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76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1

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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#441 » by Wilfried » Thu Nov 9, 2023 11:24 am

Embiid P wrote:I know that Harden has only played two games thus far but is there any chance the Clippers decide to blow it up after this season assuming things don't pan out?

I fear they might decide to start their inevitable rebuild early thus making the 2028 first and 2029 swap option less valuable assuming they'll be contenders again by then. For that reason, it might be best for Morey to part with them sooner rather than later.


I don't care. If Clippers blow up, we can probably sign PG13 next summer

And not all rebuilds work perfectly. There's always injuries/bad drafts/... involved in a record
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Post#442 » by zaz102 » Thu Nov 9, 2023 12:10 pm

Negrodamus wrote:If the options are trading for either an older, highly skilled player on an expiring contract who can serve as a secondary ball handler for relative little assets or spending a lot of assets on an overpriced 3&D guy on an already bloated longterm deal… I’ll take the first option.
Springer and two firsts for Caruso as proposed on the trade board?
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Post#443 » by blargh » Thu Nov 9, 2023 12:13 pm

stormi wrote:
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stormi wrote:
MPJ shot over 50% from the corner last season and an absurd 62.1% on contested catch & shoot jumpers in the playoffs on volume.

It’s absurd because contested catch and shoot jumpers in the playoffs is way too small of a sample size to mean anything. Meaanwhile, best shooters from the corner is usually not a list of the best contested shotmakers in the game. That’s usually a list of the PJ Tuckers and Duncan Robinsons.

The best contested shotmaker in the game is Steph Curry, and it’s not particularly close.

https://www.nba.com/stats/players/shots-closest-defender?CF=FG3A*GE*0.1&PerMode=PerGame&Season=2022-23&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&dir=D&sort=FG3_PCT

MPJ isn’t even in the conversation. Tobias isn’t either, and that’s fine: they are both well suited as the third best player on a contending team.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#444 » by Stanford » Thu Nov 9, 2023 12:29 pm

zaz102 wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:If the options are trading for either an older, highly skilled player on an expiring contract who can serve as a secondary ball handler for relative little assets or spending a lot of assets on an overpriced 3&D guy on an already bloated longterm deal… I’ll take the first option.
Springer and two firsts for Caruso as proposed on the trade board?


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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#445 » by Murray_17 » Thu Nov 9, 2023 12:36 pm

I love Carusso, but i just don't think he's worth two firsts and an all-defense prospect...

However i see some teams doing a trade like that, just because he's gonna be in HIGH demand from contenders if the Bulls blow it up, i think he's gonna get more offers than even Lavine
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#446 » by Negrodamus » Thu Nov 9, 2023 12:37 pm

zaz102 wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:If the options are trading for either an older, highly skilled player on an expiring contract who can serve as a secondary ball handler for relative little assets or spending a lot of assets on an overpriced 3&D guy on an already bloated longterm deal… I’ll take the first option.
Springer and two firsts for Caruso as proposed on the trade board?


I don’t get the Caruso hype. So I wouldn’t give Springer for him much less two firsts.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#447 » by Kobblehead » Thu Nov 9, 2023 12:43 pm

Siakam can't shoot and has become a bad defender. Take him off the list.

Hayward has no athleticism left and can't defend. Take him off the list.

Derozan can't shoot and won't defend. Take him off the list.

Lavine is already on a megadeal. Doesn't make sense to have such a high percentage of your cap in the backcourt. Take him off the list.

The most logical archetype to target would be an athletic F with defense and shooting. Guys like Jerami Grant, O.G. Anunoby, Patrick Williams, P.J. Washington.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#448 » by Murray_17 » Thu Nov 9, 2023 12:46 pm

Negrodamus wrote:
I don’t get the Caruso hype. So I wouldn’t give Springer for him much less two firsts.



He's one of the better wing defenders on the league while also being impactful on offense, i would give a first for him tbh. I don't know if an unprotected one tho
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Post#449 » by Kobblehead » Thu Nov 9, 2023 12:58 pm

Caruso is just a lateral move from Melton, though. Not worth the cost of acquisition because we have someone in house that provides the same output.
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Post#450 » by elchengue20 » Thu Nov 9, 2023 1:02 pm

Springer and a ligthtly proyected 1st is the most i could give up for Caruso. Its a fair deal.

