Joel: unchained.

[Rakkasan]

Embiid can't even read or pass out of a double team. His turnovers are through the roof. He is an awful playmaker for his usage. Can't co-exist in an offense that isn't just ISO Embiid ball. Ben has shown that, Jimmy has shown that. Good luck winning with Embiid. My guess is picking up basketball at 15 years old doesn't help when developing crucial areas of team play, a skill that can't be taught.

Jokic is neck and neck with Westbrook in turnovers per game, so whats your point?

[DHM]

Embiid can't even read or pass out of a double team. His turnovers are through the roof. He is an awful playmaker for his usage. Can't co-exist in an offense that isn't just ISO Embiid ball. Ben has shown that, Jimmy has shown that. Good luck winning with Embiid. My guess is picking up basketball at 15 years old doesn't help when developing crucial areas of team play, a skill that can't be taught.

Jokic is neck and neck with Westbrook in turnovers per game, so whats your point?

Lol

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[76ciology]

think Jojo being a rollman is an issue.

1.) he’s slow so defense has an easy time getting charge off his rolls, and it can lead him into foul trouble
2.) he’s not athletic, he’s a below the rim guy
3.) my heart’s gonna stop everytime he rolls because of injury concerns

Zone or man to man, Its easy for Harden to draw 2 defenders then passing to Jojo, who’s almost always wide open for a mid range jumper. First few games, he’s frequently surprised by being too open. Now he’s more settled in but he isn’t that good in this situationsyet.

[eyeatoma]

think Jojo being a rollman is an issue.

1.) he’s slow so defense has an easy time getting charge off his rolls, and it can lead him into foul trouble
2.) he’s not athletic, he’s a below the rim guy
3.) my heart’s gonna stop everytime he rolls because of injury concerns

Zone or man to man, Its easy for Harden to draw 2 defenders then passing to Jojo, who’s almost always wide open for a mid range jumper. First few games, he’s frequently surprised by being too open. Now he’s more settled in but he isn’t that good in this situationsyet.

He'll figure it out and will be elite at it next year after working with Drew. Plenty of rolls he completed well with Harden today though. I thought it has improved.

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[76ciology]

think Jojo being a rollman is an issue.

1.) he’s slow so defense has an easy time getting charge off his rolls, and it can lead him into foul trouble
2.) he’s not athletic, he’s a below the rim guy
3.) my heart’s gonna stop everytime he rolls because of injury concerns

Zone or man to man, Its easy for Harden to draw 2 defenders then passing to Jojo, who’s almost always wide open for a mid range jumper. First few games, he’s frequently surprised by being too open. Now he’s more settled in but he isn’t that good in this situationsyet.

He'll figure it out and will be elite at it next year after working with Drew. Plenty of rolls he completed well with Harden today though. I thought it has improved.

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Yup it has improved but Nuggets defense is designed to take charges. So embiid got like 2 or 3 offensive fouls or TOs from rolling, if my memory serves me right.

Third quarter, the nuggts defense let him take mid range jumpers and the first 6 mins of the third he missed a lot of these jumpers.

[Bum Adebayo]

Usually it's better to judge a team after a full preseason and some games played afterwards. Our championship should arrive next season, otherwise this has been a failure. But this season Embiid and Harden lacked time to gel.

[mjkvol]

Third quarter, the nuggts defense let him take mid range jumpers and the first 6 mins of the third he missed a lot of these jumpers.

One of the biggest reasons we lost this game. If Embiid is hitting that foul line/elbow jumper he usually owns, the result is different and he has one of those monster scoring games.

[phillynative]

think Jojo being a rollman is an issue.

1.) he’s slow so defense has an easy time getting charge off his rolls, and it can lead him into foul trouble
2.) he’s not athletic, he’s a below the rim guy
3.) my heart’s gonna stop everytime he rolls because of injury concerns

Zone or man to man, Its easy for Harden to draw 2 defenders then passing to Jojo, who’s almost always wide open for a mid range jumper. First few games, he’s frequently surprised by being too open. Now he’s more settled in but he isn’t that good in this situationsyet.

Hes not slow or unathletic. I dont know where your getting this narrative from. He is 7'2 280 with numerous lower extremities injuries in the past. Hes not going to be jumping for oops everytime he sets a pick like Capella.

[Ferry Avenue]

think Jojo being a rollman is an issue.

1.) he’s slow so defense has an easy time getting charge off his rolls, and it can lead him into foul trouble
2.) he’s not athletic, he’s a below the rim guy
3.) my heart’s gonna stop everytime he rolls because of injury concerns

Zone or man to man, Its easy for Harden to draw 2 defenders then passing to Jojo, who’s almost always wide open for a mid range jumper. First few games, he’s frequently surprised by being too open. Now he’s more settled in but he isn’t that good in this situationsyet.

