Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho

[DCasey91]

I think Fox and Maxey are a compatible, if not optimal, backcourt. If we trade Simmons for Fox, I'm sure Doc's closing lineup will include both.

Compatible at being a horrendous backcourt yes sure.

I mean seriously a zero defensive perimeter gets you nowhere.

It's better than Maxey/Curry. Lol

So first round to second round exit ceiling cool no thanks.

We are fine as is

Just do Maxey/Green/Niang/Thybulle and Embiid when he comes back.

[Tomjas]

Having watched the game today, I hope that you guys now realise that my rejection of a Simmons-Fox trade isn’t pro Simmons

It’s anti Fox

Do not want unless it comes with a boatload of other assets that can all be moved elsewhere

He’s just not that good

[Jhawk03]

Having watched the game today, I hope that you guys now realise that my rejection of a Simmons-Fox trade isn’t pro Simmons

It’s anti Fox

Do not want unless it comes with a boatload of other assets that can all be moved elsewhere

He’s just not that good

The same goes for Simmons, perhaps a change of scenery would work for both?

[76ciology]

Having watched the game today, I hope that you guys now realise that my rejection of a Simmons-Fox trade isn’t pro Simmons

It’s anti Fox

Do not want unless it comes with a boatload of other assets that can all be moved elsewhere

He’s just not that good

The same goes for Simmons, perhaps a change of scenery would work for both?

Morey rule #1: We’re not allowed to do any trade where we dont get atleast a top 3 player in return

[Kobblehead]

Ya'll see Haliburton last night against us?

33 minutes and 0 points. Yikes.

[GWPhilly34]

Maxey has earned his spot IMO. There are only a few guys worthy of playing over him in this league and we aren’t getting them for Simmons. Curry is doing unbelievable things too. I’ve been saying it but small forward is the position to try and upgrade. Ingram I believe is the perfect fit that isn’t a pipe dream.

[sixers4real]

Halliburton and Fox suck.
Simmons and Maxey are better. If Maxey is not better as a player then Fox, he is absolutely better as an an asset right now.

Morey is not dealing with Sacramento, no way.

[the_process]

Ya'll see Haliburton last night against us?

33 minutes and 0 points. Yikes.

He still goes really well in a long term backcourt pairing with Maxey.

[Kolkmania]

Maxey has earned his spot IMO. There are only a few guys worthy of playing over him in this league and we aren’t getting them for Simmons. Curry is doing unbelievable things too. I’ve been saying it but small forward is the position to try and upgrade. Ingram I believe is the perfect fit that isn’t a pipe dream.

Do you really think that Ingram is available? They should tank this year (aka sit Zion as long as possible) and try to draft another stud. That core will have enough talent to rise to the upper echelons of the West.

A Zion and Simmons combo doesn't make any sense, so if Ingram is available a third team should be involved.

[Kolkmania]

Maxey is doing great. But he's nowhere near to the level of a number 1b option on a championship team yet. His passiveness and hesitancy to shoot from deep are limiting his impact right now.

His trajectory is so impressive though, that I wouldn't include him in "any" deal, but my main priority remains a volume perimeter scorer. Whether that's a wing or a guard doesn't matter to me.

[Sixerscan]

Maxey has earned his spot IMO. There are only a few guys worthy of playing over him in this league and we aren’t getting them for Simmons. Curry is doing unbelievable things too. I’ve been saying it but small forward is the position to try and upgrade. Ingram I believe is the perfect fit that isn’t a pipe dream.

Do you really think that Ingram is available? They should tank this year (aka sit Zion as long as possible) and try to draft another stud. That core will have enough talent to rise to the upper echelons of the West.

A Zion and Simmons combo doesn't make any sense, so if Ingram is available a third team should be involved.

