2013-2014 College Basketball / '14 NBA Draft Thread

[ZarcMumoff]

I'd say Gordon is just as good an athlete as Griffin is. The thing with Griffin though is he's a **** bull. He's got 30 pounds of muscle on Gordon.

Both of their freshmen seasons...
Griffin: 14.7 PPG, 9.1 RPG, 0.8 BPG, 29.3 PER
Gordon: 12.4 PPG, 8.0 RPG, 1.0 BPG, 20.9 PER

Gordon is by far the superior defender though.

[76ciology]

Aaron Gordon is one of the players that I really dont have a feel for one way or the other. Not sure if he is going to be a terrible bust, and not sure he wont be a star. I tend to believe he will be a super role player/non-scorer type. I tend to believe the 76ers already have that in Nerlens Noel. I'm not sure how that would look on the court together, so its hard for me to get excited about drafting Gordon.

Not being facetious or anything. What is it that you see in Gordon that you believe the 76erd would need, if they already have Noel and Wiggins?

For me, I think Gordon will be similar to guys like a post prime version of Kmart or AK47.

It's really hard to have these kind of unconventional guys like Gordon. For me, he's best suited for a team that has a handful of scorers and lack of athletic high motor guys, such as the Nets or the Knicks.

For me, I think it would be nice to look at on paper the line-up of MCW-Wiggins-Thad-Gordon-Noel. That's five long athletic guys who can guard multiple positions. The problem would be on the offensive end, where the team would rely on MCW's scoring inefficiency, Wiggins' lack of motor on offense and Thad's mediocre but efficient scoring.

I think Gordon allows us to have the unconventional line-up of two tweeners at the SF-PF positions. Gordon gives us a much needed rebounding and defensive help to mask Thad's deficiency of defense at the PF position. Our opponents might abuse Thad at the post, but we will be long and athletic enough to provide quick defensive rotations or create havoc at the passing lanes. Having MCW, Gordon and Wiggins should also help Thad's weakness in grabbing the boards.

On paper, I think the defensive potential is pretty much similar to what you saw from the USA team or from how the Heat is running their defensive system. There's a lot of switching, trapping (double teaming) and pressuring to force TOs.

At the offensive end, that is going to be ugly. You've got poor to average shooters at the PG to PF positions to space out the floor. And you don't have a pure scorer or atleast a guy who you can revolve your offense with.

[Mik317]

Gordon only really makes sense for us if we take Parker...as Parker's shooting will make up for Gordon's lack thereof and Gordon's Defense will do the same for Parker....but even then.

I am rather tired of taking guys that need to learn how to shoot because it seems like it take them damn near 5-6 seasons to even become mediocre.

[Mik317]

However my guess is that whoever or Pelicans pick ends up being...they will probably come off the bench for the first year anyway.

[LloydFree]

For an old man Adrian Payne has some hops

Adrien Payne will be one of the 14 best players from this draft. Old man or not. Whether he gets drafted in the lottery, I don't know, but he should.

[PhilasFinest]

For an old man Adrian Payne has some hops

On top of his hops, he has a very well rounded game too.....including a jumper out to the 3PT line.

I know we all want home run swings, and rightfully so.....but Payne could be a great fit at the 4 next to Noel.

[PhilasFinest]

Gordon only really makes sense for us if we take Parker...as Parker's shooting will make up for Gordon's lack thereof and Gordon's Defense will do the same for Parker....but even then.

I am rather tired of taking guys that need to learn how to shoot because it seems like it take them damn near 5-6 seasons to even become mediocre.

Gordon makes sense in every sentence if he's being paired with our top pick.

don't see that happening tho....he won't last past 8 imo.

[freshie2]

There will be talent with the second pick, Gordon or otherwise. Draft for upside and length...Will be interesting to see who they get.

[SparksFly87]

Gordon only really makes sense for us if we take Parker...as Parker's shooting will make up for Gordon's lack thereof and Gordon's Defense will do the same for Parker....but even then.

I am rather tired of taking guys that need to learn how to shoot because it seems like it take them damn near 5-6 seasons to even become mediocre.

Yes. This is what I believed for a long time when pertains to drafting. Gordon . He is a glue guy for a scorer like Parker . They fit together seamless. The only better combo in the draft would be a Wiggins with Randle or Vonleh in terms maximum value and production. I feel if you draft Parker . Gordan is a necessity because of his defensive versatility and athleticism . Also with his skill sets to do the dirty defensive work and off ball ability.

[dbodner]

Gordon "only makes sense" if you believe he is the best available talent at your draft position.

[sixers23]

Gordon "only makes sense" if you believe he is the best available talent at your draft position.

Not true. If we get Parker and they have like McDermott ranked 1 spot ahead if Gordon you gotta take Gordon

[FlightBrothers]

Would you rather have a dominant frontcourt (Embiid/Noel) or that stud 2/3 player in Wiggins

I keep going back and forth on this.. While I see the league favoring stars more like Wiggins, I really think Embiid barring health could be a dynamic game changing player this league has not seen in some time from a center...

