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Uh oh, Embiid suffers setback per Woj 

Post#461 » by Ericb5 » Tue Jun 16, 2015 4:45 pm

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Stanford wrote:But Keith Pompey spoke with an undisclosed source, dudes. I'm not sure KU is even a real school. Bill Self sounds like a made-up name.

So fake. Bill self is a to-do list item for money launderers.


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Post#462 » by Chamberlainship » Tue Jun 16, 2015 4:50 pm

It's pretty cool that the sixers aren't pressuring Embiid to play before he's ready.

That said, I'm sick of tanking. If they don't know Embiid can play next year, they should sign a good, young NBA player to team with Noel and the #3 pick and hopefully make the team more competitive. I'm willing to accept the corresponding decline in lottery position. Is that realistic?

Does anyone think the sixers will be active in the free agency/trade market for an average or above-average NBA player this summer?
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Post#463 » by Arsenal » Tue Jun 16, 2015 4:51 pm

Chamberlainship wrote:It's pretty cool that the sixers aren't pressuring Embiid to play before he's ready.

That said, I'm sick of tanking. If they don't know Embiid can play next year, they should sign a good, young NBA player to team with Noel and the #3 pick and hopefully make the team more competitive. I'm willing to accept the corresponding decline in lottery position. Is that realistic?

Does anyone think the sixers will be active in the free agency/trade market for an average or above-average NBA player this summer?


Hell no we won't. Why in hell would we make a counter productive move like that? Luckily the Sixers braintrust doesn't care about the opinion of short-sighted fans such as you.
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Post#464 » by sixers23 » Tue Jun 16, 2015 4:59 pm

Chamberlainship wrote:It's pretty cool that the sixers aren't pressuring Embiid to play before he's ready.

That said, I'm sick of tanking. If they don't know Embiid can play next year, they should sign a good, young NBA player to team with Noel and the #3 pick and hopefully make the team more competitive. I'm willing to accept the corresponding decline in lottery position. Is that realistic?

Does anyone think the sixers will be active in the free agency/trade market for an average or above-average NBA player this summer?

who would they even sign? nobody available
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Post#465 » by XtremeDunkz » Tue Jun 16, 2015 5:05 pm

Chamberlainship wrote:It's pretty cool that the sixers aren't pressuring Embiid to play before he's ready.

That said, I'm sick of tanking. If they don't know Embiid can play next year, they should sign a good, young NBA player to team with Noel and the #3 pick and hopefully make the team more competitive. I'm willing to accept the corresponding decline in lottery position. Is that realistic?

Does anyone think the sixers will be active in the free agency/trade market for an average or above-average NBA player this summer?


Go to the Orlando board and ask them how they are liking Channing Frye and Ben Gordon.
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Nemesis21 wrote:It is absolutely hilarious hearing people still say Embiid has superstar potential.The guy is one injury away from being Greg Oden.:lol: Except Oden manged to play over 100 games in the NBA, I don't think Embiid will play more.
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Post#466 » by BullyKing » Tue Jun 16, 2015 5:10 pm

Chamberlainship wrote:It's pretty cool that the sixers aren't pressuring Embiid to play before he's ready.

That said, I'm sick of tanking. If they don't know Embiid can play next year, they should sign a good, young NBA player to team with Noel and the #3 pick and hopefully make the team more competitive. I'm willing to accept the corresponding decline in lottery position. Is that realistic?

Does anyone think the sixers will be active in the free agency/trade market for an average or above-average NBA player this summer?


We know you're sick of tanking - you've complained about it since day one. The problem, as always, is that your preferred alternative does not exist - in this case an available good young NBA player that would make this team more competitive.
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the plan is to get as good as quickly as possible....I fully believe we could have been a borderline playoff team last year by adding young veterans....using or draft picks and cap space.....can I specifically tell you who? no.
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Post#467 » by TigerInYourTank » Tue Jun 16, 2015 5:10 pm

Chamberlainship wrote:It's pretty cool that the sixers aren't pressuring Embiid to play before he's ready.

That said, I'm sick of tanking. If they don't know Embiid can play next year, they should sign a good, young NBA player to team with Noel and the #3 pick and hopefully make the team more competitive. I'm willing to accept the corresponding decline in lottery position. Is that realistic?

