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Re: Around The League: 2021-2022 Season 2.0 

Post#421 » by mjkvol » Mon Jun 20, 2022 1:49 pm

stormi wrote:The difference in resume between Steph and Lebron.

2x MVP
3x FMVP
4x Finals Appearances
10x All-Star
10x All-NBA
6x All-Def
17K PTS
6,300 Rebs
4,650 AST

AKA a gap the size of an extra hall of famer.

This will never ever be a discussion.


Yet with all of that, he had to tour the league looking for stars to form superteams in his desperate effort to be like Mike.
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Re: Around The League: 2021-2022 Season 2.0 

Post#422 » by stormi » Mon Jun 20, 2022 1:51 pm

mjkvol wrote:
stormi wrote:The difference in resume between Steph and Lebron.

2x MVP
3x FMVP
4x Finals Appearances
10x All-Star
10x All-NBA
6x All-Def
17K PTS
6,300 Rebs
4,650 AST

AKA a gap the size of an extra hall of famer.

This will never ever be a discussion.


Yet with all of that, he had to tour the league looking for stars to form superteams in his desperate effort to be like Mike.


Again this argument sucks because I'm not sure what any sane individual thinks he could have accomplished staying in Cleveland. He was there for nearly a decade and essentially turned a landfill roster into a 70 win team with the best player he ever played with being Mo Williams.

If he had Klay and Dray or Russ and Harden or Pippen and Rodman he would have stayed and stampeded the league for 10 championships.
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Re: Around The League: 2021-2022 Season 2.0 

Post#423 » by Kobblehead » Mon Jun 20, 2022 1:52 pm

I wonder if LeBron and Boozer got along, if they would have a won a title in Cleveland together and then LeBron fulfills his destiny as as franchise legend like other greats and doesn't bolt and become a mercenary.
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Post#424 » by Negrodamus » Mon Jun 20, 2022 1:53 pm

Steph should let Bob Myers give his HOF speech since he didn’t subject Curry to 8 years of talentless trash.
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Re: Around The League: 2021-2022 Season 2.0 

Post#425 » by Kobblehead » Mon Jun 20, 2022 1:55 pm

stormi wrote:If you've ever lost a FMVP to a teammate you cannot be fanfic'd into the GOAT convo. It just is what it is.

Some of your favs lost 3 in 4 and one embarrassingly to a roleplayer because a guy "held" Lebron to 35/13/9.

Goat talk.

NBA writers are just idiots with an agenda to keep Steph and the "shoot happy" Warriors from taking off and changing basketball.

Otherwise, they would have given the Finals MVP to Shawn Marion or something for holding LeBron to 17 ppg and getting outscored by Jason Terry lol.
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Re: Around The League: 2021-2022 Season 2.0 

Post#426 » by stormi » Mon Jun 20, 2022 1:57 pm

Hell forget peak Lebron.

He's 37!!!!! And just came off of a season averaging 30 on 62% TS with a 30% assist percentage.

He's still an elite franchise player at an age where Mike, after taking 3 years off, came back completely cooked.

There just will never be another talent like Lebron James.
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Post#427 » by Kobblehead » Mon Jun 20, 2022 1:59 pm

There's already a better LeBron. Giannis. Who already won a title for his own team. And who is just as unskilled yet he's not afraid of the line. He faced down countdown chants at the free throw line and still kept attacking fearlessly.
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Post#428 » by stormi » Mon Jun 20, 2022 2:00 pm

Yannis at his very best, is like 75% peak Bron. He just won't ever compare though because one can drive and kick, and the other is one of the greatest floor generals the game has ever seen.

Bron's skillset is just too diverse to compare him to anybody.
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Post#429 » by Kobblehead » Mon Jun 20, 2022 2:02 pm

No seriously. What if Giannis wins another ring in the next year or two. Then he's already on a trajectory that will eclipse LeBron.
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Re: Around The League: 2021-2022 Season 2.0 

Post#430 » by mjkvol » Mon Jun 20, 2022 2:03 pm

stormi wrote:
mjkvol wrote:
stormi wrote:The difference in resume between Steph and Lebron.

2x MVP
3x FMVP
4x Finals Appearances
10x All-Star
10x All-NBA
6x All-Def
17K PTS
6,300 Rebs
4,650 AST

AKA a gap the size of an extra hall of famer.

This will never ever be a discussion.


Yet with all of that, he had to tour the league looking for stars to form superteams in his desperate effort to be like Mike.


Again this argument sucks because I'm not sure what any sane individual thinks he could have accomplished staying in Cleveland. He was there for nearly a decade and essentially turned a landfill roster into a 70 win team with the best player he ever played with being Mo Williams.

If he had Klay and Dray or Russ and Harden or Pippen and Rodman he would have stayed and stampeded the league for 10 championships.


Okay, but why did he leave Miami? Why leave his "home", Cleveland, for a second time?

Miami is as good an organization as there is in the league, and he was essentially the GM in Cleveland. But James is only about James, and he'll probably do the same to the Lakers.

Funny that Durant gets ripped unmercifully while James wrote the damn book on How To Be A Mercenary In Three Easy Steps.
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Re: Around The League: 2021-2022 Season 2.0 

Post#431 » by stormi » Mon Jun 20, 2022 2:10 pm

mjkvol wrote:
stormi wrote:
mjkvol wrote:
Yet with all of that, he had to tour the league looking for stars to form superteams in his desperate effort to be like Mike.


Again this argument sucks because I'm not sure what any sane individual thinks he could have accomplished staying in Cleveland. He was there for nearly a decade and essentially turned a landfill roster into a 70 win team with the best player he ever played with being Mo Williams.

