76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2

[Eyeamok]

Not sure who you're referring to or if that's a random imaginary person. But Maxey can learn to be a closer without playing 41 mins at altitude fresh off an injury/illness.

I remember Morey brushing off the Maxey minutes thing with the "he's young he'll be fine" too. No. Tired players get hurt easier and shoot worse. Also no one gets an infinite amount of minutes in their legs. This isn't 2K fatigue off.

Not saying you are wrong. But if Maxey is tired he needs to speak up and say "I'm tired I need a break!" To me it's part of being a leader and understanding your body. I am sure Maxey has people around him that won't let him run himself into the ground. And if he does not he needs to get some.

You've played sports? Guys want to be the superhero.

And if Maxey did have the self awareness and discipline (he's 23, so he doesn't) to say he was tired? "Come on man, toughen up, we need you out there." That's the G rated version of what they would say to him. Someone else needs to tell Nurse no.

This is not the YMCA, the park or the local work team. This is the NBA it's a business first and then a sport. Maxey has an agent that is his mouthpiece. An agent that is going to make a nice payday this upcoming off-season when Maxey signs his next contract. So if he is not speaking up for Maxey talking to Maxey and finding out how he is really feeling, then Maxey is not doing a good job relating to his agent. And his agent is not doing a good job knowing what is best for Maxey.

[mjkvol]

I hope the entire braintrust and talent can come to an agreement to sell at the deadline and load up for the offseason. I don't expect it but that would be the best plan for the remainder of Embiid's career with the 76ers in terms of championship equity.

Assets for Harris, Melton, Oubre. Get a second rounder for Springer and see if you can get anything for Reed (although I don't really think he can be traded anywhere but the Jazz?)

100% agree. The FO focus should completely be on 2024 and beyond at this point.

[the_process]

Not saying you are wrong. But if Maxey is tired he needs to speak up and say "I'm tired I need a break!" To me it's part of being a leader and understanding your body. I am sure Maxey has people around him that won't let him run himself into the ground. And if he does not he needs to get some.

You've played sports? Guys want to be the superhero.

And if Maxey did have the self awareness and discipline (he's 23, so he doesn't) to say he was tired? "Come on man, toughen up, we need you out there." That's the G rated version of what they would say to him. Someone else needs to tell Nurse no.

This is not the YMCA, the park or the local work team. This is the NBA it's a business first and then a sport. Maxey has an agent that is his mouthpiece. An agent that is going to make a nice payday this upcoming off-season when Maxey signs his next contract. So if he is not speaking up for Maxey talking to Maxey and finding out how he is really feeling, then Maxey is not doing a good job relating to his agent. And his agent is not doing a good job knowing what is best for Maxey.

Is his agent on the bench or in the locker room? What are we talking about here?

[Slacktard]

It's definitely not time to punt on this year. You fix the roster and get him back for playoffs.

In regards to sham's tweet... Last postseason the internet doctors stated that anytime there's a sprained meniscus that means there's at least micro tears to it or fraud to the ligament.

If this doctor is right and he has had a tear the whole time. Again him being the highest usage player in the league needs to change...

Watch on YouTube

I think the thing to keep in mind is Embiid like 6 years ago had a partial meniscus removal on that knee. The long-term ramifications are higher degree of arthritis in the knee, A weaker cartilage, etc...

Looking at some studies it seems like repairs generally offer less long-term complications than removals especially in younger active people. The recovery from a repair is significantly longer.

Wonder why Embiid previously was a removal option and not a repair?

[Eyeamok]

You've played sports? Guys want to be the superhero.

And if Maxey did have the self awareness and discipline (he's 23, so he doesn't) to say he was tired? "Come on man, toughen up, we need you out there." That's the G rated version of what they would say to him. Someone else needs to tell Nurse no.

