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76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2

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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#461 » by Foshan » Sat Feb 3, 2024 2:51 pm

SixersSince82 wrote:This could be a blessing in disguise.

Possibility A. Joel rests up for 2 months which gives Maxey, Tobias and dare I say Oubre time to prove their mettle and Nurse time to establish a truly less predictable offense which needs less from Joel to be effective and all this leads to the 6ers being the best possible postseason version of themselves.

Possibility B. Let Joel recover. Trade off some of the valued role players for picks or youth to improve our summer time war chest in pursuit of the 3rd star any Joel Embiid led team really needs to compete for titles.

The only truly bad possibility is if Jo decides to play on this injury and it gets worse. This is likely what will happen.


So would this be if Joel is really messed up, who do you mean by valued role players? Like Harris/Melton? i don't think we are getting much from anyone else on the team.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#462 » by Arsenal » Sat Feb 3, 2024 2:52 pm

Apparently, Melton will finally be back Monday vs. the Mavs. Thank Zeus, we desperately need him!

If the rest of the team gets healthy we can hold the fort until Embiid (hopefully) is back.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#463 » by Arsenal » Sat Feb 3, 2024 2:55 pm

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Arsenal wrote:There is a guy out there who just got a plea deal. I assume he’s free to sign with any team. Put up good numbers as a lead guard last year and is only 23. Maybe a chance to steal an undervalued talent.

I’m just sayin’ we might want to look into it…


Are you referring to Kevin Porter, Jr.? Not sure about signing guys with allegations of domestic violence. How is his situation different from Miles Bridges who most (including myself) would rather avoid like the plague?


His case has been resolved fwiw


Right. Charges got downgraded and the issue is resolved assuming he doesn't make another misstep. Doesn't look anywhere near as bad as the Miles Bridges situation.

Therefore, this could be the perfect time to swoop in and grab a young ascending talent on the cheap. If he messes up again just cut him. But the upside is significant.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#464 » by Jailblazers7 » Sat Feb 3, 2024 3:03 pm

Problem is that KPJ is a losing player AND a locker room cancer. He’s been given a lot of opportunities to show he can mature but he’s failed to do so every time.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#465 » by mjkvol » Sat Feb 3, 2024 3:38 pm

76ciology wrote:How would you guys feel if we end up with LeBron instead?


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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#466 » by ProcessDoctor » Sat Feb 3, 2024 3:40 pm

GSW out: Wiggins, Paul, Kuminga, 1st
GSW in: Harris, Reed, Covington

PHI out: Harris, Morris, Covington, Reed, Springer, picks
PHI in: Lauri, Olynyk, Wiggins, Paul

UTAH out: Lauri, Olynyk
UTAH in: Morris, Kuminga, Springer, all the picks


Maxey/Paul
Melton/Beverley
Wiggins/Oubre
Lauri/Batum
Embiid/Olynyk
2025-2026 Philadelphia 76ers:

Maxey/McCain/Lowry
Edgecombe/Grimes/Gordon
George/Oubre/Edwards
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Embiid/Drummond/Bona/Broome
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#467 » by FireMorey » Sat Feb 3, 2024 4:37 pm

Foshan wrote:
SixersSince82 wrote:This could be a blessing in disguise.

Possibility A. Joel rests up for 2 months which gives Maxey, Tobias and dare I say Oubre time to prove their mettle and Nurse time to establish a truly less predictable offense which needs less from Joel to be effective and all this leads to the 6ers being the best possible postseason version of themselves.

Possibility B. Let Joel recover. Trade off some of the valued role players for picks or youth to improve our summer time war chest in pursuit of the 3rd star any Joel Embiid led team really needs to compete for titles.

The only truly bad possibility is if Jo decides to play on this injury and it gets worse. This is likely what will happen.


So would this be if Joel is really messed up, who do you mean by valued role players? Like Harris/Melton? i don't think we are getting much from anyone else on the team.


Even getting a couple 2nds for Oubre or a trade like that could be valuable.

People may scoff at it now like it would be a pointless trade, but teams add depth in the 2nd round. Would it make or break the Sixers title hopes? No, but just keep building your asset pool. You never know which one will turn into something really valuable. Whether it's a pick into a player or a pick used in a trade. The more you have, the more swings you're able to make. It always sucks when the 2nd round comes and the Sixers have no picks.

If Embiid is going to miss significant time or can't return this season anywhere near 100%, they should sell off everything they have. Every little bit counts. Shut Embiid down and an unintended byproduct is your first round pick will continue to get more valuable either to keep or trade as you rack up the L's.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#468 » by Jailblazers7 » Sat Feb 3, 2024 4:44 pm

Lebron in Philly would get ugly because his fanbase would pick apart Maxey & Embiid any time the team fails & Sixers fans would boo Lebron any time he showed his age.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#469 » by kriss73 » Sat Feb 3, 2024 6:00 pm

LOL at the Nets leaking a ton of first round picks for NOT trading Bridges ad DFS.

