2025 Fantasy Trade Thread

[the_process]

Mike on the RTRS pod gets sad whenever it's brought up that we'd have to trade Embiid + #3 for Giannis. I think it has to be on the table, sadly. Giannis's buddy, Brook, would probably come for the vet min. What more would you add to Embiid + #3 (if anything) for that swap?

Maxey/McCain/Butler
Grimes/Edwards/Gordon
George/Oubre/Council
Giannis/(TMLE)/(#35)
Lopez/Bona/Drummond

If you can get Giannis for Embiid and 3, you do it. The Bucks will ask for something absurd, though, so it’s not even worth thinking about.

This is why my mind keeps coming back to Zion.

Giannis will likely cost too much/we’ll have nothing left after the trade.

We missed out on Flagg and Harpe. No one at #3 is seemingly a franchise player.

We’ve been riding the Embiid train and know how it ends.

I don’t see any other potential MVP-caliber options this summer.

Maxey for Franz. Let’s just get it done.

[76ciology]

Giannis would be smart to request a trade to the Sixers.. specifically in a deal for Embiid. In Philadelphia, he’d get exactly what he wants, the chance to be the clear franchise player, without having to play in Wembanyama’s shadow, a roster that’s already built to contend, a legacy of a savior, and proximity to a major market like New York (Embiid lives in NY right?). It checks every box for him.

[mjkvol]

Mike on the RTRS pod gets sad whenever it's brought up that we'd have to trade Embiid + #3 for Giannis. I think it has to be on the table, sadly. Giannis's buddy, Brook, would probably come for the vet min. What more would you add to Embiid + #3 (if anything) for that swap?

Maxey/McCain/Butler
Grimes/Edwards/Gordon
George/Oubre/Council
Giannis/(TMLE)/(#35)
Lopez/Bona/Drummond

If you can get Giannis for Embiid and 3, you do it. The Bucks will ask for something absurd, though, so it’s not even worth thinking about.

This is why my mind keeps coming back to Zion.

Giannis will likely cost too much/we’ll have nothing left after the trade.

We missed out on Flagg and Harpe. No one at #3 is seemingly a franchise player.

We’ve been riding the Embiid train and know how it ends.

I don’t see any other potential MVP-caliber options this summer.

Hey, here's an idea - forget the "potential MVP-caliber options" for once and just draft the best player on your board or trade down for more picks. We've tried all the win-now stuff for six years and it's gotten us nowhere. Why not try a different approach, one that is succeeding around the league now?

[the_process]

If you can get Giannis for Embiid and 3, you do it. The Bucks will ask for something absurd, though, so it’s not even worth thinking about.

This is why my mind keeps coming back to Zion.

Giannis will likely cost too much/we’ll have nothing left after the trade.

We missed out on Flagg and Harpe. No one at #3 is seemingly a franchise player.

We’ve been riding the Embiid train and know how it ends.

I don’t see any other potential MVP-caliber options this summer.

Hey, here's an idea - forget the "potential MVP-caliber options" for once and just draft the best player on your board or trade down for more picks. We've tried all the win-now stuff for six years and it's gotten us nowhere. Why not try a different approach, one that is succeeding around the league now?

What is: Morey hasn’t gotten the memo yet for a thousand, Alex!

[the_process]

CHA gets Cole Anthony, 3, and 35
ORL gets Maxey, George, and 4
PHI gets F Wagner, M Wagner, KCP, J Howard, Okogie, 16, 25, 33, and 2026 2nd best of WSH/PHX/ORL 1sts

[Foshan]

So this is more a question than a proposal...

is a S&T around Grimes and Kuminga a financial possibility? Is it something worth considering?

For GS, they don't want to pay Kuminga for what they like to use him for... he wants bigger role. Grimes could play between Curry/Butler.
For us, maybe we really like a guard at #3, and playing PG and Kiminga next to each other gives us two big wings.

Both of us have money troubles, not sure its even a possibility (or that I'd want Kuminga) but, how bout it?

[ProcessDoctor]

If you can get Giannis for Embiid and 3, you do it. The Bucks will ask for something absurd, though, so it’s not even worth thinking about.

This is why my mind keeps coming back to Zion.

Giannis will likely cost too much/we’ll have nothing left after the trade.

We missed out on Flagg and Harpe. No one at #3 is seemingly a franchise player.

We’ve been riding the Embiid train and know how it ends.

I don’t see any other potential MVP-caliber options this summer.

Hey, here's an idea - forget the "potential MVP-caliber options" for once and just draft the best player on your board or trade down for more picks. We've tried all the win-now stuff for six years and it's gotten us nowhere. Why not try a different approach, one that is succeeding around the league now?

