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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#501 » by the_process » Thu Dec 29, 2022 3:24 am

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SixthStreet wrote:Porzingis is a good Tobias target. But not sure what the Wizards are doing and if they even want to trade him.


If Porzingis couldn’t work with Doncic, he definitely won’t work with Embiid and Harden.


That's because Porzingis can't anchor a defense against playoff offenses. Here he's the secondary rim protector and weak side shot blocker. I think he'd be a force on defense next to Embiid. On offense bomb 30 footers like a modern day Ryan Anderson.


What I meant was he wants the ball. He didn’t jell playing with Luka because of how ball dominant Luka is. He will not take well to being a 3rd option who is primarily getting catch and shoot opportunities.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#502 » by LeTimmAy » Thu Dec 29, 2022 7:32 pm

Furk and Matisse for either nerlens Noel or mo bamba. Make it happen.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#503 » by youngcrev » Fri Dec 30, 2022 4:33 pm

LA Clippers
In: Nic Vucevic and Korkmaz
Out: Zubac and Robert Covington

Clips spend some more of Balmer's money to upgrade their center spot.

Chicago Bulls
In: Zubac, Shake Milton, Thybulle
Out: Vucevic and Dragic

Bulls get a younger, defensive backup 5 that's locked up contractually. Milton might start and they've had interest in Thybulle in the past.

Philadelphia 76ers
In: Robert Covington and Dragic
Out: Thybulle, Shake Milton and Korkmaz

Get back Covington to potentially start and also help out with the backup 5 spot. Dragic gives them a veteran backup point that could fill in as needed off the bench.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#504 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Fri Dec 30, 2022 5:01 pm

LeTimmAy wrote:Furk and Matisse for either nerlens Noel or mo bamba. Make it happen.


Preferably Bamba. We could also look at Issac.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#505 » by youngcrev » Fri Dec 30, 2022 5:22 pm

ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:
LeTimmAy wrote:Furk and Matisse for either nerlens Noel or mo bamba. Make it happen.


Preferably Bamba. We could also look at Issac.


Love the idea of Isaac as a player here, but he makes enough money where you'd have to give up a lot of depth for a major injury risk.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#506 » by davesilver » Sat Dec 31, 2022 12:02 am

Here's a good one, although y'all will hate me for trading Maxey. I really feel that Utah is a perfect trade partner (although who wants to deal with Ainge):

Tobias, Maxey, Thybulle, Reed, '29 1RP, '23 SRP
for
Lauri, Clarkson, Vanderbilt, Olynyk

Harden Melton PJ Lauri Embiid
Clarkson Milton House Vanderbilt Olynyk

Lauri is shooting 44% from 3 this season, and averages another 2 rebounds/36 than Tobias. He also has a better FTA / game (as opposed to Tobias' ~1.5). Not to mention Vanderbilt would be a legitimate piece off the bench (also helps w/rebounding). Finally, Olynyk would be an ideal backup for Embiid, with the obvious help from a 6MOY from Clarkson)! Nobody wants to trade Maxey, but you do it for a substantail increase in championship odds (23% per 538/tied for 1st with Boston).

for the Jazz
Sexton Maxey Beasley Harris Kessler
Conley NAW Thybulle Agbaji Reed

Sexton/Maxey would be extremely exciting to watch tbh, not to mention a blue chip guy in Maxey and that '29 FRP.

I think this trade solves our issues in rebounding and offense. I think we could be a legit top 2 in net rating.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#507 » by the_process » Sat Dec 31, 2022 4:53 am

davesilver wrote:Here's a good one, although y'all will hate me for trading Maxey. I really feel that Utah is a perfect trade partner (although who wants to deal with Ainge):

Tobias, Maxey, Thybulle, Reed, '29 1RP, '23 SRP
for
Lauri, Clarkson, Vanderbilt, Olynyk

Harden Melton PJ Lauri Embiid
Clarkson Milton House Vanderbilt Olynyk

Lauri is shooting 44% from 3 this season, and averages another 2 rebounds/36 than Tobias. He also has a better FTA / game (as opposed to Tobias' ~1.5). Not to mention Vanderbilt would be a legitimate piece off the bench (also helps w/rebounding). Finally, Olynyk would be an ideal backup for Embiid, with the obvious help from a 6MOY from Clarkson)! Nobody wants to trade Maxey, but you do it for a substantail increase in championship odds (23% per 538/tied for 1st with Boston).

for the Jazz
Sexton Maxey Beasley Harris Kessler
Conley NAW Thybulle Agbaji Reed

Sexton/Maxey would be extremely exciting to watch tbh, not to mention a blue chip guy in Maxey and that '29 FRP.

I think this trade solves our issues in rebounding and offense. I think we could be a legit top 2 in net rating.


Love it.

