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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#481 » by mithrandir17 » Fri Nov 10, 2023 1:09 am

How about Morris + House + Korkmaz and 2 seconds for Derozan + Drummond (fits into the TPE). DDR still expires after this season so it does not change what we do in the offseason. We'll have a legit-sized SG next to Maxey. Drummond was the best backup Joel had in previous years.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#482 » by Covi_Marsh » Fri Nov 10, 2023 1:28 am

Memphis traded 2 firsts to get Smart lol. I don’t think we tryna give them those 2 picks back.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#483 » by 76ciology » Fri Nov 10, 2023 3:33 am

blargh wrote:It would be hilarious if we get the Process team back together to win the chip. RoCo, Grant, drop Bamba for Nerlens. Swing a deal for The Homie, and our team is complete.


LOL i was thinking the same thing. Then trade Melton for TJ. We just do the trade for fun.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#484 » by SixthStreet » Fri Nov 10, 2023 3:33 am

They aren't trading Smart until they see if he can save Morant.
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Post#485 » by 76ciology » Fri Nov 10, 2023 3:35 am

If we want to keep the team intact.. we have around 27-28M of tradable expirings with..

17M Morris
5M DHJ
5M Korkmaz

Then we can use our $9M TPE on a separate deal.

We then could still have Batum, Oubre, Roco, Tobi and Melton on the roster this season. Im just worried that these guys may not be a happy camper with less PT on their contract year.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#486 » by 76ciology » Fri Nov 10, 2023 3:37 am

SixthStreet wrote:They aren't trading Smart until they see if he can save Morant.


Then we put Pat Bev and Morris in the package and let both guys mentor Morant
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#487 » by SixthStreet » Fri Nov 10, 2023 3:44 am

Fultz has a big expiring. Magic might want to move onto their other younger guards. Might be cheap.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#488 » by 76ciology » Fri Nov 10, 2023 5:02 am

Right now, every team thinks they have a chance to win the championship. Once teams like Blazers, Bulls, Raptors and Wolves realizes that its just all a dream, they lose all their leverage, then guys like Lavine, OG, Jerami Grant and Towns will all be in the market.

If you browse through the trade board, wolves fans even think that they’re a top 5 team in the league. Raps fans are a bit bipolar, one page they’re depressed to not have any market for Siakam then they’ll come up with a Towns for Siakam trade unto the next one. Im not saying trade board is the barometer of how teams feel, but it just goes to show how young the season is for any big trades.

For us, we also dont have a clear picture of what we need for we haven’t been through much tests, except for the recent Celts game and probably our first game against the Bucks. The next test will be against the Celts again, around a week from now.

Worse comes to worst, we just let it roll then sign Siakam with a 40M contract in the summer, while having the option to re-sign Oubre, Maxey, Melton and Tobi.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#489 » by 76ciology » Fri Nov 10, 2023 5:08 am

For guards, we can use the $9M trade exemption for Caruso, Wright, McConnel or Fultz (like post above). But honestly, I dont see it much of an upgrade from Melton.

Then to consider the joy of having Roco and Batum. We can generate enough salary to match OG or Jer Grant with Morris, DHJ and Kork.

Seems to me this team will stick with Reed as back-up big. Usually teams have a big line-up C and a small line-up C. I find Reed to be that small line-up C. He’s also a perfect C to go up against the Celts with his pestering deflections and physicality with KP. Or Giannis.

And if ever Embiid sat out games, we’d start Reed and have zombie bamba play the back-up role. Maybe we’ll see it with our upcoming games against Pistons and Pacers.
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Post#490 » by elchengue20 » Fri Nov 10, 2023 10:36 am

I woudnt overrate depth tho, in the most meaningfull Playoff games teams end up playing with a 8 man rotation, 9 at most.

If you have to trade 1 or 2 of them to bring an upgrade, so be it. Depth isnt going to change that much.

