2018 Pick Watch (Philly, LAL 1 or 6-30, etc)

[Sixerscan]

Hate to ruin the bed wetting parade they are only tied for 6th...

Next 10 games are brutal

Are you trying to get me to ban you or something?

[the_process]

If the Lakers finish with the worst record there’s a 25% chance that pick comes to Philly.

Historically, only one additional 1st to move up from 3 to 1 is very cheap.

Still a lot of basketball to play. Lakers sucking all year long hurts their chances at LBJ or PG13.

[Unbreakable99]

If the Lakers finish with the worst record there’s a 25% chance that pick comes to Philly.

Historically, only one additional 1st to move up from 3 to 1 is very cheap.

Still a lot of basketball to play. Lakers sucking all year long hurts their chances at LBJ or PG13.

Who cares what the Lakers will do in free agency? That has nothing to do with our pick. If they finish in the bottom 5 we lose the pick. We need that pick and we have less than a 50% chance of getting it.

[the_process]

If the Lakers finish with the worst record there’s a 25% chance that pick comes to Philly.

Historically, only one additional 1st to move up from 3 to 1 is very cheap.

Still a lot of basketball to play. Lakers sucking all year long hurts their chances at LBJ or PG13.

Who cares what the Lakers will do in free agency? That has nothing to do with our pick. If they finish in the bottom 5 we lose the pick. We need that pick and we have less than a 50% chance of getting it.

You’ve missed the point. Not only do they have no motivation to suck; they in fact have some major motivation to not suck, to be at least respectable. Wouldn’t be surprised if they made some moves, even.

[Kolkmania]

Devin Booker out with what looks like an adductor strain, Suns could miss him for several weeks.

[timLH]

Devin Booker out with what looks like an adductor strain, Suns could miss him for several weeks.

All the best for him, but PHX losing games might be crucial to keep LAL out of top 5 as I see the top 4 are fixed.

[Eyeamok]

If the Lakers finish with the worst record there’s a 25% chance that pick comes to Philly.

Historically, only one additional 1st to move up from 3 to 1 is very cheap.

Still a lot of basketball to play. Lakers sucking all year long hurts their chances at LBJ or PG13.

Who cares what the Lakers will do in free agency? That has nothing to do with our pick. If they finish in the bottom 5 we lose the pick. We need that pick and we have less than a 50% chance of getting it.

I'm just interested what happens when we get the Lakers pick. Do you start with the Sacramento Kings analysis before or after the draft?

By the way I disliked the trade, I understand it but disliked it. But if it works out that we get the Lakers pick and the Kings are picking in the late lottery the following year BC will have dogged a bullet.

[LordCovington33]

If the Lakers finish with the worst record there’s a 25% chance that pick comes to Philly.

Historically, only one additional 1st to move up from 3 to 1 is very cheap.

Still a lot of basketball to play. Lakers sucking all year long hurts their chances at LBJ or PG13.

Who cares what the Lakers will do in free agency? That has nothing to do with our pick. If they finish in the bottom 5 we lose the pick. We need that pick and we have less than a 50% chance of getting it.

You’ve missed the point. Not only do they have no motivation to suck; they in fact have some major motivation to not suck, to be at least respectable. Wouldn’t be surprised if they made some moves, even.

why do you bother?

[OleSchool]

If the Lakers finish with the worst record there’s a 25% chance that pick comes to Philly.

Historically, only one additional 1st to move up from 3 to 1 is very cheap.

Still a lot of basketball to play. Lakers sucking all year long hurts their chances at LBJ or PG13.

Who cares what the Lakers will do in free agency? That has nothing to do with our pick. If they finish in the bottom 5 we lose the pick. We need that pick and we have less than a 50% chance of getting it.

wrong, if they finish 2-5 we lose the pick. If its 1 we get it

[long range bomber]

If the Lakers finish with the worst record there’s a 25% chance that pick comes to Philly.

Historically, only one additional 1st to move up from 3 to 1 is very cheap.

