The Official Fire Doc Rivers Thread

M2J · Post #501 » by **M2J** » Mon May 16, 2022 8:49 am

Like I've said several times in this thread.

Chris Paul, even at this prime was a number 2 or 3 option for a title team.

Booker should be a 2nd option as well. Ayton a 4th.

My point being. Nobody underachieved with that guy.

In the future there will be a similar narrative on Monte with a bunch of Internet folks listing the names of the players they coached rather than the context of it. Not truly having the best team.

76ciology · Post #502 » by **76ciology** » Mon May 16, 2022 3:46 pm

Embiid P wrote:
76ciology wrote:Month Williams a good coach? No championship. His team got a 2-0 lead and ended up playing embarrassingly bad in game 7.

Not that it matters much, but I'd still take Monty over Doc any day.

Not that it matters much, but I’d take Doncic over Embiid any day. Mavs would have been eliminated and we’d be in ECF.

mjkvol · Post #503 » by **mjkvol** » Mon May 16, 2022 10:44 pm

76ciology wrote:
Embiid P wrote:
76ciology wrote:Month Williams a good coach? No championship. His team got a 2-0 lead and ended up playing embarrassingly bad in game 7.

Not that it matters much, but I'd still take Monty over Doc any day.

Not that it matters much, but I’d take Doncic over Embiid any day. Mavs would have been eliminated and we’d be in ECF.

I don't think it's outrageous or even a knock on Embiid to say you'd rather have Doncic or Giannis, especially the way the game is played today.

In 1980 or even 1990 that might have been a different story.

Iverson Armband · Post #504 » by **Iverson Armband** » Mon May 16, 2022 11:33 pm

mjkvol wrote:
76ciology wrote:
Embiid P wrote:
Not that it matters much, but I'd still take Monty over Doc any day.

Not that it matters much, but I’d take Doncic over Embiid any day. Mavs would have been eliminated and we’d be in ECF.

I don't think it's outrageous or even a knock on Embiid to say you'd rather have Doncic or Giannis, especially the way the game is played today.

In 1980 or even 1990 that might have been a different story.

Doncic, Giannis, and Tatum (because of how the game is played) would be my short list over Embiid

76ciology · Post #505 » by **76ciology** » Tue May 17, 2022 3:04 am

mjkvol wrote:
76ciology wrote:
Embiid P wrote:
Not that it matters much, but I'd still take Monty over Doc any day.

Not that it matters much, but I’d take Doncic over Embiid any day. Mavs would have been eliminated and we’d be in ECF.

I don't think it's outrageous or even a knock on Embiid to say you'd rather have Doncic or Giannis, especially the way the game is played today.

In 1980 or even 1990 that might have been a different story.

Its not just style of play. It’s mostly about availability.

Will he play tonight?
Which version of Embiid will we have?

I dont mind Embiid as long as he gives 100% every game. If he can’t then load management his way in reg season and save it for the playoffs.

Mik317 · Post #506 » by **Mik317** » Tue May 17, 2022 4:14 am

the recency bias is nuts

Biid's injuries this year weren't the normal wear and tear ones that load management would have solved. Not sure why you are dying on that hill. He broke his face on an elbow and this thumb got stuck in a jersey. That can happen in game 1 or game 82.

I also think this was Biid's most consistent season of his career in terms of the ups and downs....his bad games were often still 20 and 10 nights.

ALso think there are other ways to "save yourself" for the playoffs than taking games off. Biid himself said he doesn't think it was the right choice and it keeps him in shape.

Zumramania · Post #507 » by **Zumramania** » Tue May 17, 2022 8:39 am

"Ime Udoka will be the third guy since 2016 to leave an assistant gig on the Sixers' bench and make a conference finals in the first two years of their head coaching gig."

Turns out we had options...

mjkvol · Post #508 » by **mjkvol** » Tue May 17, 2022 1:08 pm

Zumramania wrote:"Ime Udoka will be the third guy since 2016 to leave an assistant gig on the Sixers' bench and make a conference finals in the first two years of their head coaching gig."

Turns out we had options...

Reminds me of when the Ravens hired Harbaugh. My first thought was "we kept the wrong guy".

