Welcome Furkan Korkmaz

[TTP]

Man it seems like just yesterday that Korkmaz was being proclaimed as a draft steal. Time really flies.

[dorkestra]

Really stupid.

[HotelVitale]

So if I said "will prove to be" instead of "was an" this entire conversation wouldn't exist? Seems like such a small semantical reason for this much pushback. This reeks of "Colangelo hate" baggage that TTP and Lloyd are still carrying around, lol.

Yes. If you said it that way, there would be no conversation and nothing to disagree with.

It's depressing that pretty much all of Colangelo's draft picks have been brutal and set this organization back:
- Simmons: no issue here
- Fultz: Tatum and Mitchell would be better players and fits and not costed the Kings first
- TLC: Siakam, Murray, Brogdan, and McCaw would have been nice - many on this board wanted them
- Korkmaz: same as TLC
- Pasecniks: he seriously traded the OKC pick for him?
Not to mention Colangelo screwing up the Nerlens and Okafor trades. Shout out to the Ringer/Bill Simmons for saving the Sixers from themselves.

Hindsight's boring and annoying though. Unless you were blasting the TLC and Korkmaz pick at the time, and for good reason, don't be calling them out now. Both of those guys had plenty to like about them, just weren't able to put it together and couldn't hang at NBA speed. And unless you were on record talking about taking Mitchell at #3 you don't really have the right to call someone else a fool for not seeing that.

That said, I think the Pasecniks trade first tipped me off that BC might actually be a moron. At draft time it was so hard to imagine how Pasecniks could be a viable NBA player--skinny+soft, can't shoot, can't dribble or pass at all, doesn't have good rebounding or defense instincts--that only someone thinking with something other than their eyes could've targeted him. We talk about Fultz way more for good reason, but it was more enlightening for me to see that BC really thought it wise to use a 1st rd pick on a 2nd string C-league player just because he sort of looked like Porzingis.

[TheBallsDeeper]

A petty spiteful cutting from our alcoholic coach, brett brown.

Alcoholic??

[Simmons25]

He sees an inferior player getting minutes ahead of him and it bothers him. Could see that coming.

Shamet is much better than Korkmaz (Yes I know you meant Fultz but Fultz has taken TJ's spot not Korkmaz's)

Besides Korkmaz played in a grand total of 14 games last year for 80 minutes. He didn't have a spot to start with. I had high hopes for him based on his play in the off-season for Turkey but Shamet has obviously been better.

[TTP]

So now time to speculate what happens with Korkmaz. Seems likely we use him for salary filler in a deal - Wayne Ellington is getting DNP CDs and was good last year. Korver is available too. Given our start, I think it's pretty likely we pursue one of those two and I'm not sure which one I'd prefer. Korver has a connection with Brand from Atlanta and obviously has the connection with Philadelphia.

Given that Korkmaz isn't good enough to give us minutes now and it makes no sense for us to keep developing him without being rewarded with the upside, he'll almost certainly be gone by buyout season at the latest.

We also might want the roster spot to convert Shake Milton. I'm curious if we give him a look at some point before his 2-way expires.

[76ciology]

Our team’s best player is not re-signing. Im devastated

[LordCovington33]

A petty spiteful cutting from our alcoholic coach, brett brown.

An alcoholic is a very harsh accusation, but he as dumb as two bricks. There is a reason he was brought in - to help the tank.

[Kolkmania]

Colangelo's contributions just keep getting better.


2016 Draft

#01 - Ben Simmons
#24 - Timothe Luwawu - (from Thad Young)
#26 - Furkan Korkmaz - (J Maghee salary dump)

2017 Draft

#01- Markelle Fultz - (from #5 plus, [Stauskas deal] Kings 2017 pick swap, plus 2019 #1protected Kings pick)

#25 - AnzejlsPasecniks (from Jeremy Grant trade)

#36 - Jonah Bolden
#39 - SOLD pick
#46 - SOLD pick
#50 - Mathias Lessort

That's absolutely horrible. However most of us were okay with #24 and #26 in 2016. I've been saying this for years now, but we suck at developing players (or at the ability to recognize players who have the internal drive to get better).

[Ericb5]

I think that Korkmaz is a rounding error on our rebuild, but he made a mistake coming over last year. He was not ready for the NBA, and even though the team has moved on from player development taking precedence over winning, had he come over this year, he would have rode the pine this year, and had a better chance next year.

