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Post#481 » by LeonJordanJr24 » Sat Dec 16, 2023 12:34 am

We got wings that play D and score in offensive flow in Melton and Oubre and got forwards who play their roles in Batum,cov,Morris and house. we need a physical beast athletic player as a 3rd guy off of Maxey and Embiid that doesn't interfere with there two man game.
A guy who gets boards, helps in transition ,plays high end defense, lob target ... **** we lack rn
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Post#482 » by phillynative » Sat Dec 16, 2023 3:22 am

Keldon johnson would be nice he can play the 2 or 3. I would prefer him at the 2 he can play on and off the ball, he's explosive and has some experience as a 1st option, and a nice all around game.

What concerns me is his defense especially with his physical toolkit. He gets beat off the dribble too much and his instincts are a little off there. Maybe if Nick Nurse got his hands on him could turn him into a defender. But may be too much of a risk.
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Post#483 » by 76ciology » Sat Dec 16, 2023 6:00 am

ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:The injuries are piling up in Cleveland. Garland has a fractured jaw and Evan Mobley is going for knee surgery. Both could come back and play again this season, but that will depend on how well Cleveland stays afloat without them. A lot of their fanbase is ready to trade Mitchell and tank the season away for a high draft pick. If they do go that route, do we become players for Donovan Mitchell?

Some obvious points;
-He's not the best fit with Maxey as he's a bit undersized for a 2-guard. Then again we're already playing Melton in that spot.

-We'd be committed to his salary over the next few years which some would hate.

- There's also an argument to be made that Mitchell would take away from Maxey the same way he has with Darius Garland. I personally think Garland is on the same level as Trae Young once he gets full control of that Cavs offense. Mitchell and Garland have overlapped at times and it could happen here with Maxey as well. Still, It's Donovan Mitchell and we've all seen what he can do when he gets on a heater.


As usual, my response would be.. you can’t run a 2 combo guard 6’2”-6’3” backcourt without having a double big at the 4&5, because it would take a lot of length to make up in rotating with those two.

You also have to factor that you either lose all our wing depth or our only decent PF in Tobias for that trade.

Lastly, I find Mitchell’s heart is in Brooklyn or New York.
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Post#484 » by MoeGreene » Sat Dec 16, 2023 6:02 am

Where's Theo Ratliff these days?

LeonJordanJr24 wrote:We got wings that play D and score in offensive flow in Melton and Oubre and got forwards who play their roles in Batum,cov,Morris and house. we need a physical beast athletic player as a 3rd guy off of Maxey and Embiid that doesn't interfere with there two man game.
A guy who gets boards, helps in transition ,plays high end defense, lob target ... **** we lack rn
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Post#485 » by Wilfried » Sat Dec 16, 2023 12:14 pm

LeonJordanJr24 wrote:We got wings that play D and score in offensive flow in Melton and Oubre and got forwards who play their roles in Batum,cov,Morris and house. we need a physical beast athletic player as a 3rd guy off of Maxey and Embiid that doesn't interfere with there two man game.
A guy who gets boards, helps in transition ,plays high end defense, lob target ... **** we lack rn


Could Markannen be that guy (a bit)?

Really would think he's an upgrade over Tobias as a scorer, rebounder, ... and he seems to be more of a physical dude at the 4.

Defensively, the number show him being pretty underrated, but probably not as versatile as Tobias?

Try to get him (and deal with Ainge :-)) for Marcus Morris, Furkan + pick(s)

Just don't know if the 18 million for '24-'25 that Markannen is paid, will block us from getting another FA this summer (looking at OG)?
Maybe throw in Paul Reed (Utah was interested this summer)?

24-25 season

Maxey
OG
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Post#486 » by zaz102 » Sat Dec 16, 2023 2:46 pm

The Athletic had an article where they said the Pistons could target Tobias Harris.

Would something along the lines of this work?

Bogdanovic / Burks / Morris
for
Harris / Korkmaz / Martin

All expirings except Bogdanovic who has only a partial guarantee next year.

Pistons get Harris and get to kick the tires on Kork and KJ.

Sixers get a better fit (if they get OG or Markannen), and get a backup PG that could also play with Maxey.
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Post#487 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Sat Dec 16, 2023 3:03 pm

zaz102 wrote:The Athletic had an article where they said the Pistons could target Tobias Harris.

Would something along the lines of this work?

Bogdanovic / Burks / Morris
for
Harris / Korkmaz / Martin

All expirings except Bogdanovic who has only a partial guarantee next year.

Pistons get Harris and get to kick the tires on Kork and KJ.

Sixers get a better fit (if they get OG or Markannen), and get a backup PG that could also play with Maxey.


I know he's not doing much at the moment for us, but KJ Martin is 22 years old and is a prime candidate for a player that eventually is groomed into a solid, athletic 3&D player in this league. I think trading him or Springer right now would be incredibly foolish unless it's for a star player. I realize I may be overvaluing our younger players, but I'm just worn out on us giving away young talent that eventually goes on to blossom elsewhere.