All the teams in the hunt have a franchise player. All I’m saying is we need to have one too.

[mjkvol]

This is why my mind keeps coming back to Zion.

Giannis will likely cost too much/we’ll have nothing left after the trade.

We missed out on Flagg and Harpe. No one at #3 is seemingly a franchise player.

We’ve been riding the Embiid train and know how it ends.

I don’t see any other potential MVP-caliber options this summer.

Hey, here's an idea - forget the "potential MVP-caliber options" for once and just draft the best player on your board or trade down for more picks. We've tried all the win-now stuff for six years and it's gotten us nowhere. Why not try a different approach, one that is succeeding around the league now?

What is: Morey hasn’t gotten the memo yet for a thousand, Alex!

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe Morey has ever traded a high lottery pick for win-now pieces. And he specifically pointed out that getting younger was the priority, and began moving in that direction last season.

If Giannis actually made noise about wanting to come to Philly, I'm sure there would be conversations. But to gut the team and all the assets would be insanity, and wouldn't serve Giannis' purpose of competing for titles. And I wish everyone would stop with the Zion foolishness - at what point will we ever learn our lesson?!?

[the_process]

Hey, here's an idea - forget the "potential MVP-caliber options" for once and just draft the best player on your board or trade down for more picks. We've tried all the win-now stuff for six years and it's gotten us nowhere. Why not try a different approach, one that is succeeding around the league now?

What is: Morey hasn’t gotten the memo yet for a thousand, Alex!

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe Morey has ever traded a high lottery pick for win-now pieces. And he specifically pointed out that getting younger was the priority, and began moving in that direction last season.

If Giannis actually made noise about wanting to come to Philly, I'm sure there would be conversations. But to gut the team and all the assets would be insanity, and wouldn't serve Giannis' purpose of competing for titles. And I wish everyone would stop with the Zion foolishness - at what point will we ever learn our lesson?!?

You are correct, however to be fair, this is the first time Morey has had a high lottery pick.

Morey says they want to get younger. He also says if they win, it will be because of Joel. So he’s speaking out of both sides of his mouth.

I do wonder if the pick is burning a hole in his pocket or if he really sees one of these prospects as a future star?

[the_process]

So this is more a question than a proposal...

is a S&T around Grimes and Kuminga a financial possibility? Is it something worth considering?

For GS, they don't want to pay Kuminga for what they like to use him for... he wants bigger role. Grimes could play between Curry/Butler.

For us, maybe we really like a guard at #3, and playing PG and Kiminga next to each other gives us two big wings.

Both of us have money troubles, not sure its even a possibility (or that I'd want Kuminga) but, how bout it?

So receiving a S&T hard caps you at the 1st apron. If you roped in BKN, and got them to eat some salaries from both teams as part of a 3 for 8, 19, and our 28 1st returned swap; it could work.

It would certainly help to balance the Sixers out positionally. Is there enough ball to go around? Don’t think George cares very much about taking a back seat, so he shouldn’t be an issue, but if Embiid actually plays it could be a problem.

Just a work in progress:

BKN gets Oubre, Moody, and 3
GSW gets Drummond, Gordon, Grimes S&T (4-112)
PHI gets Kuminga S&T (4-136), 8, 19, and 2028 1st returned

It works in the trade checker, and even with being hard capped at the 1st apron, Sixers can still fill out their roster with minimums. I imagine that draft picks are also an exception where you can go over regardless? Seems like it when I googled it, although nothing definitive.


https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2024/07/how-nba-teams-become-hard-capped.html

Found that about hard caps.

[Arsenal]

Grimes is a much better player than Kuminga. Paying Kuminga $35m/yr is franchise suicide. No thanks.

[ProcessDoctor]

The reports of Kuminga wanting to be THE guy are a complete turnoff for me.

[SixersFan21]

Grimes is a much better player than Kuminga. Paying Kuminga $35m/yr is franchise suicide. No thanks.

I think this goes without saying, I mean 4/136 - does anyone think Kuminga will get 4/136 anywhere I know he was offered crazy money (30/per) last offseason and wanted crazier but he's not going to get that or anything close guy still can't shoot, defense is suspect not a great passer, didn't improve this year and was benched in playoffs for a team in contention - he is super athletic but what else is there. I think Kuminga is going to look back and realized he made a nerlens noel dallas offer level of stupidity in declining GSWs offer.