Reid, Brown, Rivers, etc. - why in this town are we always seemingly obligated to keep coaches that don't get the job done, that are just "good enough"?

It's always "well, who you gonna get?" as if there are no other possible options. And yet solid, progressive organizations always seem to find those guys with fresh, forward thinking ideas, usually right from under our nose.

rzzzzz · Post #509 » by **rzzzzz** » Tue May 17, 2022 1:12 pm

76ciology wrote:I dont mind Embiid as long as he gives 100% every game. If he can’t then load management his way in reg season and save it for the playoffs.

Tearing his thumb is what’s most worrisome to me. Seems so arbitrary. Was it wear and tear? Too much force on a single dunk? Otherwise, when Biid is doing the airplane celebration in such a hostile environment 30 points up at the end of a game, Doc has got to know to take him out before he get’s accidentally elbowed in the eye. Coach has got to be in the moment. I do agree with Jo’s concern that we need a couple of scrappers to clean the glass and not get pushed around.

The thing is we were cooked in game 7 when Danny went down. Who did we have on our woeful bench to replace him?

76ciology · Post #510 » by **76ciology** » Tue May 17, 2022 5:21 pm

Which one of you is this guy

Read on Twitter

will · Post #511 » by **will** » Wed May 18, 2022 10:33 pm

Add Morey to the thread title.

eyeatoma · Post #512 » by **eyeatoma** » Wed May 18, 2022 10:47 pm

will wrote:Add Morey to the thread title.

Create a separate thread then.

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will · Post #513 » by **will** » Thu May 19, 2022 7:18 pm

eyeatoma wrote:
will wrote:Add Morey to the thread title.
Create a separate thread then.

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Negrodamus · Post #514 » by **Negrodamus** » Fri May 20, 2022 8:18 pm

Read on Twitter

mjkvol · Post #515 » by **mjkvol** » Fri May 20, 2022 8:36 pm

Negrodamus wrote:

Read on Twitter

It seems inevitable. Not my first choice, but I'd be fine with it, especially getting picks from L.A.

Negrodamus · Post #516 » by **Negrodamus** » Fri May 20, 2022 8:37 pm

mjkvol wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:

Read on Twitter

It seems inevitable. Not my first choice, but I'd be fine with it, especially getting picks from L.A.

I can't believe a team would pay to have Doc, but it is the Lakers.

FireMorey · Post #517 » by **FireMorey** » Fri May 20, 2022 8:40 pm

It's not happening. People are just believing things they want to be true and are in denial. Rivers will be back. As he should be.

Mik317 · Post #518 » by **Mik317** » Sat May 21, 2022 2:34 am

don't know about the as he should be but MDA is just Doc with a fancy offense at the end of the day...has many of the same flaws as a coach.

76ciology · Post #519 » by **76ciology** » Sat May 21, 2022 5:36 am

I dont like MDA. MDA is worse than Doc.

If you think Doc is bad at adjusting (which he shown to be great at in 2022 playoffs), MDA is worse

MDA and Morey are guys who tries to figure out how to play with the highest payoff in general then just run it even if the situation says its not the highest payoff.

Im just not a fan of small ball and micro ball. It was a powerful scheme back when everyone was playing big. But nowadays it’s less powerful with everyone incorporating a quicker and more versatile roster.

M2J · Post #520 » by **M2J** » Sat May 21, 2022 8:19 am

Mik317 wrote:the recency bias is nuts

Biid's injuries this year weren't the normal wear and tear ones that load management would have solved. Not sure why you are dying on that hill. He broke his face on an elbow and this thumb got stuck in a jersey. That can happen in game 1 or game 82.

I also think this was Biid's most consistent season of his career in terms of the ups and downs....his bad games were often still 20 and 10 nights.

ALso think there are other ways to "save yourself" for the playoffs than taking games off. Biid himself said he doesn't think it was the right choice and it keeps him in shape.

Given this thread.... Do we give Rivers any credit for Joel's consistency that he didn't have before? What about excuses for the injuries to this man amongst others? Not to mention the excuse of just not having a real title team after the trade for Harden.