spikeslovechild wrote:76ciology wrote:Kobblehead wrote:I would do that deal, pretty easily.
Neither Harris or Love can defend, so you might as well take the better shooter and better rebounder and that's Kevin.
Garland is a tiny shotcreater that we can use in the short term and, like you said, flip down the line.
Between Garland, Maxey and our eventual signing of Austin Rivers, we'd have a small handful of guys that can get buckets in the halfcourt in their sleep (albeit while being a bunch of defensive zeroes in the process, though).
What I like about Love over Harris is Love can punish SFs compared to Tobi.
If opponents has to put their PFs on Love then Love can step out, you take away the PF who can help their C protect the rim.
It’s like having Al but the difference is Love is a way better shooter and much better in attacking close outs. Love can also is reliable to get you 20-30pts where as Al is living in his natural habitat of 12-15ppg.
The contracts are almost the same. But Tobi is a year younger. You see the Bobcats (Cavs on the same tier) wouldnt mind overpaying Hayward to stay relevant.
Let’s be honest, Love is only good for like 2 more seasons. And this is where Garland for Milton trade comes in to compensate for it. And we’ll never know, Milton may even end up being a better player than Garland.
Love is actually 4 years older and coming off serious injuries. No thanks. He maybe better in the nearterm though that is far from a sure thing and his contract goes for another 3 years. I'd rather have Harris. Also Harris has had his struggles shooting lately but part of the reason why we traded Horford was to increase the speed of the team and make us less of a halfcourt offense. We all know one of Simmons strengths is pushing the ball up the floor before the defense has a chance to get set to do that you can't have Embiid and Love. Or Embiid and Horford. Part of moving Tobie to PF and presumably starting Green as SF was to get faster.
Now if we traded Simmons for Harden then I'd be fine with it. We'd basically be all in on a two year window and Harden is a guy who likes to break down a defense and is a better fit next to Love.
Understood and can’t argue with that.
If you can see, i always involve getting Garland in the trade for Im also not that confident for a Tobi and Love straight up. I like to add Milton and they have to add Garland in exchange.
Personally, I’m not as down on Tobi as most people on the board. So I’m ok to just keeping him.
Most of my Tobi trades are just a mean to an end. And the end is an eventual move in the same magnitude of a Harden for Ben trade. In this case, I’m finding ways to be able to do it without involving Ben. Its difficult but it maybe possible.
