm

Embiid is probably the actual block to any Simmons trade ironically. Has come out on multiple occasions lately basically saying as much.
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Post#427 » by kriss73 » Sun Jan 24, 2021 8:22 am

Tobias is playing too many miuntes. I know Scott is out, but it's something to monitor in case of a minor trade.
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Post#428 » by 76ciology » Sun Jan 24, 2021 10:10 am

Is Shake Milton the best player wizards is going to get for Beal?
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Post#429 » by Kobblehead » Sun Jan 24, 2021 5:29 pm

If not the best player, definitely the best asset when you account for dollar amount. I wonder if Miami dangles Tyler Herro.
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Post#430 » by Embiid-MVP » Sun Jan 24, 2021 6:40 pm

"The proposed three-way trade would also involve Sixers guards Tyrese Maxey, Matisse Thybulle, and Danny Green and Wizards forward Davis Bertans heading to Toronto. The Wizards would acquire Simmons as well an unprotected 2022 first-rounder from Philadelphia, a 2024 lottery-protected first-round selection from the Raptors, and swap rights with the Sixers on 2024 and 2026 first-rounders."

6ers get Beal and Lowry . That would be pretty insane for this year

Still would hurt to give up on Simmons and Maxey. I was only open to moving Simmons for a top 5-7 player.
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Post#431 » by TTP » Sun Jan 24, 2021 7:35 pm

Embiid-MVP wrote:"The proposed three-way trade would also involve Sixers guards Tyrese Maxey, Matisse Thybulle, and Danny Green and Wizards forward Davis Bertans heading to Toronto. The Wizards would acquire Simmons as well an unprotected 2022 first-rounder from Philadelphia, a 2024 lottery-protected first-round selection from the Raptors, and swap rights with the Sixers on 2024 and 2026 first-rounders."

6ers get Beal and Lowry . That would be pretty insane for this year

Still would hurt to give up on Simmons and Maxey. I was only open to moving Simmons for a top 5-7 player.


What are you quoting?
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Post#432 » by youngcrev » Sun Jan 24, 2021 7:49 pm

TTP wrote:
Embiid-MVP wrote:"The proposed three-way trade would also involve Sixers guards Tyrese Maxey, Matisse Thybulle, and Danny Green and Wizards forward Davis Bertans heading to Toronto. The Wizards would acquire Simmons as well an unprotected 2022 first-rounder from Philadelphia, a 2024 lottery-protected first-round selection from the Raptors, and swap rights with the Sixers on 2024 and 2026 first-rounders."

6ers get Beal and Lowry . That would be pretty insane for this year

Still would hurt to give up on Simmons and Maxey. I was only open to moving Simmons for a top 5-7 player.


What are you quoting?


From what I can find, an "article" in the Inquisitr that uses a fan trade idea from bleacher report as it's source material.
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Post#433 » by Wilfried » Sun Jan 24, 2021 7:56 pm

Who's gonna play SF? Howard?
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Post#434 » by eyeatoma » Sun Jan 24, 2021 8:04 pm

youngcrev wrote:
TTP wrote:
Embiid-MVP wrote:"The proposed three-way trade would also involve Sixers guards Tyrese Maxey, Matisse Thybulle, and Danny Green and Wizards forward Davis Bertans heading to Toronto. The Wizards would acquire Simmons as well an unprotected 2022 first-rounder from Philadelphia, a 2024 lottery-protected first-round selection from the Raptors, and swap rights with the Sixers on 2024 and 2026 first-rounders."

6ers get Beal and Lowry . That would be pretty insane for this year

Still would hurt to give up on Simmons and Maxey. I was only open to moving Simmons for a top 5-7 player.


What are you quoting?


From what I can find, an "article" in the Inquisitr that uses a fan trade idea from bleacher report as it's source material.
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Post#435 » by elchengue20 » Sun Jan 24, 2021 8:13 pm

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elchengue20 wrote:Can't believe people are expecting Shake to be the main shot creator on a potential championship team. Won't happen.

He can be a Lou Williams or Dennis Schoreder, he won't ever be Harden or Lebron James or Steph Curry. That's just a pipe dream.

He has been a pleasant surprise and a steal because we got a good 6th man outta nowhere on a cheap deal.But that's it.


Who said Shake can be the main shot creator on a championship team? I’ve never heard this before, so I scrolled back to figure out who you are referring to, but couldn’t find anything.


Many people in this forum is saying Shake is our main perimeter threat, the only "3 level scorer", etc.