Martin, Reed, Springer should remain Sixers in my opinion. Covington, Batum, Morris, Korkmaz, and Beverly will all be gone after this season. We're going to need guys to replace them. Martin and Springer both stand to benefit from those guys leaving if they can just hang on, soak in some experience, and work on their games in the meantime.
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Post#488 » by zaz102 » Sat Dec 16, 2023 3:27 pm

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zaz102 wrote:The Athletic had an article where they said the Pistons could target Tobias Harris.

Would something along the lines of this work?

Bogdanovic / Burks / Morris
for
Harris / Korkmaz / Martin

All expirings except Bogdanovic who has only a partial guarantee next year.

Pistons get Harris and get to kick the tires on Kork and KJ.

Sixers get a better fit (if they get OG or Markannen), and get a backup PG that could also play with Maxey.


I know he's not doing much at the moment for us, but KJ Martin is 22 years old and is a prime candidate for a player that eventually is groomed into a solid, athletic 3&D player in this league. I think trading him or Springer right now would be incredibly foolish unless it's for a star player. I realize I may be overvaluing our younger players, but I'm just worn out on us giving away young talent that eventually goes on to blossom elsewhere.

Martin, Reed, Springer should remain Sixers in my opinion. Covington, Batum, Morris, Korkmaz, and Beverly will all be gone after this season. We're going to need guys to replace them. Martin and Springer both stand to benefit from those guys leaving if they can just hang on, soak in some experience, and work on their games in the meantime.
I'm still not sold on KJ, but 100% agree with Springer. In addition to being a cap controlled salary, he would be a great fit with Maxey if he improves his shooting.
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Post#489 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Sat Dec 16, 2023 3:50 pm

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ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:
zaz102 wrote:The Athletic had an article where they said the Pistons could target Tobias Harris.

Would something along the lines of this work?

Bogdanovic / Burks / Morris
for
Harris / Korkmaz / Martin

All expirings except Bogdanovic who has only a partial guarantee next year.

Pistons get Harris and get to kick the tires on Kork and KJ.

Sixers get a better fit (if they get OG or Markannen), and get a backup PG that could also play with Maxey.


I know he's not doing much at the moment for us, but KJ Martin is 22 years old and is a prime candidate for a player that eventually is groomed into a solid, athletic 3&D player in this league. I think trading him or Springer right now would be incredibly foolish unless it's for a star player. I realize I may be overvaluing our younger players, but I'm just worn out on us giving away young talent that eventually goes on to blossom elsewhere.

Martin, Reed, Springer should remain Sixers in my opinion. Covington, Batum, Morris, Korkmaz, and Beverly will all be gone after this season. We're going to need guys to replace them. Martin and Springer both stand to benefit from those guys leaving if they can just hang on, soak in some experience, and work on their games in the meantime.
I'm still not sold on KJ, but 100% agree with Springer. In addition to being a cap controlled salary, he would be a great fit with Maxey if he improves his shooting.


Ok, hear me out on KJ...I am in no way saying that this is his ceiling as a player, but he's had moments where he's comparable to his father and to Shawn Marion. I could be seeing something that's not there, but I just hope we hold onto him for the time being. I do tend to do this with our younger players though. I was on the Shake train for years before we finally parted ways. Martin has proved that he can play in this league. He's done it on bad teams, but he has shown that he does belong. He clearly needs to improve his three-point shot if he's going to stick in this league and get any kind of meaningful minutes. That alone is my biggest concern with him making it in the NBA. He's got to be able to eventually stick that shot and I'd like it to happen while he's here with us. I said at the time that he'd be the biggest reward out of the Harden trade when all of this is said and done. Obviously I may be wrong, but I think Martin can play in the NBA. He's just a victim of depth right now on a very good team. Springer is going through the same thing. Put Springer on a bad team that needs a guard and he'd be putting up numbers.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#490 » by youngcrev » Sun Dec 17, 2023 3:03 pm

I think KJ only has a future spot on this team if we end up going the cap space route due to his small cap hold and the need to create depth/salary slots larger than the minimum.
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Post#491 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Sun Dec 17, 2023 4:37 pm

youngcrev wrote:I think KJ only has a future spot on this team if we end up going the cap space route due to his small cap hold and the need to create depth/salary slots larger than the minimum.


He'll slot in nicely as a role player if we do in fact to go "all in" next summer.
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Post#492 » by 76ciology » Sun Dec 17, 2023 5:56 pm

Wilfried wrote:
LeonJordanJr24 wrote:We got wings that play D and score in offensive flow in Melton and Oubre and got forwards who play their roles in Batum,cov,Morris and house. we need a physical beast athletic player as a 3rd guy off of Maxey and Embiid that doesn't interfere with there two man game.
A guy who gets boards, helps in transition ,plays high end defense, lob target ... **** we lack rn


Could Markannen be that guy (a bit)?

Really would think he's an upgrade over Tobias as a scorer, rebounder, ... and he seems to be more of a physical dude at the 4.