Does anyone think the sixers will be active in the free agency/trade market for an average or above-average NBA player this summer?


Man, are you saying that 3 years of tanking is too long? What the hell are you thinking????*lolz*
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Post#468 » by Ericb5 » Tue Jun 16, 2015 5:11 pm

XtremeDunkz wrote:
Chamberlainship wrote:It's pretty cool that the sixers aren't pressuring Embiid to play before he's ready.

That said, I'm sick of tanking. If they don't know Embiid can play next year, they should sign a good, young NBA player to team with Noel and the #3 pick and hopefully make the team more competitive. I'm willing to accept the corresponding decline in lottery position. Is that realistic?

Does anyone think the sixers will be active in the free agency/trade market for an average or above-average NBA player this summer?


Go to the Orlando board and ask them how they are liking Channing Frye and Ben Gordon.


Seriously. There is nobody worth signing out there other than guys that probably wouldn't sign here yet.


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Post#469 » by 76ciology » Tue Jun 16, 2015 5:20 pm

I'd rather have a losing season while enjoying a top 3 pick and Noel play with the hopes of having a contender in 1-2 seasons than suffering another threadmill team and watching us pay washed off vets for the MLE and LLE. (greg buckner anyone?)

Embiid not playing next year is not the end. With a top 3 pick next year (3rd year), we could still end up being the most promising team in the league and build a contender in the future.
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Post#470 » by crow » Tue Jun 16, 2015 5:28 pm

Chamberlainship wrote:It's pretty cool that the sixers aren't pressuring Embiid to play before he's ready.

That said, I'm sick of tanking. If they don't know Embiid can play next year, they should sign a good, young NBA player to team with Noel and the #3 pick and hopefully make the team more competitive. I'm willing to accept the corresponding decline in lottery position. Is that realistic?

Does anyone think the sixers will be active in the free agency/trade market for an average or above-average NBA player this summer?


We don't have our star yet. Can embiid be that star? I dunno. I think this whole thing is being overblown but he still hasn't played an NBA game yet. Can Noel be that star? He's looking more like a solid defensive big, not a superstar. Well see tho, I think hell be a really good player. Then we have the draft, which you never know with.

Why rush and sign free agents before we're ready?
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Post#471 » by Chamberlainship » Tue Jun 16, 2015 5:36 pm

I haven't scoured the list of free agents/possible trade targets because I didn't think it was a viable option.

With the Embiid injury, I was thinking that Harris might suggest to Hinkie that after 3 really bad years (one of which wasn't Hinkie's fault), they throw a bone to the fans. They wouldn't be abandoning the plan, just making an adjustment to make the product a little more entertaining and "be a better citizen of the league" or whatever Harris said when the majority of teams voted to change the lottery back before the season.
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Post#472 » by crow » Tue Jun 16, 2015 5:42 pm

Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:
Chamberlainship wrote:I haven't scoured the list of free agents/possible trade targets because I didn't think it was a viable option.

With the Embiid injury, I was thinking that Harris might suggest to Hinkie that after 3 really bad years (one of which wasn't Hinkie's fault), they throw a bone to the fans. They wouldn't be abandoning the plan, just making an adjustment to make the product a little more entertaining and "be a better citizen of the league" or whatever Harris said when the majority of teams voted to change the lottery back before the season.


I'm just going to throw this out there:

Would y'all do Lowry, Valanciunas, #20, & the 2016 NYK pick for #3?

Lowry

Covington
Noel
Valanciunas

Lowry comes home to Philly.

Thanks in advance.


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Post#473 » by Arsenal » Tue Jun 16, 2015 5:55 pm

Chamberlainship wrote:I haven't scoured the list of free agents/possible trade targets because I didn't think it was a viable option.

With the Embiid injury, I was thinking that Harris might suggest to Hinkie that after 3 really bad years (one of which wasn't Hinkie's fault), they throw a bone to the fans. They wouldn't be abandoning the plan, just making an adjustment to make the product a little more entertaining and "be a better citizen of the league" or whatever Harris said when the majority of teams voted to change the lottery back before the season.


What you are suggesting IS abandoning "the plan" and that's why Harris and Hinkie won't do it. Thankfully we finally have ownership and management that is committed to building a champion and not just committed to filling the arena, placating the fans, and/or making some short term profits.
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Post#474 » by Sixerscan » Tue Jun 16, 2015 6:03 pm

Chamberlainship wrote:I haven't scoured the list of free agents/possible trade targets because I didn't think it was a viable option.