This is not the YMCA, the park or the local work team. This is the NBA it's a business first and then a sport. Maxey has an agent that is his mouthpiece. An agent that is going to make a nice payday this upcoming off-season when Maxey signs his next contract. So if he is not speaking up for Maxey talking to Maxey and finding out how he is really feeling, then Maxey is not doing a good job relating to his agent. And his agent is not doing a good job knowing what is best for Maxey.

Is his agent on the bench or in the locker room? What are we talking about here?

The last time I was in the locker room I did not see Rich Paul in there and you know what you are absolutely right. I have not seen Paul on the bench either. What the hell was I thinking about.

[the_process]

This is not the YMCA, the park or the local work team. This is the NBA it's a business first and then a sport. Maxey has an agent that is his mouthpiece. An agent that is going to make a nice payday this upcoming off-season when Maxey signs his next contract. So if he is not speaking up for Maxey talking to Maxey and finding out how he is really feeling, then Maxey is not doing a good job relating to his agent. And his agent is not doing a good job knowing what is best for Maxey.

Is his agent on the bench or in the locker room? What are we talking about here?

The last time I was in the locker room I did not see Rich Paul in there and you know what you are absolutely right. I have not seen Paul on the bench either. What the hell was I thinking about.

We agree now, good.

[zaz102]

Silver Lining Questions:
Will the time without Embiid give Maxey reps needed to be the #2 guy for a contender?

Will the Sixers now focus on a more long term approach as opposed to using assets on an older/expiring player that could improve their odds this year?

[Negrodamus]

What good players on kind of bad multi-year money are out there to trade for? I can only think of Wiggins, guys that in theory won't cost FRPs to obtain, just expirings and seconds.

Hawks have a few, imo. Hunter, Bogdan, obviously Murray, Capela...

[M2J]

Congrats again to Maxey. For him to go out there and get 51pts the night of his all star selection and the team really needing him to lift them out of a 4 game losing streak was huge.

It was also a beautiful first half. That step back on Dunn, and that in and out dribble to the left on George finishing around Kessler were just amazing highlights.

I feel like his confidence is gonna take off from this game and that all star selection.

Until Nurse runs him into the ground again. 41 minutes last night. In January in Utah.

Morey deserves more blame. They have no one else to go to. They rely heavily on both those guys

[Negrodamus]

Springer didn't do that much offensively yesterday but these are the type of games that shoild give him minutes on the rotation.Guy created a stupid amount of transition baskets

Watch on YouTube

Missed both games, but man he has it in him to be such an elite role player. Maybe these Embiid-less games will allow him to get comfortable and form some consistency in his game.

[zaz102]

Congrats again to Maxey. For him to go out there and get 51pts the night of his all star selection and the team really needing him to lift them out of a 4 game losing streak was huge.

It was also a beautiful first half. That step back on Dunn, and that in and out dribble to the left on George finishing around Kessler were just amazing highlights.

I feel like his confidence is gonna take off from this game and that all star selection.

Until Nurse runs him into the ground again. 41 minutes last night. In January in Utah.

Morey deserves more blame. They have no one else to go to. They rely heavily on both those guys

They've also had like half the team out for every game for like the last month.

[M2J]

It's definitely not time to punt on this year. You fix the roster and get him back for playoffs.

In regards to sham's tweet... Last postseason the internet doctors stated that anytime there's a sprained meniscus that means there's at least micro tears to it or fraud to the ligament.

If this doctor is right and he has had a tear the whole time. Again him being the highest usage player in the league needs to change...

Watch on YouTube

I think the thing to keep in mind is Embiid like 6 years ago had a partial meniscus removal on that knee. The long-term ramifications are higher degree of arthritis in the knee, A weaker cartilage, etc...

Looking at some studies it seems like repairs generally offer less long-term complications than removals especially in younger active people. The recovery from a repair is significantly longer.

Wonder why Embiid previously was a removal option and not a repair?

