76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1
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Is Maxey all but a lock for all-star team this season?
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76ciology wrote:PhillyFan11 wrote:76ciology wrote:Cant waste assets on a small trade because its likely the last big trade of the Embiid era.
I don’t think trading 2/3 2nd’s for a guard to band-aid the rotation until something bigger happens is going to hurt anything. Obviously we are winning now so it’s not imperative, but that could change, or 1 injury could really tank things.
I dont mind trading 2 second rounders for caruso. Just dont touch any of our first rounder and i’d be OK.
Melton is Maxey’s closest friend on the team BTW. Entire team like Melton and trusts that he can get his shot back. I dont think we’ll give up on him easily.
Not saying give up on Melton. Just cut his role to where he belongs at 20-25 mins. And then cut the Korkmaz/Morris/whoever 5-10 mins and you’ve got around 15-20 mins in the rotation for a guard…which would greatly help.
Don’t know if you’re beating other offers for Caruso for just 2 2nd’s, but if you can get him for that then great. Even a guy like Delon Wright or Alec Burks would be a big boost. Like I said, just a band-aid type of player. I agree on not giving up legit assets unless it’s a major upgrade.
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zaz102 wrote:Is Maxey all but a lock for all-star team this season?
Well, someone has to replace Julius Randle
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At this point I don't think you do a thing to this team's roster. They're far too dominant right now to do any tweaking. That may change later on, but I wouldn't want to disturb what we're seeing here at all right now.
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I think an upgrade from Melton is warranted. He's just outclassed as a starter and best suited as a 3rd/4th guard.
Several guys in the $18-28 mil range we can target for expirings + one 1st or less. Derozan, Bojan, Brogdon, Hield, GTJ.
A few more that would cost multiple 1sts. Smart, Bridges, Keldon Johnson.
Several guys in the $18-28 mil range we can target for expirings + one 1st or less. Derozan, Bojan, Brogdon, Hield, GTJ.
A few more that would cost multiple 1sts. Smart, Bridges, Keldon Johnson.
2025-2026 Philadelphia 76ers:
Maxey/McCain/Lowry
Edgecombe/Grimes/Gordon
George/Oubre/Edwards
Watford/Barlow/Walker
Embiid/Drummond/Bona/Broome
Maxey/McCain/Lowry
Edgecombe/Grimes/Gordon
George/Oubre/Edwards
Watford/Barlow/Walker
Embiid/Drummond/Bona/Broome
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Fortunately, it would be hard for them (and other teams) to make a deal until January due to some of the trading rules. Gives them times to assess.
That being said, it's a weird spot. Feels like they have wings that could start and be part of the rotation with Harris, Batum, Oubre, Covington. Whereas guard is light. Doesn't look like Melton should start, nor do you want him to run the point when Maxey is out. Feels like they need to upgrade him, but at the same time, you would think it would be best to put a star forward next to their star guard and center.
Ideally to me, they could keep two of Batum, Covington, and Oubre and get a G /F that can handle the ball that's a playmaker that they can put in there when Maxey is out and also play off ball with Maxey.
That being said, it's a weird spot. Feels like they have wings that could start and be part of the rotation with Harris, Batum, Oubre, Covington. Whereas guard is light. Doesn't look like Melton should start, nor do you want him to run the point when Maxey is out. Feels like they need to upgrade him, but at the same time, you would think it would be best to put a star forward next to their star guard and center.
Ideally to me, they could keep two of Batum, Covington, and Oubre and get a G /F that can handle the ball that's a playmaker that they can put in there when Maxey is out and also play off ball with Maxey.
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Ferry Avenue wrote:At this point I don't think you do a thing to this team's roster. They're far too dominant right now to do any tweaking. That may change later on, but I wouldn't want to disturb what we're seeing here at all right now.
absolutely you have to ride this for a while and see what it looks like and what we need to add to it for the playoffs. I'm not sold on a third star as the big need, but the flexibility this roster gives us allows us to roll with the best 8-9 guys for the playoffs and sub in and out based on strengths. It's a good problem to have for once. This might be my favorite roster since Hinkie's last season.
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To me
Maxey
Melton
Oubre
Harris
Embiid
Batum
Cov
Beverly
Reed
should be locks in a PO rotation
This leave Morris (17M) , Korky (5M) , House (4) as 26M in expiring salaries and Martin/Spring as young develpoment guys to use in a trade for that "star" guard.
Personally my package would be Morris, Korky and one of Springer/Martin plus picks (of course) for an XXX guard.
It's about 25M in matching salaries.
Maxey
Melton
Oubre
Harris
Embiid
Batum
Cov
Beverly
Reed
should be locks in a PO rotation
This leave Morris (17M) , Korky (5M) , House (4) as 26M in expiring salaries and Martin/Spring as young develpoment guys to use in a trade for that "star" guard.
Personally my package would be Morris, Korky and one of Springer/Martin plus picks (of course) for an XXX guard.
It's about 25M in matching salaries.
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If the Clippers are a dumpster fire as this year progresses, do we consider keeping the future Clipper pick? Things are going well for us now and I’m reluctant to believe they will get much better with a trade.
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Negrodamus wrote:If the Clippers are a dumpster fire as this year progresses, do we consider keeping the future Clipper pick? Things are going well for us now and I’m reluctant to believe they will get much better with a trade.