Except by my count, it’s about two unprotected 1sts short of starting the conversation.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#508 » by davesilver » Sat Dec 31, 2022 2:21 pm

the_process wrote:
davesilver wrote:Here's a good one, although y'all will hate me for trading Maxey. I really feel that Utah is a perfect trade partner (although who wants to deal with Ainge):

Tobias, Maxey, Thybulle, Reed, '29 1RP, '23 SRP
for
Lauri, Clarkson, Vanderbilt, Olynyk

Harden Melton PJ Lauri Embiid
Clarkson Milton House Vanderbilt Olynyk

Lauri is shooting 44% from 3 this season, and averages another 2 rebounds/36 than Tobias. He also has a better FTA / game (as opposed to Tobias' ~1.5). Not to mention Vanderbilt would be a legitimate piece off the bench (also helps w/rebounding). Finally, Olynyk would be an ideal backup for Embiid, with the obvious help from a 6MOY from Clarkson)! Nobody wants to trade Maxey, but you do it for a substantail increase in championship odds (23% per 538/tied for 1st with Boston).

for the Jazz
Sexton Maxey Beasley Harris Kessler
Conley NAW Thybulle Agbaji Reed

Sexton/Maxey would be extremely exciting to watch tbh, not to mention a blue chip guy in Maxey and that '29 FRP.

I think this trade solves our issues in rebounding and offense. I think we could be a legit top 2 in net rating.


Love it.

Except by my count, it’s about two unprotected 1sts short of starting the conversation.


Not sure if I completely agree value-wise

From an asset point of view:
Maxey >= Lauri
Thybulle + 1st >= Vanderbilt
Reed = Olynyk
Tobias + 2nd = Clarkson
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#509 » by phillynative » Sat Dec 31, 2022 3:06 pm

the_process wrote:
davesilver wrote:Here's a good one, although y'all will hate me for trading Maxey. I really feel that Utah is a perfect trade partner (although who wants to deal with Ainge):

Tobias, Maxey, Thybulle, Reed, '29 1RP, '23 SRP
for
Lauri, Clarkson, Vanderbilt, Olynyk

Harden Melton PJ Lauri Embiid
Clarkson Milton House Vanderbilt Olynyk

Lauri is shooting 44% from 3 this season, and averages another 2 rebounds/36 than Tobias. He also has a better FTA / game (as opposed to Tobias' ~1.5). Not to mention Vanderbilt would be a legitimate piece off the bench (also helps w/rebounding). Finally, Olynyk would be an ideal backup for Embiid, with the obvious help from a 6MOY from Clarkson)! Nobody wants to trade Maxey, but you do it for a substantail increase in championship odds (23% per 538/tied for 1st with Boston).

for the Jazz
Sexton Maxey Beasley Harris Kessler
Conley NAW Thybulle Agbaji Reed

Sexton/Maxey would be extremely exciting to watch tbh, not to mention a blue chip guy in Maxey and that '29 FRP.

I think this trade solves our issues in rebounding and offense. I think we could be a legit top 2 in net rating.


Love it.

Except by my count, it’s about two unprotected 1sts short of starting the conversation.


Interesting .
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#510 » by ProcessDoctor » Sat Dec 31, 2022 3:44 pm

Trade Thybulle+ for another forward since the backcourt rotation seems to be saturated with our 4 guards and Thybulle isn't a 3.

Harden(32)/Milton(12)/Maxey(4)
Melton(28)/Maxey(20)
______(28)/Niang(20)/Tucker(8)
Harris(32)/Tucker(16)
Embiid(32)/Harrell(16)

List of remotely realistic targets to consider:

Toppin
Covington (makes $12+ mil, tough to salary match)
Crowder (most realistic)
DFS or Bullock (buy-low candidates)
OPJ (injury-riddled)
Prince (having a down year)
2025-2026 Philadelphia 76ers:

Maxey/McCain/Lowry
Edgecombe/Grimes/Gordon
George/Oubre/Edwards
Watford/Barlow/Walker
Embiid/Drummond/Bona/Broome
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#511 » by phillynative » Sat Dec 31, 2022 3:45 pm

Sixers : - Tobias, Shake, Reed, 23'SRP
FOR
Pelicans : - Ingram,Hernangomez,H.Jones

Matisse and Furk for Coby White and Derrick Jones Jr

Sixere get longer , more athletic with improved playmaking. Pelicans get Tobias who fits in between CJ & Zion better than Ingram . Another ball handler w. size in Shake. Bulls get their wing defender in Matisse and shooter off the bench.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#512 » by ProcessDoctor » Sat Dec 31, 2022 3:47 pm

We'd have to part with Maxey in any Ingram trade.
2025-2026 Philadelphia 76ers:

Maxey/McCain/Lowry
Edgecombe/Grimes/Gordon
George/Oubre/Edwards
Watford/Barlow/Walker
Embiid/Drummond/Bona/Broome
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#513 » by the_process » Sat Dec 31, 2022 8:17 pm

Star wings are the hardest thing to find, and it's what every team is looking for.

