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[the_process]

Well Irving is only 25 and Hayward is 27. They have a pretty great future. That's two allstars coming into their prime, and Tatum could turn into another one.

They don't have anyone with the talent of Embiid OR Simmons though so if we can be healthy we will be better than them at some point.

They need a big man. Hell, in retrospect they should have traded for Noel. Smart for Noel would have been good for both teams.

Kyrie is less than 50% to resign IMO. And Ainge should have accounted for that risk in the price he paid. But he definitely didn't. We may not care, but Kyrie did have a list, and Boston wasn't on it. So after two years Boston could very well end up with: 29 year old Hayward and 33 year old Horford and two blah guys winding down their rookie deals and a 9 pick from Sacramento. After all the assets Danny's been hoarding for years.

Well they did say Boston was on his list of teams cause of some connection with Kyrie's family

Least thats the report I heard, and they said they had no doubt they could resign him.

Either way it doesn't matter, long term it might work out, but this season they definitely took a hit cause they just kissed the #1 seed in the playoffs goodbye.

Minnesota, New York, San Antonio, and Miami. And of course Ainge will say he can re-sign him. I'm not saying they won't re-sign him, either, rather that it's far from a lock and that should have been accounted for. It's a win now trade with two giant obstacles standing in their way.

[ivysixer2000]

Kyrie is less than 50% to resign IMO. And Ainge should have accounted for that risk in the price he paid. But he definitely didn't. We may not care, but Kyrie did have a list, and Boston wasn't on it. So after two years Boston could very well end up with: 29 year old Hayward and 33 year old Horford and two blah guys winding down their rookie deals and a 9 pick from Sacramento. After all the assets Danny's been hoarding for years.

Well they did say Boston was on his list of teams cause of some connection with Kyrie's family

Least thats the report I heard, and they said they had no doubt they could resign him.

Either way it doesn't matter, long term it might work out, but this season they definitely took a hit cause they just kissed the #1 seed in the playoffs goodbye.

Minnesota, New York, San Antonio, and Miami. And of course Ainge will say he can re-sign him. I'm not saying they won't re-sign him, either, rather that it's far from a lock and that should have been accounted for. It's a win now trade with two giant obstacles standing in their way.

Just saying what I heard tonight, don't know how much truth there is to it.

It will be fun to see them not play any defense, with no rebounding or shot blocking. Hilarious really.....they really took a step back in the present, maybe it will work out for them in the future but not this year.

I do expect for Kyrie to be in the running for scoring champ though, question is what else can he do.

[aHealthy3]

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[LongLiveHinkie]

You need 3 superstars to win titles these days. That may have jumped to 4 with the Warriors. The Celtics basically blew a large portion of their assets and still only have one superstar now with Kyrie. If you considered Thomas a superstar(I didn't) then they swapped one for one, and didn't add more to it. Horford is a mediocre player, which I said last year and now everyone saw how overrated he was this past season. Hayward is a borderline all-star at best. Not a perennial star. So basically they still only have one superstar, gave away their best draft pick asset, have their cap room tied up in two players who aren't stars, and lost their two best defensive players. Kyrie is an amazing offensive talent, who may end up being a Carmelo Anthony type, who scores a lot, but when he's your best player, the teams don't win much. Because he's ball dominant, isn't a great passer, and plays no defense.

Oh, and they have a coach on the hot seat.

[Negrodamus]

Exceptionally confusing trade. Cavs are the clear cut winner, which almost never happens for them, and Ainge shat the bed.

[Winejk]

The Celtics may have gotten the best player in the trade, but they got a whole lot worse on defense and the only acceptable big man on the roster is Horford. They may be trying small ball, but no way can they match up with GSW or CLE. In a playoff series, I might even take the Sixers over the Celtics because Embiid, Simmons and Dario should have a field day.

Besides the obvious lack of defense and rebounding, I'm curious about the Celtic offense. Kyrie and Tatum are ball stopper/isolation players. How that fits in wonder boy Brad Stevens' offense is a mystery to me. Then you have inefficient chucker Marcus Smart playing a bigger role this season. Jaylen Brown is a wondrous athlete, but has very little in ball skills. So Hayward and Horford are the only two that kind of fit Stevens' playing style. Stevens' may figure out a way to make it work, but on paper it looks dubious.

[shawn_hemp]

Sixers All time roster in 2k18



Assuming they couldn't get the rights to use a lot of guys. Feel like Wilt's rating is a bit low as well

[mithrandir17]

Sixers All time roster in 2k18



Assuming they couldn't get the rights to use a lot of guys. Feel like Wilt's rating is a bit low as well

Charles Barkley was already ok with joining Ernie, Kenny and Shaq but he still doesn't want to be a player in a video game? Also I read that Wilt's rating with the Warriors is 98 while with the sixers it is 93 and Dr J is 97 with the Nets and 94 for the sixers.

[LongLiveHinkie]

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[CoreyGallagher]

Hope that he's fine and the trade happens, but for hilarity sake, idk.

Erm...

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[CoreyGallagher]

Honestly, I still think that they should accept the trade even if IT is still injured. The Brooklyn pick is by far the best asset they're getting, Crowder is the second, and a healthy or injured IT is third regardless..

[LongLiveHinkie]

Their #1 priority is convincing Lebron to stay though and the #1 pick doesn't really do that, as attractive is that is. Lebron would likely want win now guys.

[Sixerscan]

Honestly, I still think that they should accept the trade even if IT is still injured. The Brooklyn pick is by far the best asset they're getting, Crowder is the second, and a healthy or injured IT is third regardless..

Might just try to get a little something extra. Can't imagine the trade would actually fall apart. Then again who knows the way this off season is going.

[LongLiveHinkie]

I don't see how this trade can proceed if they are worried about his hip. Thomas is a major piece, he's not just a throw-in. He could be there long-term if Lebron leaves, and if he stays they have a quality scoring guard. But hip injuries are very serious, especially for guys that rely on quickness. If he loses a step, he's toast.

Unless they're bluffing, if they are truly concerned about the hip, I think the deals falls apart unless the Celtics give them major compensation in addition, like the Lakers pick, Tatum, or Brown, which is unlikely.

[Winejk]

Love it. Ainge is screwed either way. If CLE goes through with trade, then BOS is going to have to cough something more of value up. Hope it hurts.

If CLE doesn't go through with trade, the whole league will know IT is damaged goods and that puts Ainge in a bind. It'll be harder to trade IT and Crowder is going to be pissed. He already felt unappreciated in Boston and it will just be worse.

[CoreyGallagher]

Lol, Cavs want more!

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[Unbreakable99]

Lol, Cavs want more!

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Boston better give up that LA/SAC pick or no deal. The Cavs should definitely play hard ball and not hesitate to go back on this deal if Ainge says no.

[LongLiveHinkie]

Even when Ainge completes a trade he can't complete a trade.

[shawn_hemp]

Holding out for Tatum?

Boston gets Cedi Osman?

[Winejk]

The Boston board is pretty hilarious. They are claiming that CLE has been acting in bad faith and planned this whole thing with IT's physical from the beginning so CLE can extract more from Boston. They clearly can't see that Ainge is trying to foist damaged goods on CLE.

Some of the fans want to play tough with CLE and offer less now. How does that make sense? IT is damaged goods and they want to offer less. Clearly a case of buyer's remorse.

Some BOS fans believe BOS has all the leverage. Never mind if the deal is rescinded, BOS is stuck with an injured IT and a mad Crowder.