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Quick stat snapshot of where the Sixers are after 3 games
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No time bruh. TL;DR?
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Arsenal wrote:
No time bruh. TL;DR?
Stanford wrote:phillynative wrote:Footnotes would be highly appreciated my guys
When asked about backup center minutes, Morey said they're comfortable with the 3 guys they have:
PJ
Reed
Desmond
Notable absence
Murray_17 wrote:He also agrees with assessments of irregularity and says is the biggest issue the team faces, he says that this stretch is gonna work to evaluate that aspect. He touts our record against elite teams, so he thinks march is gonna be the crucial month to evaluate where we stands in our odds.
Doubling early in the clock and leaving shooters open, he says, is something that happens because players are freelancing and doc is trying to address it, is not part of the scheme. At the same time, they try to ecourage players to go by instinct sometimes so the defense doesn't get too schematic.
He also agrees with our issues rebounding, is part of what McDaniels addresses, he says that Melton looks like an elite rebounder with us because of it.(lol)
We're gonna try to resign McDaniels in the offseason too.
McClung was already being discussed as a two-way contract before getting the dunk contest invitation.
Springer is likely gonna be a rotation player next season, Doc is pretty excited about his defensive ability.
He says they received several offers for PJ in the trade deadline, which proves he's still highly valuated around the league.
Some other interesting stuff about defense and switching or how teams use data wrong, but i think that's the more important talk about the team
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Murray_17 wrote:Arsenal wrote:
No time bruh. TL;DR?Stanford wrote:phillynative wrote:Footnotes would be highly appreciated my guys
When asked about backup center minutes, Morey said they're comfortable with the 3 guys they have:
PJ
Reed
Desmond
Notable absenceMurray_17 wrote:He also agrees with assessments of irregularity and says is the biggest issue the team faces, he says that this stretch is gonna work to evaluate that aspect. He touts our record against elite teams, so he thinks march is gonna be the crucial month to evaluate where we stands in our odds.
Doubling early in the clock and leaving shooters open, he says, is something that happens because players are freelancing and doc is trying to address it, is not part of the scheme. At the same time, they try to ecourage players to go by instinct sometimes so the defense doesn't get too schematic.
He also agrees with our issues rebounding, is part of what McDaniels addresses, he says that Melton looks like an elite rebounder with us because of it.(lol)
We're gonna try to resign McDaniels in the offseason too.
McClung was already being discussed as a two-way contract before getting the dunk contest invitation.
Springer is likely gonna be a rotation player next season, Doc is pretty excited about his defensive ability.
He says they received several offers for PJ in the trade deadline, which proves he's still highly valuated around the league.
Some other interesting stuff about defense and switching or how teams use data wrong, but i think that's the more important talk about the team
Yup, also mentioned they thought the team was doing well with Melton as the starter so they stuck with it. They want to grow Maxey and feel that he has more opportunity to have the ball in his hands off the bench. Did not say this is a long term thing with Maxey coming off the bench.
There was a reference to the 3 starting lineups, but it was more that Morey just laughed at it. Sounds like Doc was talking out of his ass.
He also mentioned that he wants more PnR, but it's not that simple. Teams that switch the PnR, makes it ineffective, and at that point it's about finding the mismatch which is why it can be janky at times.
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I knew we were fat but I thought we were also shorter. Wondering if adding 6'9 McDaniels and 6'11 Dedmon boosted us to the middle pack in average height.
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At 34-37 minute mark
They talked about the bodner article of why Sixers always blows up big lead
He talked about between two teams a team that is superiorly talent and fritters big lead or a team that is mediocre “johnny try hard” and win by 6 by tons of effort, you want to be the talented team that fritters big lead
Morey talked about how he talked with another Gm who was tanking (my guess is rafael stone) who told him that its actually good because “when you get to the playoffs you will have an extra gear and all the teams that wins the title has an extra gear”
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I’d rather the third team: a team that’s disciplined enough to maintain the big lead with excellent defense while still being prolific on offense. That’s also what championship teams do.
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Highest turnover frequency as the pick-and-roll ballhandler (min 5 PnR/g):
1. Westbrook: 25.0 TOV%
2. Harden: 21.8%
3. Beal: 18.34%
4. Conley: 18.3%
5. Kevin Porter Jr.: 18.2%
6. Clarkson: 17.8%
7. Giddey: 17.4%
8. DLo: 17.14%
9. Poole: 17.1%
10. Trae: 16.4%
1. Westbrook: 25.0 TOV%
2. Harden: 21.8%
3. Beal: 18.34%
4. Conley: 18.3%
5. Kevin Porter Jr.: 18.2%
6. Clarkson: 17.8%
7. Giddey: 17.4%
8. DLo: 17.14%
9. Poole: 17.1%
10. Trae: 16.4%
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I know we've all heard too much about this death stretch, but damn this is really the next 6 games:
MEM
BOS
MIA
MIA
DAL
MIL
Then it lets up for a few weeks before coming back to this 6-game stretch:
PHX
DEN
DAL
TOR
MIL
BOS
Bout to be a lot of tests for the whole rest of the RS.
MEM
BOS
MIA
MIA
DAL
MIL
Then it lets up for a few weeks before coming back to this 6-game stretch:
PHX
DEN
DAL
TOR
MIL
BOS
Bout to be a lot of tests for the whole rest of the RS.
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HotelVitale wrote:I know we've all heard too much about this death stretch, but damn this is really the next 6 games:
MEM
BOS
MIA
MIA
DAL
MIL
Then it lets up for a few weeks before coming back to this 6-game stretch:
PHX
DEN
DAL
TOR
MIL
BOS
Bout to be a lot of tests for the whole rest of the RS.
We need Maxey to wake up to his 20-22ppg self prior to his injury and lead that bench.