Hes Jrue Holiday lite. Hes valuable for a contender, just playing in a garbage team.

Springer could be nice but hes years away from really contribuiting at the highest level.
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Post#451 » by 76ciology » Thu Nov 9, 2023 1:03 pm

Surplus of MID players and you’re giving up two firsts for Caruso?
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Post#452 » by Ferry Avenue » Thu Nov 9, 2023 1:12 pm

Boy if this team could somehow get Marcus Smart that would be tremendous.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#453 » by ProcessDoctor » Thu Nov 9, 2023 1:13 pm

It’s nice to get the season off to a good start. Usually we start off .500 or worse and have to play catch-up. Long season ahead but this will be helpful when seeding matters more down the stretch.
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Post#454 » by Negrodamus » Thu Nov 9, 2023 1:26 pm

I still think Ingram becomes available at some point this year. They have Trey Murphy and Herb Jones who are decidedly role players that work with Zion, McCollum and Valanciunas. Ingram is high usage. Prob not a take for us, but fulfills what Morey is looking for.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#455 » by Covi_Marsh » Thu Nov 9, 2023 1:36 pm

elchengue20 wrote:Springer and a ligthtly proyected 1st is the most i could give up for Caruso. Its a fair deal.

Hes Jrue Holiday lite. Hes valuable for a contender, just playing in a garbage team.

Springer could be nice but hes years away from really contribuiting at the highest level.


Jrue Holiday? He’s more prime Pat Beverly. With a 6’5 wingspan he might as well he 6’2. He’s a pest, hustler. He not locking up like Jrue because he doesn’t have the length.

Valuable but more valuable as a defensive guard off the bench. If a 1st is the going rate for that then I suppose he’s worth it.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#456 » by Kobblehead » Thu Nov 9, 2023 1:40 pm

The going rate for guys that are going to play 15-20 mpg for you is a single 2nd round pick. Two at the most.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#457 » by Arsenal » Thu Nov 9, 2023 2:25 pm

I think Malcolm Brogdon is the best / most attainable fit. 2-Way player who can shoot, defend, handle and distribute, plus has sufficient size to partner with Maxey in the backcourt.

He's only owed $22.5m next season so we can still target a max FA next summer if we get him.

This assumes he's healthy though. Don't know what's up with his elbow which nixed him from the Porzingis trade. And he hurt his hammy last night also.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#458 » by M2J » Thu Nov 9, 2023 2:41 pm

Embiid P wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:
M2J wrote:I'll apologize for my Lavine crusade. I still think he's a great option due to scoring/shooting/athleticism.

But this team clearly could just stick with 2 way long athletic wings and be fine.

I'd say Bridges (not available),OG (maybe available for overpay), Grant (maybe available for overpay), Siakam (will be available). Should be the targets.

If you can get one of them and Lavine you are the clear favorites to win multiple titles



Grant won't be an overpay, if anything they'll struggle to move him.


I'd gladly take a first rounder or two to take Grant off Portland's hands. It's not like they don't have plenty of them to offer after the Dame trade. The fit is there if nothing else.

In b4 JRoy shoots me down.


Well I think JRoy is right to a degree. Portland was trying to be a competitive team with a young core. Problem so far is that Scoot has been bad and Simon injured. They have Ayton, Grant, Sharpe... Brogdon and Williams on the bench. They're fooling themselves, and may be comfortable keeping him right now, unless you overpay. They also signed him with hope of him being an asset, not to give up assets to get rid of him. That should change in the future to let Camara play, but I don't know if they're in a rush without an overpay.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#459 » by the_process » Thu Nov 9, 2023 3:37 pm

M2J wrote:
phillynative wrote:Obviously need a upgrade at the guard position. Melton is struggling and only 6'1 and Pat is our only over ballhandler on the peremeter. That's not good enough for the long run.



Morey during his interview said he wasn't focused on backup PG or secondary ball handlers. He believes the player won't be good enough to stay in the rotation.

I tend to agree that it's not the biggest deal, but Tyrese can't miss any time


In Morey's mind, Melton and Beverley are etched in stone in the rotation.

So he's wrong.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#460 » by SixthStreet » Thu Nov 9, 2023 3:56 pm

I think we have to play it out a little longer to see what type of add we should make at the deadline. Right now I'm leaning to a low asset snag of DeRozan.

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