With the Embiid injury, I was thinking that Harris might suggest to Hinkie that after 3 really bad years (one of which wasn't Hinkie's fault), they throw a bone to the fans. They wouldn't be abandoning the plan, just making an adjustment to make the product a little more entertaining and "be a better citizen of the league" or whatever Harris said when the majority of teams voted to change the lottery back before the season.


Wouldn't have shocked me if they had been planning on doing this even before the injury. I think even if Embiid is going to be healthy, bringing in a veteran big man and point would be smart. (if they can get good value of course)

Not for the "citizen of the league" stuff though. I'm sure the teams we are signing those free agents from wouldn't be happy they are losing those players. Nor would the additional teams that we would beat next year because of those free agents.
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Post#475 » by TigerInYourTank » Tue Jun 16, 2015 6:03 pm

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Chamberlainship wrote:I haven't scoured the list of free agents/possible trade targets because I didn't think it was a viable option.

With the Embiid injury, I was thinking that Harris might suggest to Hinkie that after 3 really bad years (one of which wasn't Hinkie's fault), they throw a bone to the fans. They wouldn't be abandoning the plan, just making an adjustment to make the product a little more entertaining and "be a better citizen of the league" or whatever Harris said when the majority of teams voted to change the lottery back before the season.


What you are suggesting IS abandoning "the plan" and that's why Harris and Hinkie won't do it. Thankfully we finally have ownership and management that is committed to building a champion and not just committed to filling the arena, placating the fans, and/or making some short term profits.


You are totally speaking out of turn. The quantity and expected quality of draft picks accumulated for next year should not make it necessary to tank a 3rd year, Embiid or no Embiid.

It's OK to be willing to keep delaying one's own gratification, but calling out other fans who want to see the team competitive after 2 years of tanking is just wrong. You are just giving legs to the hitherto ridiculous story of a Hinkie ponzie scheme.
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Post#476 » by Arsenal » Tue Jun 16, 2015 6:16 pm

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Arsenal wrote:
Chamberlainship wrote:I haven't scoured the list of free agents/possible trade targets because I didn't think it was a viable option.

With the Embiid injury, I was thinking that Harris might suggest to Hinkie that after 3 really bad years (one of which wasn't Hinkie's fault), they throw a bone to the fans. They wouldn't be abandoning the plan, just making an adjustment to make the product a little more entertaining and "be a better citizen of the league" or whatever Harris said when the majority of teams voted to change the lottery back before the season.


What you are suggesting IS abandoning "the plan" and that's why Harris and Hinkie won't do it. Thankfully we finally have ownership and management that is committed to building a champion and not just committed to filling the arena, placating the fans, and/or making some short term profits.


You are totally speaking out of turn. The quantity and expected quality of draft picks accumulated for next year should not make it necessary to tank a 3rd year, Embiid or no Embiid.

It's OK to be willing to keep delaying one's own gratification, but calling out other fans who want to see the team competitive after 2 years of tanking is just wrong. You are just giving legs to the hitherto ridiculous story of a Hinkie ponzie scheme.


No you're the one who is wrong. If tanking for a 3rd year significantly improves the chances of winning multiple titles, then you better believe that's what they will do. What I'm quite sure they will NOT do is sign some mediocre veterans to big money contracts in a misguided effort to win 5 additional games this upcoming season which, in the long term, means absolutely nothing.

In case it's not clear, the GOAL of the plan is NOT to be competitive this upcoming year. The GOAL of the plan to is to best position the team to win multiple championships. If that means tanking again this year then that's exactly what they will do.
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Post#477 » by TigerInYourTank » Tue Jun 16, 2015 6:24 pm

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TigerInYourTank wrote:
Arsenal wrote:
What you are suggesting IS abandoning "the plan" and that's why Harris and Hinkie won't do it. Thankfully we finally have ownership and management that is committed to building a champion and not just committed to filling the arena, placating the fans, and/or making some short term profits.


You are totally speaking out of turn. The quantity and expected quality of draft picks accumulated for next year should not make it necessary to tank a 3rd year, Embiid or no Embiid.