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Brogdon-White dropped around 40pts off the bench, against the Pacers.
Maxey and Milton should be able to do the same. That for me is the remaining step in our development.
Maxey and Milton should be able to do the same. That for me is the remaining step in our development.
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Doc Rivers talked about 3 starting line-ups?
Current starting
Harden-Melton-tobias-tucker-biid = +9 NetRtg
Line-up 2
Harden-Maxey-tobias-tucker-biid = +17 NetRtg
Line-up 3
Harden-Melton-tobias-Niang-biid = +28 NetRtg
Bonus
Harden-Maxey-Melton-Tobias-Tucker = +13 NetRtg <= probably why Morey mentioned Tucker as back-up C
Small sample size but promising.
Maxey-Milton-Niang-McDaniels-Reed
3 games +17 NetRtg <= we need to develop this unit to lower number of close games
*looks like Maxey has been a great +/- player the last 5-10 games. Thats what we need from him.
Current starting
Harden-Melton-tobias-tucker-biid = +9 NetRtg
Line-up 2
Harden-Maxey-tobias-tucker-biid = +17 NetRtg
Line-up 3
Harden-Melton-tobias-Niang-biid = +28 NetRtg
Bonus
Harden-Maxey-Melton-Tobias-Tucker = +13 NetRtg <= probably why Morey mentioned Tucker as back-up C
Small sample size but promising.
Maxey-Milton-Niang-McDaniels-Reed
3 games +17 NetRtg <= we need to develop this unit to lower number of close games
*looks like Maxey has been a great +/- player the last 5-10 games. Thats what we need from him.
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If they go at least 4-2 on each trip and 3-2 against MIL/BOS/DEN, then I'll start believing.HotelVitale wrote:I know we've all heard too much about this death stretch, but damn this is really the next 6 games:
MEM
BOS
MIA
MIA
DAL
MIL
Then it lets up for a few weeks before coming back to this 6-game stretch:
PHX
DEN
DAL
TOR
MIL
BOS
Bout to be a lot of tests for the whole rest of the RS.
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76ciology wrote:Highest turnover frequency as the pick-and-roll ballhandler (min 5 PnR/g):
1. Westbrook: 25.0 TOV%
2. Harden: 21.8%
3. Beal: 18.34%
4. Conley: 18.3%
5. Kevin Porter Jr.: 18.2%
6. Clarkson: 17.8%
7. Giddey: 17.4%
8. DLo: 17.14%
9. Poole: 17.1%
10. Trae: 16.4%
The interesting part about the Sixers' pick and roll is that is they really only look to score out of it when the roller (i.e., Embiid) gets the ball. They're 25th in possessions ended by the P&R ball handler but 1st in possessions ended by the roll man. So yeah it makes sense that Harden's TOV% would be high, since he's mostly just looking to pass or reset out of it.
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Sixerscan wrote:The interesting part about the Sixers' pick and roll is that is they really only look to score out of it when the roller (i.e., Embiid) gets the ball. They're 25th in possessions ended by the P&R ball handler but 1st in possessions ended by the roll man. So yeah it makes sense that Harden's TOV% would be high, since he's mostly just looking to pass or reset out of it.
This is something discussed in the last Thinking Basketball pod about Harden.
Basically, Embiid scoring efficiency goes bananas when Harden is on the line up with him and Harden scoring goes down at the level of averaging 12 points or something like that, i don't remember the number that well. This because Harden basically acts as a hub for an Embiid-centric offense.
Harden goes bananas once Embiid is out of the line up.
So basically Harden raises our floor but the ceiling is on Joel.
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I hope that they let Harden cook in the playoffs when needed. Need to set egos aside if they want to contend.Murray_17 wrote:Sixerscan wrote:The interesting part about the Sixers' pick and roll is that is they really only look to score out of it when the roller (i.e., Embiid) gets the ball. They're 25th in possessions ended by the P&R ball handler but 1st in possessions ended by the roll man. So yeah it makes sense that Harden's TOV% would be high, since he's mostly just looking to pass or reset out of it.
This is something discussed in the last Thinking Basketball pod about Harden.
Basically, Embiid scoring efficiency goes bananas when Harden is on the line up with him and Harden scoring goes down at the level of averaging 12 points or something like that, i don't remember the number that well. This because Harden basically acts as a hub for an Embiid-centric offense.
Harden goes bananas once Embiid is out of the line up.
So basically Harden raises our floor but the ceiling is on Joel.
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Quick snapshot of where the Sixers are right now:
They should've traded Maxey at the trade deadline, because if that's what you're going to get from him with your bench units against the team between you and the NBA Championship, you need somebody better.
They should've traded Maxey at the trade deadline, because if that's what you're going to get from him with your bench units against the team between you and the NBA Championship, you need somebody better.
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Ferry Avenue wrote:Quick snapshot of where the Sixers are right now:
They should've traded Maxey at the trade deadline, because if that's what you're going to get from him with your bench units against the team between you and the NBA Championship, you need somebody better.
Morey assembled a bunch of spare used parts for the bench and hoped they would fit. I dont think he put much thought into what the sixers were up against vs the celtics, bucks and nets(before the blowup). Maxey on the other hand seems to struggle to get into rhythm against set defenses which he will be up against in the playoffs going up against the bucks and or celtics.
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Ferry Avenue wrote:Quick snapshot of where the Sixers are right now:
They should've traded Maxey at the trade deadline, because if that's what you're going to get from him with your bench units against the team between you and the NBA Championship, you need somebody better.
Back in February of 2018, a 21 year old Jaylen Brown went 2-9 for just 5 points in 32 minutes against the Celtic rival Cavs (a team that they couldn't get past in the playoffs). You don't trade your homegrown studs. You allow them to bloom.