Feels like

Sixers get Ingram
Minny or the Kings get Simmons
Pelicans get Fox or Russell +whatever nominal assets from the third team and/or the Sixers as needed

makes as much sense as any fake 3 way trade in recent memory. Wolves and Kings could use what Simmons brings, Pelicans could use a guard and assets that won't mess up a potential tank. I could see them talking themselves into Russell being a better fit with Zion, or just saying Fox is good and despite the shooting him and Zion on the break would be very effective.

Obviously 3 way trades are hard to predict but seems like there's something there.

[Murray_17]

Ya'll see Haliburton last night against us?

33 minutes and 0 points. Yikes.

He still goes really well in a long term backcourt pairing with Maxey.

He also took 5 shots and had 9 assists.

His role is diminished with Mitchell and Fox

[Sixerscan]

Ya'll see Haliburton last night against us?

33 minutes and 0 points. Yikes.

He still goes really well in a long term backcourt pairing with Maxey.

He also took 5 shots and had 9 assists.

His role is diminished with Mitchell and Fox

Thybulle also locked him up most of the game. He's a good young player, that wasn't a representative game for him.

[Stanford]

He also has a 2+ Steal % and a 2+ Block %, so he's basically a god

[Murray_17]

He also has a 2+ Steal % and a 2+ Block %, so he's basically a god

But are those Fox level, defensive numbers?

[seventy6ers]

Last night's game solidified for me that Maxey and Fox are the same type of player. Trading Ben for Fox would not be the help that we are looking for. We definitely need wing help and as stated above by other posters, Ingram would be the pipe dream. Morey should figure out how to make that happen. Obviously, a third team would have to be involved.

[Sixersftw]

I think Ingram is the logical end to this but then we need to turn our attention to trading Tobi from a fit perspective. Ingram and Tobi both stop the ball and I think we can't have 3 of those guys in the starting lineup (sometimes 4 when Seth is on one).

[Murray_17]

I think Ingram is the logical end to this but then we need to turn our attention to trading Tobi from a fit perspective. Ingram and Tobi both stop the ball and I think we can't have 3 of those guys in the starting lineup (sometimes 4 when Seth is on one).

The emergence of Maxey is already making Tobi kind of redundant. Having two "all i do is score" guys who fight for being the second or third scoring option is a bit inefficient.

That contract is still too big and has too much years left on it to be tradeable, unless you dump him on OKC, Orlando or Houston i don't see how we trade him. That would also probably cost one or more firsts.

The early we could realistically trade Tobias is probably the next offseason when some of the stupid deals given this season start to weight on teams and when Tobias is closer to becoming a expiring

[Sixersftw]

I think Ingram is the logical end to this but then we need to turn our attention to trading Tobi from a fit perspective. Ingram and Tobi both stop the ball and I think we can't have 3 of those guys in the starting lineup (sometimes 4 when Seth is on one).

The emergence of Maxey is already making Tobi kind of redundant. Having two "all i do is score" guys who fight for being the second or third scoring option is a bit inefficient.

That contract is still too big and has too much years left on it to be tradeable, unless you dump him on OKC, Orlando or Houston i don't see how we trade him. That would also probably cost one or more firsts.

The early we could realistically trade Tobias is probably the next offseason when some of the stupid deals given this season start to weight on teams and when Tobias is closer to becoming a expiring

I agree with everything contractually. That's why I tried to keep it to "fit perspective" because I know the contract is untradeable for at least the rest of the season.

Its weird. I don't know if redundant is the write word but Its frustrating because Maxey, a 2nd year player, plays, in separate ways, how I wish Ben and Tobi played for years now.. Straight line drive off of a running start thanks to a screen/staggered screens for Ben, and quick decisive moves instead of pounding the ball for 18 seconds for Tobi.

I do have some hope that BI could do more here btw. He's played on putrid teams but has shown some glimpses at playmaking and solid defense. Particularly early on with LA.

[the_process]

If there’s one team that desperately needs Ben Simmons… it’s Sacramento.

NOP gets Thybulle and Fox
PHI gets Ingram, Barnes, and Bagley
SAC gets Harris and Simmons