Still a lot of basketball to play. Lakers sucking all year long hurts their chances at LBJ or PG13.

Who cares what the Lakers will do in free agency? That has nothing to do with our pick. If they finish in the bottom 5 we lose the pick. We need that pick and we have less than a 50% chance of getting it.

wrong, if they finish 2-5 we lose the pick. If its 1 we get it

Even if they finish with the 2-5 worst record, there is still a possibility that PHI get the pick as they could move up to 1 in the lottery OR move down from 5 to 6/7/8 etc.

[KramerDSP]

There is still a possibility of Philly landing the 1st overall pick in 2018 AND 2019.

There's way too many games to freak out about the Lakers. WAY TOO MANY. And yes, I know one of these guys is the guy that correctly freaked out about the top-10 Miami pick not conveying right about this time a couple seasons ago, while everyone else played it down. I'm not playing it down, but I'm not stressing either.

Worst case, we hand over the pick to Boston and we just root for the Kings to lose in '18-'19. Nah, worst case is Fultz busts badly. And even then, we still have Joel Hans Embiid and Benjamin David Simmons. So I'm really not going to develop ulcers all season long worrying about a Lakers pick I have no control over.

[long range bomber]

There is still a possibility of Philly landing the 1st overall pick in 2018 AND 2019.

There's way too many games to freak out about the Lakers. WAY TOO MANY. And yes, I know one of these guys is the guy that correctly freaked out about the top-10 Miami pick not conveying right about this time a couple seasons ago, while everyone else played it down. I'm not playing it down, but I'm not stressing either.

Worst case, we hand over the pick to Boston and we just root for the Kings to lose in '18-'19. Nah, worst case is Fultz busts badly. And even then, we still have Joel Hans Embiid and Benjamin David Simmons. So I'm really not going to develop ulcers all season long worrying about a Lakers pick I have no control over.

Agreed with a lot of what you said. I will add though that some people, like myself, are not stressing over the pick but rather acknowledging and identifying the missed opportunities. One thing I hate is people totally brushing over missed opportunities because they have something else good (Simmons and Embiid in this case). Its like CLE had all these missed opportunities then them saying "who cares, we got Lebron!". In team building you need to get greedy! Like GS saying lets add Durant to our core, or HOU saying lets get Paul even though we have Harden.

[KramerDSP]

There is still a possibility of Philly landing the 1st overall pick in 2018 AND 2019.

There's way too many games to freak out about the Lakers. WAY TOO MANY. And yes, I know one of these guys is the guy that correctly freaked out about the top-10 Miami pick not conveying right about this time a couple seasons ago, while everyone else played it down. I'm not playing it down, but I'm not stressing either.

Worst case, we hand over the pick to Boston and we just root for the Kings to lose in '18-'19. Nah, worst case is Fultz busts badly. And even then, we still have Joel Hans Embiid and Benjamin David Simmons. So I'm really not going to develop ulcers all season long worrying about a Lakers pick I have no control over.

Agreed with a lot of what you said. I will add though that some people, like myself, are not stressing over the pick but rather acknowledging and identifying the missed opportunities. One thing I hate is people totally brushing over missed opportunities because they have something else good (Simmons and Embiid in this case). Its like CLE had all these missed opportunities then them saying "who cares, we got Lebron!". In team building you need to get greedy! Like GS saying lets add Durant to our core, or HOU saying lets get Paul even though we have Harden.