Matter of fact, if you trade 1 rotation piece and bring 1 new one, depth doesnt change at all lol.
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Post#491 » by elchengue20 » Fri Nov 10, 2023 11:09 am

Just read that with Caruso on the court Bulls are a top 5 defense, when he sits they are bottom 5.

Against the Suns on Wednesday the Bulls were +24 during Carusos 31 minutes. KD wasnt able to score in any of the 14 halfcourt matchups against him.

I would love to have him here if the price is right and upgrade over Melton, but i woudnt give up more than Springer and a 1st.
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Post#492 » by Embiid P » Fri Nov 10, 2023 11:09 am

elchengue20 wrote:I woudnt overrate depth tho, in the most meaningfull Playoff games teams end up playing with a 8 man rotation, 9 at most.

If you have to trade 1 or 2 of them to bring an upgrade, so be it. Depth isnt going to change that much.

Matter of fact, if you trade 1 rotation piece and bring 1 new one, depth doesnt change at all lol.


Depth matters more during the regular season than it does the playoffs in that having quality depth allows our starters to play less minutes and games during the regular season so that they're not gassed come playoff time.

I thought that our lack of depth was one of the main factors that did us in last season and the one before as it caused Embiid and Harden, neither of whom are spring chickens in NBA terms combined with their injury history, to generally play poorly in the second round.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#493 » by elchengue20 » Fri Nov 10, 2023 11:13 am

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elchengue20 wrote:I woudnt overrate depth tho, in the most meaningfull Playoff games teams end up playing with a 8 man rotation, 9 at most.

If you have to trade 1 or 2 of them to bring an upgrade, so be it. Depth isnt going to change that much.

Matter of fact, if you trade 1 rotation piece and bring 1 new one, depth doesnt change at all lol.


Depth matters more during the regular season than it does the playoffs in that having quality depth allows our starters to play less minutes and games during the regular season so that they're not gassed come playoff time.

I thought that our lack of depth was one of the main factors that did us in last season and the one before as it caused Embiid and Harden, neither of whom are spring chickens in NBA terms combined with their injury history, to generally play poorly in the second round.


Yeah i know but if you trade 1 or 2 pieces to bring a significatevly better one is worth it. I feel people are overrating depth a bit.

If you have to trade Batum or Roco plus Morris for example and bring Grant, your depth is basically the same, its not that big of a deal.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#494 » by 76ciology » Fri Nov 10, 2023 12:58 pm

Despite their vast cap projection, the Sixers are expected to pursue trades that improve their title odds this season. Such deals could eliminate their cap space, but could be advantageous for team-building. If they could acquire players under contract for next season or upcoming free agents with full Bird Rights, they could operate over the cap. This could allow them to re-sign free agents like Tobias Harris and utilize the larger non-taxpayer mid-level exception ($13 million) rather than the room mid-level ($8.1 million).

But if Philadelphia strikes out at the trade deadline, they’ll need to make sure they secure a top free agent. Of all the top upcoming free agents who are extension-eligible, OG Anunoby is one whose maximum extension amount (four years, $116.9 million) isn’t plausible. Anunoby will likely become an unrestricted free agent to pursue a more lucrative deal with no shortage of suitors. He’s an elite perimeter defender and a great tertiary option offensively who won’t take the ball away from Maxey.

If Philadelphia makes Anunoby a prime free agent target, the Sixers can follow a similar blueprint of Houston and Indiana in July. Those teams offered higher average annual salaries than expected to Fred VanVleet and Bruce Brown on short-term contracts. These teams had specific targets to pursue with their cap space and secured their services by outbidding everyone else.

As an example, Anunoby’s first-year maximum salary is projected at $42.8 million based on a five percent salary cap projected increase. The Sixers could offer him just shy of that amount while keeping Joel Embiid, Paul Reed, Jaden Springer, their 2024 first-round pick, and the cap holds of Maxey, De’Anthony Melton, and Kenyon Martin Jr. They could then utilize the $8.1 million room mid-level and re-sign Maxey, Melton, and Martin Jr., or sign-and-trade a combination of them for higher paid players.

