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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4 

Post#441 » by Iverson Armband » Wed Jul 19, 2023 12:18 am

eyeatoma wrote:
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eyeatoma wrote:https://sports.yahoo.com/report-kings-offered-tyrese-haliburton-221245897.html

Ok, so you choose to believe Ky Carlin or Jake Fischer over Morey. As if reporters don’t get played by GMs/agents/execs all the time for leverage, etc. C’mon man. The only thing we know for a FACT is that Haliburton was traded for a player way better than Ben Simmons. That’s all the real proof you need, but if you want to continue with the highly technical “everybody lies” theory, you got it.



The Kings had Fox and Hali on the table. From my understanding Morey wanted both, and not just one of the players. But Hali was on the table, you can choose to believe what you want. Kings were right on not doing that deal, but the Kings did offer Hali. Again, i think hindsight is 20/20 you obviously take the Hali deal, knowing the player he is now, but I don't blame Morey for taking Harden, he was a sure thing. Just another one of those what if's for a franchise that's main legacy is, what if.

I’m not debating that’s what was being reported. Your “understanding” of both Fox and Hali being on the table comes from not much more than gossip though. How many times have we heard both players and GMs say less than half of what’s reported is BS?

Look, if you still want to believe those reports that’s certainly your prerogative. I’m just saying after the fact, what actually happened jives more with what Morey is now saying than what those reports were saying at the time. Ultimately, we’ll never really know.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4 

Post#442 » by mjkvol » Wed Jul 19, 2023 12:31 am

GoSixersBro wrote:Morey shouldn't be worried about another star. We have our two stars. It's time to beef up the rest of the line-up.

I don't think our FO has the eye for talent nor creativity to build a successful squad. We need to be identifying the Aaron Gordon types, not necessarily guys with his game, but players who have fell off the radar maybe because they were asked to play in bigger roles, but would succeed as a #3 or #4. A lot of title teams go out and snag these difference makers. They aren't always the sexiest names but they get the machine to work and put good teams over the top making them great ones.


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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4 

Post#443 » by M2J » Wed Jul 19, 2023 12:41 am

GoSixersBro wrote:Morey shouldn't be worried about another star. We have our two stars. It's time to beef up the rest of the line-up.

I don't think our FO has the eye for talent nor creativity to build a successful squad. We need to be identifying the Aaron Gordon types, not necessarily guys with his game, but players who have fell off the radar maybe because they were asked to play in bigger roles, but would succeed as a #3 or #4. A lot of title teams go out and snag these difference makers. They aren't always the sexiest names but they get the machine to work and put good teams over the top making them great ones.


Agreed.

I think the focus needs to be sign Tobias for cheaper. He's older, no one's giving him too much and I don't see another contender paying him. Develop Maxey..... Add depth of quality.... Profit
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4 

Post#444 » by ProcessDoctor » Wed Jul 19, 2023 12:54 am

Morey is gonna land us PG. Book it.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4 

Post#445 » by BoogieTime » Wed Jul 19, 2023 1:21 am

eyeatoma wrote:
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Oh boy, sorry if I hurt your feelings bro, you seem to come off pretty condescending though. I by no means believe I'm a 100% right, but just because Morey said so, is some pretty weak evidence.

All that went right over your head huh.

Your evidence is “everyone lies” and Keith Pompey said so
I never even mentioned Pompey.

Jake Fischer who has a lot more credibility mentioned it though.

https://sports.yahoo.com/report-kings-offered-tyrese-haliburton-221245897.html


I believe at the same time there were reports the Kings weren’t going to part with either Fox or Hali (coming from the Kings).

While Morey could obviously be lying to save face, as a Kings fan it would be tough to assume we offered Hali for Ben. It should be obvious by now, given the Kings rise and the fact he was in the top ten mvp rankings (nba.com / bleacher report etc), Sabonis is a hell of a player, that, what’s more, symmetrically fits with the teams other best player in Fox. I’m struggling to see any fit with Ben and Fox, ever, and Fox wasn’t movable last year as he had down trade value per talent
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4 

Post#446 » by NYSixersFan » Wed Jul 19, 2023 1:34 am

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NYSixersFan wrote:Morey tried to trade Simmons for Harden in 2021. The idea that he wanted Haliburton before "settling" for Harden is laughable.

Considering Haliburton would have been a rookie and a virtual unknown at that point in 2021, I'm not sure you make much of a point.


You missed the point...he tried to trade for Harden in 21...He always wanted Harden. He didn't trade for Harden because Haliburton wasn't available to him.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4 

Post#447 » by Iverson Armband » Wed Jul 19, 2023 1:43 am

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NYSixersFan wrote:Morey tried to trade Simmons for Harden in 2021. The idea that he wanted Haliburton before "settling" for Harden is laughable.