Yeah, I know what you mean. There is an alternate reality where the starting line-up of the 2017-2018 Sixers is:

Ben Simmons (6'11")
JJ Redick (6'4")
Robert Covington (6'9")
Kristaps Porzingis (7'3")
Joel Embiid (7'2")

Jahlil Okafor over Kristaps Porzingis will haunt me for the rest of my life. I wanted that Miami pick at 11, but they covertly tanked at the end, and kept their pick at 10 (Justice Winslow?). The Lakers pick? Man, we've been waiting for that one forever! In 2015, the Lakers jumped to 2nd and got D'Angelo Russell (we would have only gotten it if it was 6th or worse). In 2016, they jump to 2 and draft Ingram. In 2017, they stay at 2 and draft Ball. Sheesh. All of this will be forgiven if the Lakers win the lottery and hand over the 1st overall pick to Philadelphia. The rest of the league will be so pissed at Philadelphia. Healthy Embiid+Saric+Simmons+Healthy Fultz+Doncic would be the craziest thing ever, and it would be even more insane if it was Embiid+Saric+Simmons+Porzingis+Doncic. That's the most international top-heavy NBA team ever assembled, with 5 of the first 7 guys off the bench born and raised outside the United States, and it can all be traced back to the greatest team ever assembled, the Dream Team.

Giving Danny Ainge a Top-Five pick in this year's draft would suck for sure, but I think he would take a center with it, and I think Embiid would be able to handle that center, so I'm just gonna be chill about it (until if it actually happens). I just think people are going to end up expending tons of energy on an outcome that they have no control over whatsoever and there's so much more of the season yet to play (3/4 or so). Also, the Lakers have zero motivation to tank this season. A bunch of other teams are probably going to push them up the standings and give us Mikal Bridges. Michael Carter-Williams for Mikal Bridges? I'll take it!

[Unbreakable99]

If the Lakers finish with the worst record there’s a 25% chance that pick comes to Philly.

Historically, only one additional 1st to move up from 3 to 1 is very cheap.

Still a lot of basketball to play. Lakers sucking all year long hurts their chances at LBJ or PG13.

Who cares what the Lakers will do in free agency? That has nothing to do with our pick. If they finish in the bottom 5 we lose the pick. We need that pick and we have less than a 50% chance of getting it.

wrong, if they finish 2-5 we lose the pick. If its 1 we get it

I know that.

[Ericb5]

Who cares what the Lakers will do in free agency? That has nothing to do with our pick. If they finish in the bottom 5 we lose the pick. We need that pick and we have less than a 50% chance of getting it.

wrong, if they finish 2-5 we lose the pick. If its 1 we get it

I know that.

Why do you prefer the Lakers pick to the Kings pick?


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[long range bomber]

wrong, if they finish 2-5 we lose the pick. If its 1 we get it

I know that.

Why do you prefer the Lakers pick to the Kings pick?


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I'm not sure which pick will be more valuable but I tend to slightly lean towards the 2018 LAL pick for a few reasons:
1) 2017 class seems strongers at the top.
2) 1 of the top players could be available at 6 due to missing the year (Michael Porter)
3) the pick is year sooner meaning 1 year closer to the timeline of prime Covington and our potential max FA .
4) Getting the LAL pick now still leaves us with a chance at 2019 SAC if it falls #1
5) We know the LAL are not good this year, while SAC in 2019 is unknown at this stage (even though they're likely to suck there is a chance they could trade for good players or fluke their 2018 pick)

[Sixers2125]

I want the Lakers to lose as many games as possible. I don't really see any shot in them being bottom 3. Ideally they finish 5 worst and we have a decent shot at #1, while it still being most likely a team leap frogs them in the lotto and we take their #6 pick. I'd hate to get stuck with a 8th to 10th pick which I think is looking pretty likely at this moment. I'd rather just have the Kings pick.

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[RingsDontLie]

Man good game guys. Ingram showed why he will be the better player over Simmons in the draft. He's got the clutch gene.

[CoreyGallagher]

Man good game guys. Ingram showed why he will be the better player over Simmons in the draft. He's got the clutch gene.

Was a good game. Ingram should avoid throwing the ball at opposing player’s hands for 47 minutes if he’s eventually hoping to be.

[Sixers2125]

Man good game guys. Ingram showed why he will be the better player over Simmons in the draft. He's got the clutch gene.

Yeah going 7 for 21 is definitely showing some real promise.

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