They talk about how he has to be a starter and we need to let him handle our offense consistenly. Even a poster sayed hes better than Donovan Mitchell lol.

And at the same time they have somewhat realistic expectations about making a deep Playoff run. Im just saying i would be shocked if we are a legit contender with Shake fricking Milton as our star perimeter player.They are expecting and asking way too much from him.
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Post#436 » by youngcrev » Sun Jan 24, 2021 8:53 pm

eyeatoma wrote:
youngcrev wrote:
TTP wrote:
What are you quoting?


From what I can find, an "article" in the Inquisitr that uses a fan trade idea from bleacher report as it's source material.
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Lol, you really want it?

https://www.inquisitr.com/6457684/bradley-beal-sixers-ben-simmons-wizards-trade-idea/amp/

Which references this:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2927685-desperation-trade-targets-to-create-new-nba-contenders.amp.html

Might as well reference the fantasy trade thread
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Post#437 » by Wilfried » Sun Jan 24, 2021 9:11 pm

elchengue20 wrote:
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elchengue20 wrote:Can't believe people are expecting Shake to be the main shot creator on a potential championship team. Won't happen.

He can be a Lou Williams or Dennis Schoreder, he won't ever be Harden or Lebron James or Steph Curry. That's just a pipe dream.

He has been a pleasant surprise and a steal because we got a good 6th man outta nowhere on a cheap deal.But that's it.


Who said Shake can be the main shot creator on a championship team? I’ve never heard this before, so I scrolled back to figure out who you are referring to, but couldn’t find anything.


Many people in this forum is saying Shake is our main perimeter threat, the only "3 level scorer", etc.

They talk about how he has to be a starter and we need to let him handle our offense consistenly. Even a poster sayed hes better than Donovan Mitchell lol.


That was probably Shaq
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Post#438 » by Embiid-MVP » Sun Jan 24, 2021 11:37 pm

eyeatoma wrote:
youngcrev wrote:
TTP wrote:
What are you quoting?


From what I can find, an "article" in the Inquisitr that uses a fan trade idea from bleacher report as it's source material.
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It's not serious. Was just a thought.
There's tons of them if you just Google Bradley beal and go to news

https://www.inquisitr.com/6457684/bradley-beal-sixers-ben-simmons-wizards-trade-idea/amp/
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Post#439 » by sixers hoops » Sun Jan 24, 2021 11:50 pm

elchengue20 wrote:
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elchengue20 wrote:Can't believe people are expecting Shake to be the main shot creator on a potential championship team. Won't happen.

He can be a Lou Williams or Dennis Schoreder, he won't ever be Harden or Lebron James or Steph Curry. That's just a pipe dream.

He has been a pleasant surprise and a steal because we got a good 6th man outta nowhere on a cheap deal.But that's it.


Who said Shake can be the main shot creator on a championship team? I’ve never heard this before, so I scrolled back to figure out who you are referring to, but couldn’t find anything.


Many people in this forum is saying Shake is our main perimeter threat, the only "3 level scorer", etc.

They talk about how he has to be a starter and we need to let him handle our offense consistenly. Even a poster sayed hes better than Donovan Mitchell lol.

And at the same time they have somewhat realistic expectations about making a deep Playoff run. Im just saying i would be shocked if we are a legit contender with Shake fricking Milton as our star perimeter player.They are expecting and asking way too much from him.


A lot of people say Shake should be our primary shot creator because he is prob our best option currently on the roster. It seems like your twisting a lot of posts together to create a narrative to argue with.
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Post#440 » by Embiid-MVP » Mon Jan 25, 2021 12:24 am

sixers hoops wrote:
elchengue20 wrote:
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Who said Shake can be the main shot creator on a championship team? I’ve never heard this before, so I scrolled back to figure out who you are referring to, but couldn’t find anything.


Many people in this forum is saying Shake is our main perimeter threat, the only "3 level scorer", etc.

They talk about how he has to be a starter and we need to let him handle our offense consistenly. Even a poster sayed hes better than Donovan Mitchell lol.

And at the same time they have somewhat realistic expectations about making a deep Playoff run. Im just saying i would be shocked if we are a legit contender with Shake fricking Milton as our star perimeter player.They are expecting and asking way too much from him.


A lot of people say Shake should be our primary shot creator because he is prob our best option currently on the roster. It seems like your twisting a lot of posts together to create a narrative to argue with.

That's exactly what's happening
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