Considering Haliburton would have been a rookie and a virtual unknown at that point in 2021, I'm not sure you make much of a point.


You missed the point...he tried to trade for Harden in 21...He always wanted Harden. He didn't trade for Harden because Haliburton wasn't available to him.

Just because he tried to trade Ben for Harden in 2021 doesn’t necessarily mean he wanted Ben for Harden over Haliburton in 2022….
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4 

Post#448 » by rocketsfan100 » Wed Jul 19, 2023 1:48 am

A 27 year old role player like Mann with no upside becoming a sticking point in a trade for a 22 pts 10.7 assist player is wild
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4 

Post#449 » by NYSixersFan » Wed Jul 19, 2023 2:00 am

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NYSixersFan wrote:
Iverson Armband wrote:Considering Haliburton would have been a rookie and a virtual unknown at that point in 2021, I'm not sure you make much of a point.


You missed the point...he tried to trade for Harden in 21...He always wanted Harden. He didn't trade for Harden because Haliburton wasn't available to him.

Just because he tried to trade Ben for Harden in 2021 doesn’t necessarily mean he wanted Ben for Harden over Haliburton in 2022….


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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4 

Post#450 » by Iverson Armband » Wed Jul 19, 2023 2:01 am

NYSixersFan wrote:
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NYSixersFan wrote:
You missed the point...he tried to trade for Harden in 21...He always wanted Harden. He didn't trade for Harden because Haliburton wasn't available to him.

Just because he tried to trade Ben for Harden in 2021 doesn’t necessarily mean he wanted Ben for Harden over Haliburton in 2022….


The fraud has you fooled.

Ah, now it’s making some sense.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4 

Post#451 » by NYSixersFan » Wed Jul 19, 2023 2:05 am

Morey sits on Twitter all day and knows people have been critical of him for not doing the Haliburton deal. That's why he said what he said.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4 

Post#452 » by ProcessDoctor » Wed Jul 19, 2023 2:14 am

FWIW, I doubt any executive in Sacramento would come out and deny it, so Morey’s in a safe spot if he is lying.
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Post#453 » by 76ciology » Wed Jul 19, 2023 2:15 am

rocketsfan100 wrote:A 27 year old role player like Mann with no upside becoming a sticking point in a trade for a 22 pts 10.7 assist player is wild


I think Morey’s asking for Paul George. George’s probably likely to opt out in the offseason for a longer contract.
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Post#454 » by Negrodamus » Wed Jul 19, 2023 2:16 am

rocketsfan100 wrote:Kyle nuebeck and Elliot shore made an interesting point. Embiid might be not happy that harden is not coming back and they are genuinely tight…


I'd say blow it up if that's the reason Embiid demands a trade (which he hasn't). If Embiid is sad his friend is leaving because 1) they couldn't put it together for 48 minutes in the final two games of the Celtics series and 2) Morey didn't immediately bend to Harden's will before free agency even started, then we really don't have a chance at winning it all.

Tell your friend to stop being a sad boi and come back for one more year. You are his friend after all.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4 

Post#455 » by Jailblazers7 » Wed Jul 19, 2023 2:58 am

rocketsfan100 wrote:A 27 year old role player like Mann with no upside becoming a sticking point in a trade for a 22 pts 10.7 assist player is wild


It’s because he’s only a 12 pt 8 assist player when the chips are down
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Post#456 » by 76ciology » Wed Jul 19, 2023 3:45 am

Feels like 2019-2021 warriors season when KD left and they have to do a 2 season breather.

Question is.. did Nick Nurse signed up for that?
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4 

Post#457 » by eyeatoma » Wed Jul 19, 2023 3:56 am

NYSixersFan wrote:Morey sits on Twitter all day and knows people have been critical of him for not doing the Haliburton deal. That's why he said what he said.


This 100%
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4 

Post#458 » by Decipher » Wed Jul 19, 2023 3:57 am

76ciology wrote:Feels like 2019-2021 warriors season when KD left and they have to do a 2 season breather.

Question is.. did Nick Nurse signed up for that?


Warriors not only lost KD but Klay was out & Steph got injured so Sixers are In better shape
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4 

Post#459 » by 76ciology » Wed Jul 19, 2023 4:29 am

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76ciology wrote:Feels like 2019-2021 warriors season when KD left and they have to do a 2 season breather.

Question is.. did Nick Nurse signed up for that?


Warriors not only lost KD but Klay was out & Steph got injured so Sixers are In better shape


We can easily sit Embiid. And thats probably why we had so much centers on our team
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4 

Post#460 » by LeonJordanJr24 » Wed Jul 19, 2023 4:52 am

Options for star wing on and off ball not too ball dominant.

1. Lavine
2. Jaylen Brown
3. Paul George
4. DeRozan


Morey whatcha gonna do brotha :D

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