If he had Klay and Dray or Russ and Harden or Pippen and Rodman he would have stayed and stampeded the league for 10 championships.


Okay, but why did he leave Miami? Why leave his "home", Cleveland, for a second time?

Miami is as good an organization as there is in the league, and he was essentially the GM in Cleveland. But James is only about James, and he'll probably do the same to the Lakers.

Funny that Durant gets ripped unmercifully while James wrote the damn book on How To Be A Mercenary In Three Easy Steps.


Miami was cooked dude if you remember those 2014 finals. They just got obliterated by the Spurs because none of their old legs (besides Lebron's) could not hold up anymore after four years of just high intensity Heat Culture go-go-go run-run-run.

Lebron at that point was in the middle of his career long peak and just so much better than anyone else on that roster that it made no sense for him to stay. Wade was finished and then Bosh eventually got medically removed from the game.

And then after that it was a collection of cooked vets like Chalmers, Lewis, Battier, Haslem, Birdman.

Another unfortunate and unique position that Lebron found himself in.

Also going back to Cleveland was just cool lol. And then he went and won the most important ring in NBA history.
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Re: Around The League: 2021-2022 Season 2.0 

Post#432 » by stormi » Mon Jun 20, 2022 2:18 pm

Read on Twitter


Kyring knows what needs to happen...

He saw y'all getting a bit too excited about the man he sonned across a 7 game series.
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Re: Around The League: 2021-2022 Season 2.0 

Post#433 » by Kobblehead » Mon Jun 20, 2022 2:21 pm

KD is definitely going to bail now, too. What a trainwreck that Nets thing turned out to be. Almost as bad as the Provarov years.
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Post#434 » by Kobblehead » Mon Jun 20, 2022 2:23 pm

Maybe the Suns can use a sign and trade with Ayton plus picks and filler and get Durant from the Nets.

Booker, Durant, and Paul would likely win the title next year.
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Re: Around The League: 2021-2022 Season 2.0 

Post#435 » by mjkvol » Mon Jun 20, 2022 2:59 pm

stormi wrote:
mjkvol wrote:
stormi wrote:
Again this argument sucks because I'm not sure what any sane individual thinks he could have accomplished staying in Cleveland. He was there for nearly a decade and essentially turned a landfill roster into a 70 win team with the best player he ever played with being Mo Williams.

If he had Klay and Dray or Russ and Harden or Pippen and Rodman he would have stayed and stampeded the league for 10 championships.


Okay, but why did he leave Miami? Why leave his "home", Cleveland, for a second time?

Miami is as good an organization as there is in the league, and he was essentially the GM in Cleveland. But James is only about James, and he'll probably do the same to the Lakers.

Funny that Durant gets ripped unmercifully while James wrote the damn book on How To Be A Mercenary In Three Easy Steps.


Miami was cooked dude if you remember those 2014 finals. They just got obliterated by the Spurs because none of their old legs (besides Lebron's) could not hold up anymore after four years of just high intensity Heat Culture go-go-go run-run-run.

Lebron at that point was in the middle of his career long peak and just so much better than anyone else on that roster that it made no sense for him to stay. Wade was finished and then Bosh eventually got medically removed from the game.

And then after that it was a collection of cooked vets like Chalmers, Lewis, Battier, Haslem, Birdman.

Another unfortunate and unique position that Lebron found himself in.

Also going back to Cleveland was just cool lol. And then he went and won the most important ring in NBA history.


So important that he f***ked those fans for a second time after leaving his best bud Wade to clean up the wreckage in Miami.

C'mon, man! He's so great, so transcendent, that he can't stay and build towards another title after the "most important" (lolol) championship ever in his "home town", no less.

Incredible talent, but an empty, classless, narcissistic POS who doesn't give a rat's ass who he has to screw over or step on to achieve his precious "legacy"

Hell, he even stole Jordan's number in his obsession.
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Re: Around The League: 2021-2022 Season 2.0 

Post#436 » by FireMorey » Mon Jun 20, 2022 3:54 pm

Still think Kyrie and Nets gets done, because pissing Durant off will be too costly for the Nets FO.
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Post#437 » by Negrodamus » Mon Jun 20, 2022 4:16 pm

I couldn’t imagine being angry if we somehow plucked Durant from the Nets this off-season, won at least one championship, and he bails to go to another team at the end of his contract. Just feels weird that fans are entitled to a player.
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Re: Around The League: 2021-2022 Season 2.0 

Post#438 » by 76thBearCub » Mon Jun 20, 2022 5:53 pm

I think I could get behind a Harris for KD situation.
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Re: Around The League: 2021-2022 Season 2.0 

Post#439 » by Sam Hinkie » Mon Jun 20, 2022 6:48 pm

I love Giannis but he's not even close to Lebron. Lebron combined top 5 BBIQ of all time with top 5 athleticism of all time. He's the best player the world has ever seen and gets **** on because of one series and having to bounce from team to team because he was drafted into a **** situation.
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Re: Around The League: 2021-2022 Season 2.0 

Post#440 » by ProcessDoctor » Mon Jun 20, 2022 8:07 pm

I’m very curious to see where Kyrie ends up. It’s just funny to me how the Knicks and Lakers are mentioned for literally everyone.

I won’t be shocked if Riley tries to get him for dirt cheap. Clippers and Nuggets ought to be considered dark horses as well.

Also, a lot of people owe Harden an apology for trying to leave that situation. What a dumpster fire. Structure and leadership might be the worst in the league.
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