Right now Embiid should be getting together with Harden and working on a stop and pop eight to ten footer off of that bounce pass after the PnR. Embiid needs that in his arsenal, as opposed to being a predictable runaway train through the lane every time. Let that defender sit back there and wait to draw a charge while Embiid stops and elevates from eight to ten feet and sinks a jump shot right over his head. That'll bring his ass out next time, and then you have the option of going around him or drawing the blocking foul more successfully.

[76ciology]

think Jojo being a rollman is an issue.

1.) he’s slow so defense has an easy time getting charge off his rolls, and it can lead him into foul trouble
2.) he’s not athletic, he’s a below the rim guy
3.) my heart’s gonna stop everytime he rolls because of injury concerns

Zone or man to man, Its easy for Harden to draw 2 defenders then passing to Jojo, who’s almost always wide open for a mid range jumper. First few games, he’s frequently surprised by being too open. Now he’s more settled in but he isn’t that good in this situationsyet.

Hes not slow or unathletic. I dont know where your getting this narrative from. He is 7'2 280 with numerous lower extremities injuries in the past. Hes not going to be jumping for oops everytime he sets a pick like Capella.

Maybe. But if you think of elite roll mans.. the only guys I can think of are the Amare/Blake and the DeAndre/Capela prototype. Biid is more like Celtics KG, post prime TD or Dirk.

What i find to be “money” right now is he gets a lot of open looks at the elbow/ft line area off the PnR, which defense wants to give.

Thats what I see from now, it may change.

[76ciology]

Third quarter, the nuggts defense let him take mid range jumpers and the first 6 mins of the third he missed a lot of these jumpers.

One of the biggest reasons we lost this game. If Embiid is hitting that foul line/elbow jumper he usually owns, the result is different and he has one of those monster scoring games.

That and our bigs staying at the paint on defense leaving DMC, Jokic and Hyland ridiculous open looks on 3s really hurt us.

Im actually OK if Embiid will just take jumpers off the 2 man game with Harden. Kind of those Rondo/Kidd/Stockton pick and pop with KG/Dirk/Malone.

[kuclas]

Embiid missed a gimmie 5 footer with Jokic guarding him with 1 min left in a 112-110 game. Than Jokic gets a running floating to make it 114-110.

Just always seems that way. Embiid missing important buckets at the end.

Than sixers get the ball back and Maxey misses a shot. Than niang missed a shot.

Just the way the ball bounces. Those were good shots. Honestly. I’d rather be the 5 seed and start on the road. We are a much bette road team than home team this season.

[Ferry Avenue]

Embiid missed a gimmie 5 footer with Jokic guarding him with 1 min left in a 112-110 game. Than Jokic gets a running floating to make it 114-110.

Just always seems that way. Embiid missing important buckets at the end.

Than sixers get the ball back and Maxey misses a shot. Than niang missed a shot.

Just the way the ball bounces. Those were good shots. Honestly. I’d rather be the 5 seed and start on the road. We are a much bette road team than home team this season.

There was a huge turning point late in that game in terms of momentum, where Embiid missed what could've been a dunk, and then Denver hit a three on the ensuing possession. Just a complete turn in terms of momentum. The crowd would've come alive with that dunk, but instead it was a miss followed by a very demoralizing three. Jokic's insane basket was on the next possession, and then the Sixers and the crowd were done at that point emotionally speaking.

[Ferry Avenue]

Embiid missed a gimmie 5 footer with Jokic guarding him with 1 min left in a 112-110 game. Than Jokic gets a running floating to make it 114-110.

Just always seems that way. Embiid missing important buckets at the end.

Than sixers get the ball back and Maxey misses a shot. Than niang missed a shot.

Just the way the ball bounces. Those were good shots. Honestly. I’d rather be the 5 seed and start on the road. We are a much bette road team than home team this season.

What this team is missing is somebody who plays with authority at those times. The team seems to be filled with guys who have ability but who play with a subtle hesitancy in their games. Harris is the obvious one, but even Embiid and Harden don't seem to play in the clutch with a sense of "I'm going to win this game myself" that the great ones exhibit.

It's like a team that struggles to have anyone spearhead it effectively, and when nobody is spearheading a team, it's subject to getting beaten by other teams that are driven to win. This team is on the wrong side of the emotion/intensity battle all too often.

They need their typical contributions from Embiid and Harden, along with an unexpectedly great effort from someone else (Maxey, Harris) to win the game on a purely physical level so that they don't get beaten in a game decided on the more emotional level.

