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Mik317 · Post #461 » by **Mik317** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 3:26 am

Houston is targeting Drummond (apparently).

Talks that it is a 3 way with Toronto and Sactown (Lowry to Toronto and 14, with Sactown getting 8 (Harkless or Henson) and maybe 16 and Houston getting 5(Drummond)).

I think that's how it would go.

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_ ... p-in-draft

This draft is gonna be full of crazy trades.....which can only mean.

"We tried to move up for him, we were surprised he was there yo".

JordanMars · Post #462 » by **JordanMars** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 3:31 am

Knux-Future wrote:Houston is targeting Drummond (apparently).

Talks that it is a 3 way with Toronto and Sactown (Lowry to Toronto and 14, with Sactown getting 8 (Harkless or Henson) and maybe 16 and Houston getting 5(Drummond)).

I think that's how it would go.

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_ ... p-in-draft

This draft is gonna be full of crazy trades.....which can only mean.

"We tried to move up for him, we were surprised he was there yo".

We cant get pick 5 for Iggy and 15 but Houston can get 5 for Lowry,14,16. Makes no sense.

LongLiveHinkie · Post #463 » by **LongLiveHinkie** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 3:33 am

I hope the Sixers just stand pat and take BPA at 15.

I liken this draft to the one where it was rumored they really wanted Yi Jianlian and I was hoping they would stand pat and take Thornton or Thad Young. Worked out pretty well. I don't think the guys in top 10 are worth trading up for.

Arsenal · Post #464 » by **Arsenal** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 3:34 am

I agree with others that we better decisively choose rebuilding, or contending. It's foolish to trade away Andre Iguodala and then sign Kris freaking Humphries to a long-term big money contract.

If we trade Iguodala to GS in the rumored deal for #7, Richard Jefferson and Dorrell Wright, then:

PG Holiday / Cheap FA
SG Turner / Wright
SF Jefferson / Young / #15 (Harkless / Moultrie / Henson)
PF Brand / Allen
C #7 (Drummond) / Vucevic

We should just roll with that lineup instead of wasting money on Humphries, because that team isn't going to win anything anyway. I'd also amnesty Brand and slide Allen or someone else into the starting lineup. The resulting open cap room would be another major asset, as we could take back expiring salaries attached to extra draft picks to help other teams avoid the luxury tax.

bebopdeluxe · Post #465 » by **bebopdeluxe** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 3:35 am

JordanMars wrote:
Knux-Future wrote:Houston is targeting Drummond (apparently).

Talks that it is a 3 way with Toronto and Sactown (Lowry to Toronto and 14, with Sactown getting 8 (Harkless or Henson) and maybe 16 and Houston getting 5(Drummond)).

I think that's how it would go.

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_ ... p-in-draft

This draft is gonna be full of crazy trades.....which can only mean.

"We tried to move up for him, we were surprised he was there yo".

We cant get pick 5 for Iggy and 15 but Houston can get 5 for Lowry,14,16. Makes no sense.

It makes sense to me.

KKell2507 · Post #466 » by **KKell2507** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 3:38 am

This is a good thing. I really think teams are going to frantically move upto get the players they want and a couple of players will fall through and continue to drop. The guy I think could drop just because no one is talking about him, Thomas Robinson. I really believe Robinson could end up sitting there at 7.

If the Bobcats decide to take Barnes like many speculate, I see Beal going 3 to the Wizards, MKG going 4th to the Cavs. Then if Houston jumps up to take Drummond at 5, that leaves only Portland at 6. Portland is obviously got a great opportunity to build a good team around Lamarcus Aldridge. So would they really use their top pick on another PF when theyve got opportunities to get a guy like Lillard who they covet or Waiters? That leaves the Warriors at 7 who we are looking at trading up to, with the opportunity to get Thomas Robinson.

JordanMars · Post #467 » by **JordanMars** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 3:40 am

bebopdeluxe wrote:
JordanMars wrote:
Knux-Future wrote:Houston is targeting Drummond (apparently).

Talks that it is a 3 way with Toronto and Sactown (Lowry to Toronto and 14, with Sactown getting 8 (Harkless or Henson) and maybe 16 and Houston getting 5(Drummond)).

I think that's how it would go.

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_ ... p-in-draft

This draft is gonna be full of crazy trades.....which can only mean.

"We tried to move up for him, we were surprised he was there yo".

We cant get pick 5 for Iggy and 15 but Houston can get 5 for Lowry,14,16. Makes no sense.

It makes sense to me.

Reason being?? Toronto would never do this deal.

LongLiveHinkie · Post #468 » by **LongLiveHinkie** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 3:41 am

I was listening to some draft talk the other night and some dude who runs a draft site whose name I forget said he loves Arnett Moultrie and thinks he is the biggest steal in the draft and thinks in 5 years he will be the 2nd best player in the draft.

He said the Sixers would be smart to grab him. I didn't see enough of Miss. State to make a full judgment, but from what I saw he looked pretty solid.

Mik317 · Post #469 » by **Mik317** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 3:43 am

Toronto is linked to Lamb,Rivers,Harkless,Ross and Waiters. They can get one at 14 and get Lowry.

That would work out pretty good for them.

Of course I'm not sure if that would be the actual deal.

