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Re: Celtics @ Sixers - Preseason Game 2 

Post#521 » by ajones9219 » Mon Oct 9, 2017 2:10 am

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How so? Jaylen Brown was pretty awful at Cal as a freshman and was a significantly negative performer as a rookie. Expecting him to make a huge leap in year two is far-fetched. At his current development trajectory, you're probably looking at year 3 (optimistic) or year 4 (more probable) before he's a plus performer.

Jayson Tatum had a medicore impact at Duke as a freshman against <22 year olds. Now he's going to be playing against men. He's just as likely to be pitiful as a rookie as Brandon Ingram was in Los Angeles this year.

The only young player on your roster that I think is due to break into being a positive asset on the court is Terry Rozier. Whos' impact will probably be minimum, anyway.


Brown showed more than a few flashes of start potential last season and Tatum was injured. Once he healed up he beasted for his last few months. I know this is a Sixers board but ignoring either part just shows ignorance to both players (I don't believe you're trolling just didn't watch enough of either player)


So, were you high on Tatum before the 1-3 trade? Or, are you only high on him now that he is on your roster?


I was high on Fultz, Tatum, and Jackson. I liked fultz the most but back before we got the first pick I said as l 'lllong as we get top 3 I'd be happy. I think asll three are going to be great players. Not high on ball at all

Edit: jeez autocorrect hates Fultz lol
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Re: Celtics @ Sixers - Preseason Game 2 

Post#522 » by theo42 » Mon Oct 9, 2017 3:01 am

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Gant wrote:It was reported last winter that the Celtics never wanted Cousins, no doubt for personality reasons.

They did go hard after Durant during free agency and George at least a couple of times. They ended up with Irving. The much older Paul wouldn't make sense.

They picked up Horford for nothing, and Hayward for giving up Olynyk and trading Bradley for Morris.

Their young guys are better than is speculated in this thread. Their vets are much better.

Boston's greatest weakness last season, rebounding, will be greatly improved this year. They're effectively bigger as they've added height and versatility at all the smaller spots, and are much stronger physically. They're really in a great position for years to come as LeBron either leaves the East next summer or finally peaks and diminishes.


Here's what the Celtics have done in recent years, with plenty of ammo left to make the next big move:

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The Celtics didn’t get Horford for nothing. They got him up for max salary space.

That’s my point. They decided to spend their resources in a way that didn’t result in a superstar while multiple superstars changed teams.

I’m a big Ainge fan actually, but he blew it. He had tremendous salary flexibility, and draft assets and he didn’t produce a superstar out of it.




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I would put Kyrie in the Superstar category personally.
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Re: Celtics @ Sixers - Preseason Game 2 

Post#523 » by LordCovington33 » Mon Oct 9, 2017 3:22 am

theo42 wrote:
Ericb5 wrote:
Gant wrote:It was reported last winter that the Celtics never wanted Cousins, no doubt for personality reasons.

They did go hard after Durant during free agency and George at least a couple of times. They ended up with Irving. The much older Paul wouldn't make sense.

They picked up Horford for nothing, and Hayward for giving up Olynyk and trading Bradley for Morris.

Their young guys are better than is speculated in this thread. Their vets are much better.

Boston's greatest weakness last season, rebounding, will be greatly improved this year. They're effectively bigger as they've added height and versatility at all the smaller spots, and are much stronger physically. They're really in a great position for years to come as LeBron either leaves the East next summer or finally peaks and diminishes.


Here's what the Celtics have done in recent years, with plenty of ammo left to make the next big move:

Read on Twitter


The Celtics didn’t get Horford for nothing. They got him up for max salary space.

That’s my point. They decided to spend their resources in a way that didn’t result in a superstar while multiple superstars changed teams.

I’m a big Ainge fan actually, but he blew it. He had tremendous salary flexibility, and draft assets and he didn’t produce a superstar out of it.




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I would put Kyrie in the Superstar category personally.