Defensively, the number show him being pretty underrated, but probably not as versatile as Tobias?

Try to get him (and deal with Ainge :-)) for Marcus Morris, Furkan + pick(s)

Just don't know if the 18 million for '24-'25 that Markannen is paid, will block us from getting another FA this summer (looking at OG)?
Maybe throw in Paul Reed (Utah was interested this summer)?

24-25 season

Maxey
OG
Oubre
Markannen
Embiid


Markannen would be the best option for now. But Ainge got like 15 first round picks for Gobert. And the whole league would inquire on Markannen, including the Nuggets, so.. price tag wise, i think we have a better chance to trade a 35 yo Steph Curry with Warriors going nowhere
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Post#493 » by M2J » Mon Dec 18, 2023 2:58 am

I think Philly would get outbid for Mitchell, and truth be told, I'm not sold he's the move.

I've been heavy on Lavine, because I know Morey is interested and I know he'll be cheaper. Like very cheap in terms of assets. Plus, I think he's less dribble heavy shooter than Mitchell. And adds to the athletic needs. Plus Mitchell won't be available this year, maybe next summer though.
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Post#494 » by mjkvol » Mon Dec 18, 2023 11:43 am

Then we sit tight until next summer. Making a dreadful desperation move like Lavine will destroy all the good work Morey did to put us in this situation, and I'm hoping that he's smart enough to realize that.
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Post#495 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Mon Dec 18, 2023 1:34 pm

mjkvol wrote:Then we sit tight until next summer. Making a dreadful desperation move like Lavine will destroy all the good work Morey did to put us in this situation, and I'm hoping that he's smart enough to realize that.


He is. I have complete faith in the guy. He'll make the right move.
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Post#496 » by youngcrev » Mon Dec 18, 2023 2:12 pm

zaz102 wrote:The Athletic had an article where they said the Pistons could target Tobias Harris.

Would something along the lines of this work?

Bogdanovic / Burks / Morris
for
Harris / Korkmaz / Martin

All expirings except Bogdanovic who has only a partial guarantee next year.

Pistons get Harris and get to kick the tires on Kork and KJ.

Sixers get a better fit (if they get OG or Markannen), and get a backup PG that could also play with Maxey.


Swap House for Martin to give the Sixers some breathing room under the tax.

Follow up with a Morris/picks for OG swap and you'd have an extremely well balanced team with a ton of depth and flexibility.
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Post#497 » by zaz102 » Mon Dec 18, 2023 2:18 pm

mjkvol wrote:Then we sit tight until next summer. Making a dreadful desperation move like Lavine will destroy all the good work Morey did to put us in this situation, and I'm hoping that he's smart enough to realize that.
I'm leaning toward Morey making a move. Doesn't it make a lot easier to sign their players if they make the this year instead of during the offseason (bird rights and what not)?
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Post#498 » by youngcrev » Mon Dec 18, 2023 2:20 pm

zaz102 wrote:
mjkvol wrote:Then we sit tight until next summer. Making a dreadful desperation move like Lavine will destroy all the good work Morey did to put us in this situation, and I'm hoping that he's smart enough to realize that.
I'm leaning toward Morey making a move. Doesn't it make a lot easier to sign their players if they make the this year instead of during the offseason (bird rights and what not)?


Yes. The cap space option would wreck their depth.
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Post#499 » by the_process » Mon Dec 18, 2023 2:36 pm

DET gets Draymond, Morris, Korkmaz, 26 GSW 1st lotto protected, 28 PHI 1st
GSW gets Bogdanovic, Tobias, and Bagley
PHI gets Wiggins, Paul, and Hayes
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Post#500 » by youngcrev » Mon Dec 18, 2023 3:35 pm

youngcrev wrote:
zaz102 wrote:The Athletic had an article where they said the Pistons could target Tobias Harris.

Would something along the lines of this work?

Bogdanovic / Burks / Morris
for
Harris / Korkmaz / Martin

All expirings except Bogdanovic who has only a partial guarantee next year.

Pistons get Harris and get to kick the tires on Kork and KJ.

Sixers get a better fit (if they get OG or Markannen), and get a backup PG that could also play with Maxey.


Swap House for Martin to give the Sixers some breathing room under the tax.

Follow up with a Morris/picks for OG swap and you'd have an extremely well balanced team with a ton of depth and flexibility.


Just laying out the rotation after this...

Maxey
Melton
Anunobi
Batum
Embiid

Our starting unit has been crushing as it is, and I think OG gives you a guy that can do most of the things Tobias does, while being a more willing shooter and an elite defender.

And then you'd have a bench of Bojan Bogdanovic, Kelly Oubre, Monte Morris, Paul Reed, Robert Covington, Alec Burks, Pat Beverley... :o

Obviously the bench shrinks once you get to the playoffs, and Nurse would have some work to do in terms of keeping guys alive, but that type of depth makes load management a whole lot easier during the regular season.

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