Kumingas only change to get a large offer is to convince the nets who I think would rather sit on their capspace. My guess is he'll be lucky to get something in the 20m per range and that will either be with nets, or gsw. I think they'll look at sign and trades but no one is going to give something up useful and pay Kuminga big money and because you can't aggregate S&Ts not many options work. There a couple that might (Vuc for Kuminga) but I wouldn't be suprised for Kuminga to resign with GSW around 15-20m a year and then they trade him once they can in aggregation with others for a bigger player - on the cheaper contract he'd have some value.

[mjkvol]

What is: Morey hasn’t gotten the memo yet for a thousand, Alex!

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe Morey has ever traded a high lottery pick for win-now pieces. And he specifically pointed out that getting younger was the priority, and began moving in that direction last season.

If Giannis actually made noise about wanting to come to Philly, I'm sure there would be conversations. But to gut the team and all the assets would be insanity, and wouldn't serve Giannis' purpose of competing for titles. And I wish everyone would stop with the Zion foolishness - at what point will we ever learn our lesson?!?

You are correct, however to be fair, this is the first time Morey has had a high lottery pick.

Morey says they want to get younger. He also says if they win, it will be because of Joel. So he’s speaking out of both sides of his mouth.

I do wonder if the pick is burning a hole in his pocket or if he really sees one of these prospects as a future star?

I'm hoping that Jaku or Kon are his guys and he will be actively looking to trade a few spots down for more assets.

IMO any Joel talk is pure PR, so ticket sales won't crater.

[the_process]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe Morey has ever traded a high lottery pick for win-now pieces. And he specifically pointed out that getting younger was the priority, and began moving in that direction last season.

If Giannis actually made noise about wanting to come to Philly, I'm sure there would be conversations. But to gut the team and all the assets would be insanity, and wouldn't serve Giannis' purpose of competing for titles. And I wish everyone would stop with the Zion foolishness - at what point will we ever learn our lesson?!?

You are correct, however to be fair, this is the first time Morey has had a high lottery pick.

Morey says they want to get younger. He also says if they win, it will be because of Joel. So he’s speaking out of both sides of his mouth.

I do wonder if the pick is burning a hole in his pocket or if he really sees one of these prospects as a future star?

I'm hoping that Jaku or Kon are his guys and he will be actively looking to trade a few spots down for more assets.

IMO any Joel talk is pure PR, so ticket sales won't crater.

I'm not sure about that. Morey's formulas rely so heavily on star power, I wouldn't be surprised if he rated 10% Embiid over 100% Maxey.

But I'm willing to be hopeful that privately, he learned his lesson from trading Simmons that stars can be found and you don't have to chase only the known ones.

[the_process]

BKN gets Conley, Oubre, Drummond, and 3
MIN gets Durant
PHI gets DiVincenzo, 8, 19, and 2028 1st returned
PHX gets Randle, L Miller, Gordon, and 17

[Arsenal]

Sixers trade / Pelicans receive: Paul George

Pelicans trade / Sixers receive: Zion Williamson

Fair value now that Zion has been accused of a serious crime. We roll the dice that he beats the allegations, and if so we're golden. If not, at least his contract is shorter than PG's. Meanwhile Pels move on from the failed Zion era and get a two-way wing that could bounce back into all-star status.

Did I cook?

[Jojothewhale]

Sixers trade / Pelicans receive: Paul George

Pelicans trade / Sixers receive: Zion Williamson

Fair value now that Zion has been accused of a serious crime. We roll the dice that he beats the allegations, and if so we're golden. If not, at least his contract is shorter than PG's. Meanwhile Pels move on from the failed Zion era and get a two-way wing that could bounce back into all-star status.

Did I cook?

Zion’s contract isn’t guaranteed anymore. There’s zero chance NO does this when they can just walk away for free.

[PhillyFan11]

Trade #3, Drummond and Gordon to Washington for #6, #40, Kyshawn George, and Saddiq Bey

Trade #35, Council and Edwards to Memphis for GG Jackson

Draft: Knuepple (#6), Broome (#40)

Resign: Yabu

Sign: Precious Achiuwa and Sandro Mamukelashvili

Let walk: Grimes and Walker

Guards: Maxey, McCain, Knuepple, George, Butler
Forwards: PG, Yabu, GG, Oubre, Bey, Broome
Centers: Embiid, Achiuwa, Boma, Mamukelashvili

[youngcrev]

Sixers trade / Pelicans receive: Paul George

Pelicans trade / Sixers receive: Zion Williamson

Fair value now that Zion has been accused of a serious crime. We roll the dice that he beats the allegations, and if so we're golden. If not, at least his contract is shorter than PG's. Meanwhile Pels move on from the failed Zion era and get a two-way wing that could bounce back into all-star status.

Did I cook?

Bruh...