A superstar should be top 5 in the league. Irving is borderline top 20.
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Re: Celtics @ Sixers - Preseason Game 2 

Post#524 » by TTP » Mon Oct 9, 2017 3:24 am

theo42 wrote:
Ericb5 wrote:
Gant wrote:It was reported last winter that the Celtics never wanted Cousins, no doubt for personality reasons.

They did go hard after Durant during free agency and George at least a couple of times. They ended up with Irving. The much older Paul wouldn't make sense.

They picked up Horford for nothing, and Hayward for giving up Olynyk and trading Bradley for Morris.

Their young guys are better than is speculated in this thread. Their vets are much better.

Boston's greatest weakness last season, rebounding, will be greatly improved this year. They're effectively bigger as they've added height and versatility at all the smaller spots, and are much stronger physically. They're really in a great position for years to come as LeBron either leaves the East next summer or finally peaks and diminishes.


Here's what the Celtics have done in recent years, with plenty of ammo left to make the next big move:

Read on Twitter


The Celtics didn’t get Horford for nothing. They got him up for max salary space.

That’s my point. They decided to spend their resources in a way that didn’t result in a superstar while multiple superstars changed teams.

I’m a big Ainge fan actually, but he blew it. He had tremendous salary flexibility, and draft assets and he didn’t produce a superstar out of it.




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I would put Kyrie in the Superstar category personally.


I'm not sure Kyrie is a top 25 player, much less a superstar. He's very talented, but he hasn't been able to transform those talents into the team production that his reputation would lead one to believe. Maybe Brad is able to fix that problem - we'll see soon.
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Re: Celtics @ Sixers - Preseason Game 2 

Post#525 » by 76ciology » Mon Oct 9, 2017 3:29 am

If Fultz plays in game 3, hope he learns from Irving in how to finish around the rim.

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Re: Celtics @ Sixers - Preseason Game 2 

Post#526 » by LloydFree » Mon Oct 9, 2017 3:59 am

Kyrie is no superstar. If Lebron James never goes back to Cleveland, Kyrie is looked at as no better than Damon Lillard, if that. There are about 6-7 true superstars in the league at any given time. The NBA has just gotten better at promoting the player's into star status.
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Celtics @ Sixers - Preseason Game 2 

Post#527 » by Ericb5 » Mon Oct 9, 2017 4:05 am

theo42 wrote:
Ericb5 wrote:
Gant wrote:It was reported last winter that the Celtics never wanted Cousins, no doubt for personality reasons.

They did go hard after Durant during free agency and George at least a couple of times. They ended up with Irving. The much older Paul wouldn't make sense.

They picked up Horford for nothing, and Hayward for giving up Olynyk and trading Bradley for Morris.

Their young guys are better than is speculated in this thread. Their vets are much better.

Boston's greatest weakness last season, rebounding, will be greatly improved this year. They're effectively bigger as they've added height and versatility at all the smaller spots, and are much stronger physically. They're really in a great position for years to come as LeBron either leaves the East next summer or finally peaks and diminishes.


Here's what the Celtics have done in recent years, with plenty of ammo left to make the next big move:

Read on Twitter


The Celtics didn’t get Horford for nothing. They got him up for max salary space.

That’s my point. They decided to spend their resources in a way that didn’t result in a superstar while multiple superstars changed teams.

I’m a big Ainge fan actually, but he blew it. He had tremendous salary flexibility, and draft assets and he didn’t produce a superstar out of it.




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I would put Kyrie in the Superstar category personally.


Kyrie thinks he is in the superstar category too, but I don’t think so. He is probably the best penetrator and ball handler in the league, and can be a dominant scorer, but I don’t think any team with him as the best player is going to contend.

His value was maximized playing with Lebron, and I don’t expect him to be better after leaving Lebron. I think he is a notch better than IT, but not a superstar.

The reason that he switched teams though is because he believes that he is a superstar and can carry a team. We will just have to see over the next 3 years if he can do it. It isn’t impossible in my mind, but I think it is very unlikely.

He is one of my favorite players in the league to watch.

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