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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#461 » by SixthStreet » Wed Jul 31, 2024 3:39 am

I don't know how many minutes we should hoist on Gordon to start the season, but I think starting him and bring Oubre off the bench in non-Embiid lineups would be better than the other way around.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#462 » by 76ciology » Wed Jul 31, 2024 4:22 am

SixthStreet wrote:I don't know how many minutes we should hoist on Gordon to start the season, but I think starting him and bring Oubre off the bench in non-Embiid lineups would be better than the other way around.


How certain are you that Caleb Martin will start?

I believe Caleb will come off the bench, with either Reggie Jackson or Kyle Lowry starting alongside Maxey.

I also think Eric Gordon will serve as Maxey’s backup off the bench.

My guess for the starting lineup would be:

Reggie Jackson/Kyle Lowry
Tyrese Maxey/Eric Gordon
Kelly Oubre/Ricky Council
Paul George/Caleb Martin/KJ Martin
Joel Embiid/Andre Drummond
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#463 » by PhillyNj » Wed Jul 31, 2024 10:28 am

My guess for a starting lineup is:
Pg. Maxey
Sg. Oubrea
Sf. George
Pf.Martin
C Embiid.

To me this is there best option by far.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#464 » by NearingZero » Wed Jul 31, 2024 12:34 pm

76ciology wrote:
SixthStreet wrote:I don't know how many minutes we should hoist on Gordon to start the season, but I think starting him and bring Oubre off the bench in non-Embiid lineups would be better than the other way around.


How certain are you that Caleb Martin will start?

I believe Caleb will come off the bench, with either Reggie Jackson or Kyle Lowry starting alongside Maxey.

I also think Eric Gordon will serve as Maxey’s backup off the bench.

My guess for the starting lineup would be:

Reggie Jackson/Kyle Lowry
Tyrese Maxey/Eric Gordon
Kelly Oubre/Ricky Council
Paul George/Caleb Martin/KJ Martin
Joel Embiid/Andre Drummond

My impression is that Martin makes a lot more sense alongside 3 great scorers than with bench units. Whereas Oubre can be a starter or a scoring 6th man IMO.

However, maybe there won't really be "bench units" if we try to keep 2 of the 3 main guys on the floor. In which case I don't know that it really matters that much if Martin starts. I do expect him to close games with the big 3. Not sure who the 5th closer will be. Hopefully Oubre earns that role with improved defensive work and scoring efficiency.

Regardless, the good thing about some of the vet pickups is they can change things up if certain combinations are not clicking.
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Post#465 » by zaz102 » Wed Jul 31, 2024 12:53 pm

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76ciology wrote:
SixthStreet wrote:I don't know how many minutes we should hoist on Gordon to start the season, but I think starting him and bring Oubre off the bench in non-Embiid lineups would be better than the other way around.


How certain are you that Caleb Martin will start?

I believe Caleb will come off the bench, with either Reggie Jackson or Kyle Lowry starting alongside Maxey.

I also think Eric Gordon will serve as Maxey’s backup off the bench.

My guess for the starting lineup would be:

Reggie Jackson/Kyle Lowry
Tyrese Maxey/Eric Gordon
Kelly Oubre/Ricky Council
Paul George/Caleb Martin/KJ Martin
Joel Embiid/Andre Drummond

My impression is that Martin makes a lot more sense alongside 3 great scorers than with bench units. Whereas Oubre can be a starter or a scoring 6th man IMO.

However, maybe there won't really be "bench units" if we try to keep 2 of the 3 main guys on the floor. In which case I don't know that it really matters that much if Martin starts. I do expect him to close games with the big 3. Not sure who the 5th closer will be. Hopefully Oubre earns that role with improved defensive work and scoring efficiency.

Regardless, the good thing about some of the vet pickups is they can change things up if certain combinations are not clicking.
I agree with your last point especially. If they are able to trade KJ+picks for a legitimate starting PF, and sign someone of at least Marcus Morris or Cedi Osman level, then there's really a lot of combinations they can run with. And I think these moves ate very realistic.

You'd have traditional players and combo guards/big wings that would really let you play with the lineups.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#466 » by ivysixer2000 » Wed Jul 31, 2024 3:17 pm

I just don't think Martin came here to sign up for another bench role. Now I don't know why people are putting him at the 4, maybe I need to watch more on him.

End of the day, I don't see how we can avoid Maxey. Martin, Oubre, PG, and Embiid starting in no particular order.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#467 » by Sixerscan » Wed Jul 31, 2024 3:31 pm

NearingZero wrote:
76ciology wrote:
SixthStreet wrote:I don't know how many minutes we should hoist on Gordon to start the season, but I think starting him and bring Oubre off the bench in non-Embiid lineups would be better than the other way around.


How certain are you that Caleb Martin will start?

I believe Caleb will come off the bench, with either Reggie Jackson or Kyle Lowry starting alongside Maxey.

I also think Eric Gordon will serve as Maxey’s backup off the bench.

My guess for the starting lineup would be:

Reggie Jackson/Kyle Lowry
Tyrese Maxey/Eric Gordon
Kelly Oubre/Ricky Council
Paul George/Caleb Martin/KJ Martin
Joel Embiid/Andre Drummond

My impression is that Martin makes a lot more sense alongside 3 great scorers than with bench units. Whereas Oubre can be a starter or a scoring 6th man IMO.

However, maybe there won't really be "bench units" if we try to keep 2 of the 3 main guys on the floor. In which case I don't know that it really matters that much if Martin starts. I do expect him to close games with the big 3. Not sure who the 5th closer will be. Hopefully Oubre earns that role with improved defensive work and scoring efficiency.