Positional scarcity means you basically have to double whatever objective price you think one of those players is worth just to get their team to consider moving them.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#514 » by the_process » Sun Jan 1, 2023 7:41 am

davesilver wrote:
the_process wrote:
davesilver wrote:Here's a good one, although y'all will hate me for trading Maxey. I really feel that Utah is a perfect trade partner (although who wants to deal with Ainge):

Tobias, Maxey, Thybulle, Reed, '29 1RP, '23 SRP
for
Lauri, Clarkson, Vanderbilt, Olynyk

Harden Melton PJ Lauri Embiid
Clarkson Milton House Vanderbilt Olynyk

Lauri is shooting 44% from 3 this season, and averages another 2 rebounds/36 than Tobias. He also has a better FTA / game (as opposed to Tobias' ~1.5). Not to mention Vanderbilt would be a legitimate piece off the bench (also helps w/rebounding). Finally, Olynyk would be an ideal backup for Embiid, with the obvious help from a 6MOY from Clarkson)! Nobody wants to trade Maxey, but you do it for a substantail increase in championship odds (23% per 538/tied for 1st with Boston).

for the Jazz
Sexton Maxey Beasley Harris Kessler
Conley NAW Thybulle Agbaji Reed

Sexton/Maxey would be extremely exciting to watch tbh, not to mention a blue chip guy in Maxey and that '29 FRP.

I think this trade solves our issues in rebounding and offense. I think we could be a legit top 2 in net rating.


Love it.

Except by my count, it’s about two unprotected 1sts short of starting the conversation.


Not sure if I completely agree value-wise

From an asset point of view:
Maxey >= Lauri
Thybulle + 1st >= Vanderbilt
Reed = Olynyk
Tobias + 2nd = Clarkson


What’s Utah’s motivation? Why do they want the Sixers players being offered? Why would they want to trade the players being shipped out in this deal?

I don’t think they have any motivation to get this deal done.

Therefore I think the best way to evaluate this is to assume Utah wants an unprotected first round pick or equivalent for all four of their guys plus another for taking Tobias’ salary. That’s enough value to at least get their attention, but not saying they’ll actually do it.

Maxey is one. Another was in the deal. Thybulle, Reed, and the 2nd combined could be another. So two short to start the conversation.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#515 » by youngcrev » Sun Jan 1, 2023 8:38 pm

I actually think that's a good deal for the Jazz and wouldn't do it on our end. They have been a fun story, but that team isn't going anywhere. Maxey would be a better rebuilding piece than anything they have.

Lauri is having a great year, but I don't think he'd look nearly as good next to Embiid and Harden. I don't think he'd provide much more than Harris does offensively in this setting and is a worse defender.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#516 » by the_process » Mon Jan 2, 2023 9:17 pm

youngcrev wrote:I actually think that's a good deal for the Jazz and wouldn't do it on our end. They have been a fun story, but that team isn't going anywhere. Maxey would be a better rebuilding piece than anything they have.

Lauri is having a great year, but I don't think he'd look nearly as good next to Embiid and Harden. I don't think he'd provide much more than Harris does offensively in this setting and is a worse defender.


They already have Maxey-lite in Collin Sexton. And they are too good to get in the Wemby race now.

If I’m Utah; I’m selling Conley, Beasley, and Gay. Cheap. And then building out with what’s left.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#517 » by the_process » Mon Jan 2, 2023 9:20 pm

IND gets Springer and Korkmaz
LAC gets Bitadze and Thybulle
PHI gets Covington

Sixers might have to sign someone before they make this trade due to minimum roster requirements? I’m also assuming Cov can still play on the wing, he hasn’t done it in awhile I believe.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#518 » by youngcrev » Mon Jan 2, 2023 9:57 pm

the_process wrote:
youngcrev wrote:I actually think that's a good deal for the Jazz and wouldn't do it on our end. They have been a fun story, but that team isn't going anywhere. Maxey would be a better rebuilding piece than anything they have.

Lauri is having a great year, but I don't think he'd look nearly as good next to Embiid and Harden. I don't think he'd provide much more than Harris does offensively in this setting and is a worse defender.


They already have Maxey-lite in Collin Sexton. And they are too good to get in the Wemby race now.

If I’m Utah; I’m selling Conley, Beasley, and Gay. Cheap. And then building out with what’s left.


Sexton isn't good enough for that to matter
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#519 » by the_process » Tue Jan 3, 2023 1:33 am

youngcrev wrote:
the_process wrote:
youngcrev wrote:I actually think that's a good deal for the Jazz and wouldn't do it on our end. They have been a fun story, but that team isn't going anywhere. Maxey would be a better rebuilding piece than anything they have.

Lauri is having a great year, but I don't think he'd look nearly as good next to Embiid and Harden. I don't think he'd provide much more than Harris does offensively in this setting and is a worse defender.


They already have Maxey-lite in Collin Sexton. And they are too good to get in the Wemby race now.

If I’m Utah; I’m selling Conley, Beasley, and Gay. Cheap. And then building out with what’s left.


Sexton isn't good enough for that to matter


Well, agree to disagree.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#520 » by the_process » Tue Jan 3, 2023 1:41 am

Reddish, Rose, Fournier, DAL 1st via NYK, and CHA 2nd via PHI to CHA
Harris to NYK
Hayward and Washington to PHI

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