JordanMars · Post #470 » by **JordanMars** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 3:45 am

KKell2507 wrote:This is a good thing. I really think teams are going to frantically move upto get the players they want and a couple of players will fall through and continue to drop. The guy I think could drop just because no one is talking about him, Thomas Robinson. I really believe Robinson could end up sitting there at 7.

If the Bobcats decide to take Barnes like many speculate, I see Beal going 3 to the Wizards, MKG going 4th to the Cavs. Then if Houston jumps up to take Drummond at 5, that leaves only Portland at 6. Portland is obviously got a great opportunity to build a good team around Lamarcus Aldridge. So would they really use their top pick on another PF when theyve got opportunities to get a guy like Lillard who they covet or Waiters? That leaves the Warriors at 7 who we are looking at trading up to, with the opportunity to get Thomas Robinson.

Would too good to be true if we had a shot at Robinson.

51X3RF4N · Post #471 » by **51X3RF4N** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 3:47 am

So Tor trades 8 for Lowry and 14. Houston trades 14, 16 and Lowry for 5. And Sacto trades 5 for 8 and 16? I think every team wins in that deal. Sacto drops a few spots to pick up a mid-round pick and can still potentially deal 8 for Iggy or just draft 2 guys. Houston takes a gamble on getting Drummond for Lowry (essentially). And Toronto drops back 6 spots to still get a decent player, or at least not someone drastically worse than the 8th pick, and picks up Lowry to fill a position of need. They could also still deal 14, Davis, and Calderon to the Sixers for Iggy if it means the Sixers keep 15. Not saying I'd advocate that trade as a Sixers fan though.

I think if this trade actually happened, it does sort of take the Sixers out of the Drummond race, and leaves them looking to trade up with Portland, GSW, or maybe Sacto at 8.

KKell2507 · Post #472 » by **KKell2507** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 3:51 am

JordanMars wrote:
KKell2507 wrote:This is a good thing. I really think teams are going to frantically move upto get the players they want and a couple of players will fall through and continue to drop. The guy I think could drop just because no one is talking about him, Thomas Robinson. I really believe Robinson could end up sitting there at 7.

If the Bobcats decide to take Barnes like many speculate, I see Beal going 3 to the Wizards, MKG going 4th to the Cavs. Then if Houston jumps up to take Drummond at 5, that leaves only Portland at 6. Portland is obviously got a great opportunity to build a good team around Lamarcus Aldridge. So would they really use their top pick on another PF when theyve got opportunities to get a guy like Lillard who they covet or Waiters? That leaves the Warriors at 7 who we are looking at trading up to, with the opportunity to get Thomas Robinson.

Would too good to be true if we had a shot at Robinson.

It could happen though. Portland is the key to everything we may want at 7. If Sactown stays at 5 and takes Robinson in that scenario, then Portland has same decision to make, only with Drummond.

JordanMars · Post #473 » by **JordanMars** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 3:52 am

Other than the deal for Al Jefferson, i prefer the GSW deal. Nets us a couple shooters,Jefferson and Wright and we get to keep 15. 4 Players for Iggy? ill take it.

PG-Jrue,Lou(Resigned)
SG-Turner,Terrence Ross(Drafted at 15)
SF-Jefferson,Wright
PF-Henson(Draft),Thad
C-Voose,Lavoy

Still gotta add a center via Free agency, maybe hold onto Brand.
Ok lol im done puting together Fantasy lineups.

51X3RF4N · Post #474 » by **51X3RF4N** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 3:59 am

How is that 4 players for Iggy? It's 3. Wright, Jefferson and the pick.

LongLiveHinkie · Post #475 » by **LongLiveHinkie** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 4:03 am

Weird. Howard Eskin said Doug Collins and Iguodala have grown really close since the season has ended, so put the hold on all Iguodala trade rumors because it looks like he could be staying put.

JordanMars · Post #476 » by **JordanMars** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 4:08 am

Westbrook36 wrote:Weird. Howard Eskin said Doug Collins and Iguodala have grown really close since the season has ended, so put the hold on all Iguodala trade rumors because it looks like he could be staying put.

Interesting to say the least. Eskin is a viable source

76ciology · Post #477 » by **76ciology** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 4:09 am

^ business is business. I believe big changes are coming. If you don't believe me, just hear DC's post game interview in our last game against the Celtics. When he said something like the team will be binded forever but they aren't going to be the same team next season.

At a business standpoint, not trading Iguodala will make him a huge liability on the team. What do you do when his contract runs out? Do you overpay him or do you let him walk away?

The Sixer Fixer · Post #478 » by **The Sixer Fixer** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 4:10 am

Westbrook36 wrote:Weird. Howard Eskin said Doug Collins and Iguodala have grown really close since the season has ended, so put the hold on all Iguodala trade rumors because it looks like he could be staying put.

Bye Bye Evan!

Cru Thik · Post #479 » by **Cru Thik** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 4:13 am

Since when was Howard Eskin a reliable source lmao.

LongLiveHinkie · Post #480 » by **LongLiveHinkie** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 4:14 am

The only team he isn't reliable with is the Phillies, but his Flyers/Eagles/Sixers sources are excellent. I trust him and am rarely let down. The problem is that a lot of haters of his(and he has a lot of haters) spread around false rumors that he never reported and on the internet he gets a bad reputation for it.

I can't tell you how many times I read online that Howard Eskin reported some rumor when I know it came from some random blog like yardbarker and not Howard.