Would it be easier to then find those 2 and 3's to build with Noel/Embiid

or the 3s and 4s to build with Wiggins and Noel...

In full discolsure I go back and forth on these two all the time, but I am thinking now it might be easier to build around a Noel/Embiid core with a point guard such as MCW

Maybe you add a Young, Lavine, Aaron Harrison around them and see who can grow into the role...Let them all compete against each other for that spot...

Embiid just really intrigues me. I would just build him up slowly by not playing him in back to backs his first year to adapt to the increase his body will need to endure with more games in the NBA

[Skates]

Gordon "only makes sense" if you believe he is the best available talent at your draft position.

Not true. If we get Parker and they have like McDermott ranked 1 spot ahead if Gordon you gotta take Gordon

That makes no sense. If a team has two guys on ther draft board and one has a higher grade from their own pre-draft evaluation and scouting, why would they have to take the lower ranked guy? I could see if the rankings were close and one fit a position of need better, but at this point the entire Sixers team is a position of need. What you are really saying is that you rank Gordon above McDermott, nothing more or less.

The other route Gordon could definitely take if his offense doesn't really materialize is to become a Rodman without the insanity. With his body, athleticism, defensive instincts and nose for the ball, Gordon could become a complete shutdown defender and super-rebounder who can score in transition and off garbage buckets and lobs. I see Gordon having a fairly high floor for this reason, defense translates and there is always a need for it. It is how how his actual ceiling is that mystifies me.

[Negrodamus]

Gordon "only makes sense" if you believe he is the best available talent at your draft position.

Not true. If we get Parker and they have like McDermott ranked 1 spot ahead if Gordon you gotta take Gordon

Like I said before, teams aren't C&P rankings of players from draft websites. They do their own evaluations and set up a big board. If McDermott is ranked ahead of Gordon, the team will take McDermott because he's their BPA.

[sixers23]

Gordon "only makes sense" if you believe he is the best available talent at your draft position.

Not true. If we get Parker and they have like McDermott ranked 1 spot ahead if Gordon you gotta take Gordon

That makes no sense. If a team has two guys on ther draft board and one has a higher grade from their own pre-draft evaluation and scouting, why would they have to take the lower ranked guy? I could see if the rankings were close and one fit a position of need better, but at this point the entire Sixers team is a position of need. What you are really saying is that you rank Gordon above McDermott, nothing more or less.

The other route Gordon could definitely take if his offense doesn't really materialize is to become a Rodman without the insanity. With his body, athleticism, defensive instincts and nose for the ball, Gordon could become a complete shutdown defender and super-rebounder who can score in transition and off garbage buckets and lobs. I see Gordon having a fairly high floor for this reason, defense translates and there is always a need for it. It is how how his actual ceiling is that mystifies me.

bc certain guys cant play together parker and mcdermott on the same team is an defensive nightmare

[steveb21]

So McAdoo declared for the draft. Does anyone have a feel for where he'll go? I wouldn't mind if we can package a couple of our 2nd round picks if he falls to late in the first round. He doesn't strike me as star level talent but he has a nice all around game.

[sixers23]

mcadoo wont go in the 1st. i think he could be a solid role player in the 2nd round with his athleticism. he is a better role player instead of a go to guy which is why i think he fits in the nba better than at college.

im all for bpa but you gotta draw the line somewhere. if we draft exum with out pick you cant go picking ennis with the pelicans pick than payton with our 2nd rounder lol

[Agnostifarian]

Gordon "only makes sense" if you believe he is the best available talent at your draft position.

Not true. If we get Parker and they have like McDermott ranked 1 spot ahead if Gordon you gotta take Gordon

That makes no sense. If a team has two guys on ther draft board and one has a higher grade from their own pre-draft evaluation and scouting, why would they have to take the lower ranked guy? I could see if the rankings were close and one fit a position of need better, but at this point the entire Sixers team is a position of need. What you are really saying is that you rank Gordon above McDermott, nothing more or less.

The other route Gordon could definitely take if his offense doesn't really materialize is to become a Rodman without the insanity. With his body, athleticism, defensive instincts and nose for the ball, Gordon could become a complete shutdown defender and super-rebounder who can score in transition and off garbage buckets and lobs. I see Gordon having a fairly high floor for this reason, defense translates and there is always a need for it. It is how how his actual ceiling is that mystifies me.

I really like the Rodman comparison! If that is what Gordon can be then I'd take him over Smart and even Randle. Defense comes to play every game if effort is applied consistently.

[Bling76]

"Mystifying" is a good way to describe Gordon. His blend of tools and skills is so unique that it's really hard to project him as a pro. He strikes me as a high risk/high reward guy, but he will likely fall in between our two picks anyway.

[sixers23]

I think Gordon is probably a safer bet than most tho bc who couldn't use an athletic freak and lockdown defender