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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#495 » by Covi_Marsh » Fri Nov 10, 2023 12:59 pm

76ciology wrote:Right now, every team thinks they have a chance to win the championship. Once teams like Blazers, Bulls, Raptors and Wolves realizes that its just all a dream, they lose all their leverage, then guys like Lavine, OG, Jerami Grant and Towns will all be in the market.

If you browse through the trade board, wolves fans even think that they’re a top 5 team in the league. Raps fans are a bit bipolar, one page they’re depressed to not have any market for Siakam then they’ll come up with a Towns for Siakam trade unto the next one. Im not saying trade board is the barometer of how teams feel, but it just goes to show how young the season is for any big trades.

For us, we also dont have a clear picture of what we need for we haven’t been through much tests, except for the recent Celts game and probably our first game against the Bucks. The next test will be against the Celts again, around a week from now.

Worse comes to worst, we just let it roll then sign Siakam with a 40M contract in the summer, while having the option to re-sign Oubre, Maxey, Melton and Tobi.


I think Trailblazers & Bulls are open to trades. Value for said players are just too high right now. With more losses and closer to deadline, they sell off for cheap after seeing no one biting.

Raptors probably need to lose some more before they start selling off. I think Siakim is certainly available but price won’t come down until closer to deadline of at all. Masai seems willing to lose him for nothing then sell low, which would infuriate the fanbase so he has pressure on him. Toronto may be willing to overpay to keep a OG & Scottie Barnes foundation to build around. I’m certainly not willing to max OG to bring him to Philly.

Timberwolves are actually a solid team. I don’t see them moving KAT unless there’s an actual deal that makes them better.

I’d keep an eye on Pelicans. Zion and Ingram are not a good fit together. Ingram will be on a contract year next season and may want something near max. They have Trey Murphy who seems to be SF of the future. However They could also wait and package Ingram with their draft capitol to outbid anybody for the next available star that wants out.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#496 » by Kobblehead » Fri Nov 10, 2023 1:07 pm

Jerami Grant completing The Process would be super cool.

Seems like a lifetime ago.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#497 » by GutUNC » Fri Nov 10, 2023 1:20 pm

elchengue20 wrote:Just read that with Caruso on the court Bulls are a top 5 defense, when he sits they are bottom 5.

Against the Suns on Wednesday the Bulls were +24 during Carusos 31 minutes. KD wasnt able to score in any of the 14 halfcourt matchups against him.

I would love to have him here if the price is right and upgrade over Melton, but i woudnt give up more than Springer and a 1st.


Don't read the Caruso to PHL on the trade board then.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#498 » by mjkvol » Fri Nov 10, 2023 2:42 pm

76ciology wrote:For us, we also dont have a clear picture of what we need for we haven’t been through much tests, except for the recent Celts game and probably our first game against the Bucks. The next test will be against the Celts again, around a week from now.


Exactly why I would prefer to make no moves until we approach the deadline. We'll have a much clearer picture what we need for the playoff push, and there are certain to be multiple options available from teams looking to next season.

I'm sorry, but I'm not in on Smart. This is not last season, we aren't in some dire need of any "dog" mentality - Beverley brings plenty of that on his own, and this is a much better group in that regard. I just don't trust lifelong Celtics, and my guess is that all that 'magic' that Smart offered in the playoff series last year would vanish here. He is fool's gold.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#499 » by Tony Franciosa » Fri Nov 10, 2023 6:20 pm

Smart just feels like one of those guys who torments us, but would fail stupendously once we'd acquire him. Pass.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#500 » by Arsenal » Fri Nov 10, 2023 6:26 pm

Smart would be a double agent just like Horford! He still bleeds green!! No thanks!!!

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