You know these teams are always okay with sitting young players for an entire year, thinking it will save their careers. The team had no expectations in 2017 either

[Negrodamus]

[Lowe] Anderson could be a player to watch ahead of the trade deadline. His salary is the easiest way for Minnesota to bundle enough money and bring someone of value back. He's on an expiring contract, and Minnesota could have trouble re-signing Anderson given its looming financial crunch.

Probably would be interesting if Embiid is healthy.

[M2J]

Until Nurse runs him into the ground again. 41 minutes last night. In January in Utah.

Morey deserves more blame. They have no one else to go to. They rely heavily on both those guys

They've also had like half the team out for every game for like the last month.

Maxey has led the league in Miles per game by far and minutes per game from the start. Due to roster construction, and Joel in usage all season

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

Spencer Dinwiddie is available. I would offer Brooklyn something for him and bring him in to pair with Maxey. Send Oubre to the bench. Dinwiddie has looked as disinterested as a player can look over the last few weeks in Brooklyn. His value is pretty low and the asking price shouldn't be unreasonable.

[zaz102]

Morey deserves more blame. They have no one else to go to. They rely heavily on both those guys

They've also had like half the team out for every game for like the last month.

Maxey has led the league in Miles per game by far and minutes per game from the start. Due to roster construction, and Joel in usage all season

Yeah, I think it's a combo of all three. Really need to get Maxey some relief.

[FireMorey]

Morey will get ripped for it, but he should stand pat. This season isn't the year and save all your assets for the summer. I'd actually consider selling off pieces of teams would give you something of value for Harris or Batum.

[brannigan73]

I hope the entire braintrust and talent can come to an agreement to sell at the deadline and load up for the offseason. I don't expect it but that would be the best plan for the remainder of Embiid's career with the 76ers in terms of championship equity.

Assets for Harris, Melton, Oubre. Get a second rounder for Springer and see if you can get anything for Reed (although I don't really think he can be traded anywhere but the Jazz?)

100% agree. The FO focus should completely be on 2024 and beyond at this point.

I dont agree at all. Harris has little value except as an expiring and bird rights and Melton has very little value since he is battling an injury. Oubre is getting you nothing either since you wont be getting his bird rights. Also, Harris has a massive contract so if you want max cap space for the offseaon you have to trade Harris for expiring contracts or picks and your not getting picks for Harris lol and you not likely getting expirings. Embiid will be playing again this season once the meniscus is healed. Not playing him again this season is not any kind of insurance for him being healthy going forward. In case you dont understand this but his knees don't seem capable of supporting his massive frame for long. I dont understand what you guys still dont understand about the max cap space this off season being 50 million dollars and to get that it most likely means renouncing all free agents besides Maxey. I still feel like the way to go is to add a couple of quality starter at the trade deadline that fit now and going forward. Maybe they could do something amazing this offseason but its not going to invovled getting meaningful assets for Harris, Melton, and Oubre!

[Embiid P]

Morey deserves more blame. They have no one else to go to. They rely heavily on both those guys

They've also had like half the team out for every game for like the last month.

Maxey has led the league in Miles per game by far and minutes per game from the start. Due to roster construction, and Joel in usage all season

This was obviously to be expected the moment he traded Harden. If you want to blame him for trading for Harden in the first place that's fair but why continue to beat that dead horse?

I don't see a lot that would move the needle on the trade market right now that we wouldn't have to overpay for.

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

I'm fine with selling at the deadline, but only veteran type players that we have. If we're going to go down, lets do it with seeing what the young guys can do. Don't trade Springer until you can at least retain some value for him. The more he gets to play, the more he's going to do on the floor. I wouldn't trade Paul Reed either...He's a decent big man that we drafted and he's still a young player. If the idea is to get a little younger and athletic then we should probably hold onto to Reed, Springer, and even KJ at this point. We also need to see what Smith and Council can do with some minutes. I'd say at this point teams are even calling about Pat Bev. Again if we're selling at the dealine then Bev, Morris, Batum, Covington...Those are the guys you move. You don't move what little young, youthful talent you have.