Regardless, the good thing about some of the vet pickups is they can change things up if certain combinations are not clicking.


Given the way it sounds like Martin's contract was set up with the bonuses for starting I would think there's a general understanding he's starting. Which makes sense since he's probably the 4th best player on the team and fits with the top 3 guys like you said.

I think we should just not overthink it, Martin and Oubre are probably at least going to be the initial starters.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#468 » by LeonJordanJr24 » Wed Jul 31, 2024 6:26 pm

C. Martin most definitely starting at SF wing with George at 4 wing . Oubre and KJ backing them up. Definitely see Jackson, gordon or council possibly taking the starting spot 2 combo spot.


Our last roster spot interesting all different but def bring a need to the table .

Morris Sr all Around PF. enforcer with juice left.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#469 » by Zumramania » Wed Jul 31, 2024 9:22 pm

ivysixer2000 wrote:I just don't think Martin came here to sign up for another bench role. Now I don't know why people are putting him at the 4, maybe I need to watch more on him.

End of the day, I don't see how we can avoid Maxey. Martin, Oubre, PG, and Embiid starting in no particular order.


Yes, because otherwise we would be too small and too weak on the boards. We do need one more good rebounder off the bench.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#470 » by FireMorey » Thu Aug 1, 2024 2:44 pm

Hayward retired so cross him off the list.

Pompey reports Marcus Morris returning is a mutual interest between him and the Sixers. Another guy the Sixers are interested in is Bertans.
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Post#471 » by cej11 » Thu Aug 1, 2024 3:18 pm

FireMorey wrote:Hayward retired so cross him off the list.

Pompey reports Marcus Morris returning is a mutual interest between him and the Sixers. Another guy the Sixers are interested in is Bertans.


I like Morris but I would rather have Bertans. I feel like we need another shooter on this roster.
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Post#472 » by SixthStreet » Thu Aug 1, 2024 3:50 pm

I think they are both beyond useless but also would rather have Bertans.
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Post#473 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Thu Aug 1, 2024 4:25 pm

I'll take Bertans. Morris tries to do too much. Bertans at least stays within his role.
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Post#474 » by HotelVitale » Thu Aug 1, 2024 4:35 pm

ivysixer2000 wrote:I just don't think Martin came here to sign up for another bench role. Now I don't know why people are putting him at the 4, maybe I need to watch more on him.

End of the day, I don't see how we can avoid Maxey. Martin, Oubre, PG, and Embiid starting in no particular order.

For now that’s probably how it’ll shape up, with Oubre the first to move to the bench if they need more size. Could be some ugly lineups with like Morris starting at the 4 to balance things out some. Obviously plan is to use that Martin deal to get a legit PF. Maybe that Tobias guy from Det is available?

It’s really the size and rebounding that matters most with that lineup. If Embiid were healthy and like 25 he could fill in a lot of that, but he’s neither of those things. I also generally don’t love Oubre starting, kinda weird fit with our big 3 on offense (even if we will get ourselves some dunkzzz).
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Post#475 » by mjkvol » Thu Aug 1, 2024 5:27 pm

FireMorey wrote:Hayward retired so cross him off the list.

Pompey reports Marcus Morris returning is a mutual interest between him and the Sixers. Another guy the Sixers are interested in is Bertans.


Give me Bertans in a heartbeat. At least he offers shooting, while Morris offers nothing at this point but " 'tude"
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#476 » by Stanford » Thu Aug 1, 2024 6:21 pm

I really don't understand why Maxey can't be a plus defender with all that added MASS.
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Post#477 » by zaz102 » Thu Aug 1, 2024 7:16 pm

mjkvol wrote:
FireMorey wrote:Hayward retired so cross him off the list.

Pompey reports Marcus Morris returning is a mutual interest between him and the Sixers. Another guy the Sixers are interested in is Bertans.


Give me Bertans in a heartbeat. At least he offers shooting, while Morris offers nothing at this point but " 'tude"
Is Bertans better than Osman?
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#478 » by mjkvol » Thu Aug 1, 2024 7:52 pm

zaz102 wrote:
mjkvol wrote:
FireMorey wrote:Hayward retired so cross him off the list.

Pompey reports Marcus Morris returning is a mutual interest between him and the Sixers. Another guy the Sixers are interested in is Bertans.


Give me Bertans in a heartbeat. At least he offers shooting, while Morris offers nothing at this point but " 'tude"
Is Bertans better than Osman?


If Osman is available and willing to come, he would be first choice among the three. But Bertans offers at least one elite (or somewhat elite at this point) skill, while Morris offers nothing other than a scowling mug.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#479 » by HotelVitale » Thu Aug 1, 2024 8:19 pm

mjkvol wrote:
FireMorey wrote:Hayward retired so cross him off the list.

Pompey reports Marcus Morris returning is a mutual interest between him and the Sixers. Another guy the Sixers are interested in is Bertans.


Give me Bertans in a heartbeat. At least he offers shooting, while Morris offers nothing at this point but " 'tude"


Think it’s more that Bertans offers sick shooting but disaster at everything else, while Morris is a reliable shooter who can make a couple dribbles and a pass if he’s having a good game (and not destroy your defensively). I’m on the fence, think Bertans is maybe better and definitely more fun but Morris is probably the better choice if we need to play someone like 20mpg for a stretch.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#480 » by FireMorey » Thu Aug 1, 2024 9:06 pm

Morris is better in the mid range and rebounding, but both have little left. That said, Morris played pretty decent for the Sixers before he was traded. Better than I expected.

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