It's OK to be willing to keep delaying one's own gratification, but calling out other fans who want to see the team competitive after 2 years of tanking is just wrong. You are just giving legs to the hitherto ridiculous story of a Hinkie ponzie scheme.


No you're the one who is wrong. If tanking for a 3rd year significantly improves the chances of winning multiple titles, then you better believe that's what they will do. What I'm quite sure they will NOT do is sign some mediocre veterans to big money contracts in a misguided effort to win 5 additional games this upcoming season which, in the long term, means absolutely nothing.

In case it's not clear, the GOAL of the plan is NOT to be competitive this upcoming year. The GOAL of the plan to is to best position the team to win multiple championships. If that means tanking again this year then that's exactly what they will do.


"No, you're the one that's wrong. You're the doo-doo head that doesn't understand."

You know, that General Board survey about the demographics on realgm is making more sense every day.
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Post#478 » by Ericb5 » Tue Jun 16, 2015 6:24 pm

TigerInYourTank wrote:
Arsenal wrote:
Chamberlainship wrote:I haven't scoured the list of free agents/possible trade targets because I didn't think it was a viable option.

With the Embiid injury, I was thinking that Harris might suggest to Hinkie that after 3 really bad years (one of which wasn't Hinkie's fault), they throw a bone to the fans. They wouldn't be abandoning the plan, just making an adjustment to make the product a little more entertaining and "be a better citizen of the league" or whatever Harris said when the majority of teams voted to change the lottery back before the season.


What you are suggesting IS abandoning "the plan" and that's why Harris and Hinkie won't do it. Thankfully we finally have ownership and management that is committed to building a champion and not just committed to filling the arena, placating the fans, and/or making some short term profits.


You are totally speaking out of turn. The quantity and expected quality of draft picks accumulated for next year should not make it necessary to tank a 3rd year, Embiid or no Embiid.

It's OK to be willing to keep delaying one's own gratification, but calling out other fans who want to see the team competitive after 2 years of tanking is just wrong. You are just giving legs to the hitherto ridiculous story of a Hinkie ponzie scheme.



Not signing non star free agents is not to make the team worse. The point is that you don't know what your core is yet, so signing ancillary players to support your core can't be done because we don't know what the core is yet.

These are the contracts that mess up rebuilds because they are expensive, and two years down the road, may not fit what you need.

The team next season will be better than last season even if Embiid doesn't play. I think the summer of 2016 is the first time where we should think about free agents.


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Post#479 » by BullyKing » Tue Jun 16, 2015 6:29 pm

Chamberlainship wrote:I haven't scoured the list of free agents/possible trade targets because I didn't think it was a viable option.



Great - so to recap: (1) you're sick of tanking; (2) so the Sixers should sign a young, good NBA player who will make the team competitive; but (3) you can't be bothered to figure out who that person is. Anything else?
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Post#480 » by Arsenal » Tue Jun 16, 2015 6:34 pm

TigerInYourTank wrote:
Arsenal wrote:
TigerInYourTank wrote:
You are totally speaking out of turn. The quantity and expected quality of draft picks accumulated for next year should not make it necessary to tank a 3rd year, Embiid or no Embiid.

It's OK to be willing to keep delaying one's own gratification, but calling out other fans who want to see the team competitive after 2 years of tanking is just wrong. You are just giving legs to the hitherto ridiculous story of a Hinkie ponzie scheme.


No you're the one who is wrong. If tanking for a 3rd year significantly improves the chances of winning multiple titles, then you better believe that's what they will do. What I'm quite sure they will NOT do is sign some mediocre veterans to big money contracts in a misguided effort to win 5 additional games this upcoming season which, in the long term, means absolutely nothing.

In case it's not clear, the GOAL of the plan is NOT to be competitive this upcoming year. The GOAL of the plan to is to best position the team to win multiple championships. If that means tanking again this year then that's exactly what they will do.


"No, you're the one that's wrong. You're the doo-doo head that doesn't understand."

You know, that General Board survey about the demographics on realgm is making more sense every day.


Do you have something of value to say? Apparently not since you're resorting to childish attacks. Only a --no personal attacks/name calling-- would consider tanking one more year to be "giving legs to the hitherto ridiculous story of a Hinkie ponzie scheme."

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