[rzzzzz]

It’s fine to scrutinize mistakes and misses, but come one, our starters out scored their starters while our bench got crushed by their bench. Blame Morey for not doing better, while I blame Doc for leaning on the old geezers while not giving our young/athletic guys any kind of a chance to really contribute.

[Bum Adebayo]

Embiid missed a gimmie 5 footer with Jokic guarding him with 1 min left in a 112-110 game. Than Jokic gets a running floating to make it 114-110.

Just always seems that way. Embiid missing important buckets at the end.

Than sixers get the ball back and Maxey misses a shot. Than niang missed a shot.

Just the way the ball bounces. Those were good shots. Honestly. I’d rather be the 5 seed and start on the road. We are a much bette road team than home team this season.

Not a surprise, Embiid has been a choker for all his career, that's why we needed more firepower to compensate, we banked on Harden being that, we will see.

[Ferry Avenue]

It’s fine to scrutinize mistakes and misses, but come one, our starters out scored their starters while our bench got crushed by their bench. Blame Morey for not doing better, while I blame Doc for leaning on the old geezers while not giving our young/athletic guys any kind of a chance to really contribute.

Right, but it took an uncharacteristic game by Niang for that to occur. He was 2 for 12 shooting and 2 for 10 from three. If he has merely a slightly below average game as opposed to a terribly below average one, they win.

If games hinge on bench play only to that degree (i.e., a single player makes the difference against stellar bench play by the other team), then bench play can't be very meaningful.

On top of that, teams play starters and bench players together throughout games, and so when a team's "bench" is actually playing is debatable. Certainly if teams were forced to remove all of their starters simultaneously and replace them with five bench players, benches would then become incredibly important.

[phillynative]

think Jojo being a rollman is an issue.

1.) he’s slow so defense has an easy time getting charge off his rolls, and it can lead him into foul trouble
2.) he’s not athletic, he’s a below the rim guy
3.) my heart’s gonna stop everytime he rolls because of injury concerns

Zone or man to man, Its easy for Harden to draw 2 defenders then passing to Jojo, who’s almost always wide open for a mid range jumper. First few games, he’s frequently surprised by being too open. Now he’s more settled in but he isn’t that good in this situationsyet.

Right now Embiid should be getting together with Harden and working on a stop and pop eight to ten footer off of that bounce pass after the PnR. Embiid needs that in his arsenal, as opposed to being a predictable runaway train through the lane every time. Let that defender sit back there and wait to draw a charge while Embiid stops and elevates from eight to ten feet and sinks a jump shot right over his head. That'll bring his ass out next time, and then you have the option of going around him or drawing the blocking foul more successfully.

Thats would be a good shot for him. A jump stop right into a babyhook. I always thought that should be more a part of his arsenal. You see these bigs not as offensively talented as Embiid go to it frequently and is apart of why they are more effecient. Ex. Jokic

[Ferry Avenue]

think Jojo being a rollman is an issue.

1.) he’s slow so defense has an easy time getting charge off his rolls, and it can lead him into foul trouble
2.) he’s not athletic, he’s a below the rim guy
3.) my heart’s gonna stop everytime he rolls because of injury concerns

Zone or man to man, Its easy for Harden to draw 2 defenders then passing to Jojo, who’s almost always wide open for a mid range jumper. First few games, he’s frequently surprised by being too open. Now he’s more settled in but he isn’t that good in this situationsyet.

Right now Embiid should be getting together with Harden and working on a stop and pop eight to ten footer off of that bounce pass after the PnR. Embiid needs that in his arsenal, as opposed to being a predictable runaway train through the lane every time. Let that defender sit back there and wait to draw a charge while Embiid stops and elevates from eight to ten feet and sinks a jump shot right over his head. That'll bring his ass out next time, and then you have the option of going around him or drawing the blocking foul more successfully.

Thats would be a good shot for him. A jump stop right into a babyhook. I always thought that should be more a part of his arsenal. You see these bigs not as offensively talented as Embiid go to it frequently and is apart of why they are more effecient. Ex. Jokic

He just can't be so predictable in a scenario that's used as often as that one is (the Harden PnR). Otherwise teams can anticipate what he's doing and simply sit back there and draw a charge.

[phillynative]

Embiid missed a gimmie 5 footer with Jokic guarding him with 1 min left in a 112-110 game. Than Jokic gets a running floating to make it 114-110.

Just always seems that way. Embiid missing important buckets at the end.

Than sixers get the ball back and Maxey misses a shot. Than niang missed a shot.

Just the way the ball bounces. Those were good shots. Honestly. I’d rather be the 5 seed and start on the road. We are a much bette road team than home team this season.

Not a surprise, Embiid has been a choker for all his career, that's why we needed more firepower to compensate, we banked on Harden being that, we will see.

Poor thing. Ben must of really hurt you.