Now he is talking himself out of town, and while I have no real optimism with him, I don't want to throw him away for a second rounder, and he isn't going to get us a first rounder.

If we can use him in a trade for Korver then that would be my preference. Bayless and Korkmaz for Korver would be great.

[TTP]

I think that Korkmaz is a rounding error on our rebuild, but he made a mistake coming over last year. He was not ready for the NBA, and even though the team has moved on from player development taking precedence over winning, had he come over this year, he would have rode the pine this year, and had a better chance next year.

Now he is talking himself out of town, and while I have no real optimism with him, I don't want to throw him away for a second rounder, and he isn't going to get us a first rounder.

If we can use him in a trade for Korver then that would be my preference. Bayless and Korkmaz for Korver would be great.

You're not getting even a 2nd for him right now. Declining the option killed that possibility. If he's in a trade, it will be as salary filler like Okafor last year. I'm also willing to bet that the team tried to move him prior to the option deadline and didn't have any takers, otherwise it doesn't make sense to decline the option. You might as well consider him thrown away, because even if he miraculously breaks out by season's end, we won't have the ability to retain him beyond the season. A second would be a great result at this point.

[Hipster Doofus]

New thread title - Goodbye Furkan Korkmaz.

[nrok10307]

Yes. If you said it that way, there would be no conversation and nothing to disagree with.

It's depressing that pretty much all of Colangelo's draft picks have been brutal and set this organization back:
- Simmons: no issue here
- Fultz: Tatum and Mitchell would be better players and fits and not costed the Kings first
- TLC: Siakam, Murray, Brogdan, and McCaw would have been nice - many on this board wanted them
- Korkmaz: same as TLC
- Pasecniks: he seriously traded the OKC pick for him?
Not to mention Colangelo screwing up the Nerlens and Okafor trades. Shout out to the Ringer/Bill Simmons for saving the Sixers from themselves.

Hindsight's boring and annoying though. Unless you were blasting the TLC and Korkmaz pick at the time, and for good reason, don't be calling them out now. Both of those guys had plenty to like about them, just weren't able to put it together and couldn't hang at NBA speed. And unless you were on record talking about taking Mitchell at #3 you don't really have the right to call someone else a fool for not seeing that.

That said, I think the Pasecniks trade first tipped me off that BC might actually be a moron. At draft time it was so hard to imagine how Pasecniks could be a viable NBA player--skinny+soft, can't shoot, can't dribble or pass at all, doesn't have good rebounding or defense instincts--that only someone thinking with something other than their eyes could've targeted him. We talk about Fultz way more for good reason, but it was more enlightening for me to see that BC really thought it wise to use a 1st rd pick on a 2nd string C-league player just because he sort of looked like Porzingis.

Not sure why you’re trying to persecute me? Haha im not even trying to brag at my drafting skillz (i’m dmittedly bad). I’m just pointing out that the Korkomaz situation is another one in a string of ultimately bad picks that Colangelo’s made. We dont expect a GM to have a perfect hit rate but he consistently struck out while wasting assets; he almost singlehandedly blew up all the work that Hinkie did.

[LeonJordanJr24]

not mad at this. He lacks length , strength and speed to def decently on the the nba level right now.

[Kobblehead]

Personally, I still think Korkmaz can play. I won't go to bat for Fultz, Luwawu, or Pic Baskets, but I think Furkan will catch on as a quality rotation player in this league.

[SwingOnThis]

There is always a place in the league for a guy that can hit an above average percentage of 3s. I don't get the sixers logic here.

[Kobblehead]

There is always a place in the league for a guy that can hit an above average percentage of 3s. I don't get the sixers logic here.

It was a culture move. Furkan was complaining about lack of opportunity.

[TTP]

There is always a place in the league for a guy that can hit an above average percentage of 3s. I don't get the sixers logic here.

It was a culture move. Furkan was complaining about lack of opportunity.

If it was simply a culture move, Furkan would have been traded instead of having his option declined. The most logical explanation is that the league doesn't value him as a prospect.

[Kobblehead]

If it was simply a culture move, Furkan would have been traded instead of having his option declined. The most logical explanation is that the league doesn't value him as a prospect.

I think teams don't know what to make of an international prospect that hasn't played real games. And the fact that he's become mouthy makes them even more reluctant to move an asset in a blind gamble.

[Monix]

There is always a place in the league for a guy that can hit an above average percentage of 3s. I don't get the sixers logic here.

same thing that was said about Hollis Thompson