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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#470 » by FireMorey » Sat Feb 3, 2024 6:03 pm

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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#471 » by Stanford » Sat Feb 3, 2024 6:20 pm

A new phrase in the ever-growing process lexicon.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#472 » by Eyeamok » Sat Feb 3, 2024 6:39 pm

Jailblazers7 wrote:Problem is that KPJ is a losing player AND a locker room cancer. He’s been given a lot of opportunities to show he can mature but he’s failed to do so every time.

I agree with you. I love KPJ potential. But he's shown everyone several times who he is on and off the basketball court believe him. I have no doubt he will come in to a team and play extremely well and then eventually revert back to his old ways it's who he is. Could he mature and change ? Yes. But I doubt it.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#473 » by Arsenal » Sat Feb 3, 2024 6:40 pm

It would be foolish to burn any assets for a short term fix for this season. This season is functionally over. Time to make moves focusing on next year and beyond.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#474 » by Arsenal » Sat Feb 3, 2024 6:41 pm

One silver lining is this will really force Maxey’s further development. Need him to solidify his star status and become the team leader. Hopefully Paul Reed proves his worth with extended minutes also.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#475 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Sat Feb 3, 2024 6:59 pm

No thanks to KPJ. Even before he strangled his girlfriend, he was a dumba$$. If you're going to take a chance on a reclamation player they better at least be talented. Porter is just a fool, a chucker, and a losing player.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#476 » by Eyeamok » Sat Feb 3, 2024 6:59 pm

Arsenal wrote:
Decipher wrote:
Embiid P wrote:
Are you referring to Kevin Porter, Jr.? Not sure about signing guys with allegations of domestic violence. How is his situation different from Miles Bridges who most (including myself) would rather avoid like the plague?


His case has been resolved fwiw


Right. Charges got downgraded and the issue is resolved assuming he doesn't make another misstep. Doesn't look anywhere near as bad as the Miles Bridges situation.

Therefore, this could be the perfect time to swoop in and grab a young ascending talent on the cheap. If he messes up again just cut him. But the upside is significant.


And now for my double talk. If I'm the GM KPJ is the kind of player I would find extremely intriguing. And I would possibly sign him knowing that it could possibly blow up in my face. But as you said low cost high reward kind of player.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#477 » by sixers hoops » Sat Feb 3, 2024 7:07 pm

FireMorey wrote:
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If you recall a few summers ago, Embiid faced the same situation and told the team he didn’t want to get surgery, and that was during the offseason when he wouldn’t even have missed any games.

One doctor has said that a report stated it was the lateral meniscus, which he stated is something medical professionals would often try non-surgical interventions first. He did say this yesterday afternoon, so I’m not sure if the information released in the last 24 hours changes that, but he did say that surgery would likely have Embiid ready to go for the playoffs.

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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#478 » by Negrodamus » Sat Feb 3, 2024 7:18 pm

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Makes me feel like he’s going the surgery route then unless it really is a bad interpretation of the information
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#479 » by sixers hoops » Sat Feb 3, 2024 7:19 pm

Eyeamok wrote:
Arsenal wrote:
Decipher wrote:
His case has been resolved fwiw


Right. Charges got downgraded and the issue is resolved assuming he doesn't make another misstep. Doesn't look anywhere near as bad as the Miles Bridges situation.

Therefore, this could be the perfect time to swoop in and grab a young ascending talent on the cheap. If he messes up again just cut him. But the upside is significant.


And now for my double talk. If I'm the GM KPJ is the kind of player I would find extremely intriguing. And I would possibly sign him knowing that it could possibly blow up in my face. But as you said low cost high reward kind of player.


I doubt Nick Nurse wants any parts of this guy in his locker room. In just a few years, he was suspended by his college team for personal conduct. Then in Cleveland he was suspended for a weapons charge, then finally was suspended and traded due to a locker room outburst. He goes to Houston and gets suspended for a fight with coaches at halftime. Then he wrapped it up with a domestic violence charge.

This guy doesn’t have the ability to get out of his own way, so I don’t see a good team taking a gamble on him.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#480 » by Skates » Sat Feb 3, 2024 7:25 pm

Stanford wrote:A new phrase in the ever-growing process lexicon.


This is a fairly common injury, a tear of the lateral meniscus that flops over onto itself. How do I know this? I am sitting here rehabbing exactly the same injury in my right and much older knee than Joel's. Tried the rehab process, because insurance insisted on it, got really nowhere with it, improvement of the other injuries around the meniscus tear and flap, but no improvement in that area. Finally has surgery, which is arthroscopic, and was walking within a week. Its six weeks past surgery and I am still having some issues, but most of those are due to the extended and unsuccessful rehab period earlier along with not walking right for three months before the surgery.

Now, for a man of Joel's age and profession the choice might more complicated since for a young, athletic person they would try a meniscus repair, which has a longer, more lasting recovery than mine which they just went in and removed the offending flap and smoothed the edges of the remaining meniscus cartilage around it. Repair can't be done too late or it can't be repaired and has a longer recovery, but that procedure will be much better for him for the next bunch of years by mitigating the amount of cartilage lost, if any.

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