They should always want to keep that pick in any negotiation. TRY
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We’ll see how things go. But I do think I’m more in favor of an eventual trade than some. All of these guys are going to be free agents at the end of the year. Batum could retire, Oubre might get a $20+ million a year from someone at this rate, who knows what’s happening with Tobias going forward. I don’t know how realistic replicating this kind of depth every year is especially with Maxey also making a ton going forward.
People point to Denver as this example that you don’t need a super team, which is true, but they also do have 3 guys on max contracts and no one on their bench makes over $5 million this year. Super teams may not be a thing anymore, but giving a lot of money to the top of your roster sure isn’t. It’s just important those guys at the top fit well together.
With that said, I think OG is close to a perfect 3rd guy between Maxey and Embiid. He’s even right between them age-wise. If you can trade for him before the deadline then, on top of just getting him for this year’s playoff run, you can sign him with bird rights, which would allow you to operate as an over the cap team and sign the other guys with their bird rights too. Signing him in the offseason would be fine too, though that requires you to basically let all of the free agents go and basically start over with building depth.
Obviously this requires Masai to actually sell off one of his guys for once but we’ll see.
People point to Denver as this example that you don’t need a super team, which is true, but they also do have 3 guys on max contracts and no one on their bench makes over $5 million this year. Super teams may not be a thing anymore, but giving a lot of money to the top of your roster sure isn’t. It’s just important those guys at the top fit well together.
With that said, I think OG is close to a perfect 3rd guy between Maxey and Embiid. He’s even right between them age-wise. If you can trade for him before the deadline then, on top of just getting him for this year’s playoff run, you can sign him with bird rights, which would allow you to operate as an over the cap team and sign the other guys with their bird rights too. Signing him in the offseason would be fine too, though that requires you to basically let all of the free agents go and basically start over with building depth.
Obviously this requires Masai to actually sell off one of his guys for once but we’ll see.
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Negrodamus wrote:If the Clippers are a dumpster fire as this year progresses, do we consider keeping the future Clipper pick? Things are going well for us now and I’m reluctant to believe they will get much better with a trade.
Is it 2028? The report was that Morey believes that Balmer could easily reload through free agency, and he ultimately doesn’t see the Clippers pick being a lottery pick. In addition, Morey might need to keep focused on short-term success. I don’t know that he is confident that he will last here until the summer of 2028 to use the pick.
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76ciology wrote:PhillyFan11 wrote:76ciology wrote:Cant waste assets on a small trade because its likely the last big trade of the Embiid era.
I don’t think trading 2/3 2nd’s for a guard to band-aid the rotation until something bigger happens is going to hurt anything. Obviously we are winning now so it’s not imperative, but that could change, or 1 injury could really tank things.
I dont mind trading 2 second rounders for caruso. Just dont touch any of our first rounder and i’d be OK.
Melton is Maxey’s closest friend on the team BTW. Entire team like Melton and trusts that he can get his shot back. I dont think we’ll give up on him easily.
Nor should he. I've been as frustrated with Melton's shooting as anyone, but decisions that are made based on tiny samples like this tend to be really bad ones that come back to bite you. Fortunately we have competent people in charge for the first time since Hinkie.
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kriss73 wrote:To me
Maxey
Melton
Oubre
Harris
Embiid
Batum
Cov
Beverly
Reed
should be locks in a PO rotation
This leave Morris (17M) , Korky (5M) , House (4) as 26M in expiring salaries and Martin/Spring as young develpoment guys to use in a trade for that "star" guard.
Personally my package would be Morris, Korky and one of Springer/Martin plus picks (of course) for an XXX guard.
It's about 25M in matching salaries.
I mostly agree, except for Tobi if there’s a “star” available. I’m all for a scoring upgrade to Tobi that can handle the ball at G/SF and playing a Batum/RoCo/Reed rotation at the 4…that’s still a massive upgrade over Tucker.
But we also couldn’t package Morris with anybody until Jan 1st. If Morey wants to add a guard before then (imo he should) it would have to be for Morris straight up or for Korkmaz + House. Which I don’t think that should be all too difficult
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I think Melton is better suited for the bench:
Maxey
O. G. Anunoby
Ombré
Harris
Embiid
would be championship favorites.
Maxey
O. G. Anunoby
Ombré
Harris
Embiid
would be championship favorites.
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PhillyNj wrote:I think Melton is better suited for the bench:
Maxey
O. G. Anunoby
Ombré
Harris
Embiid
would be championship favorites.
I agree Melton is bench player. But that lineup is not not enough ball handling /playmaking ability. Unless we have someone with those attributes that can sub in for Oubre.
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Skates wrote:OG should not cost what the Raps will ask for. Only under team control for half a year before a team has to pay him. I want him, but Masai will get someone to massively overpay and it should not be us.
Masai has been really good lately about letting his guys leave for nothing (or practically nothing).
I expect that trend to continue with OG.
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Negrodamus wrote:If the Clippers are a dumpster fire as this year progresses, do we consider keeping the future Clipper pick? Things are going well for us now and I’m reluctant to believe they will get much better with a trade.
That pick is burning a hole in Morey's pocket. He can't wait to spend it on a star.
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the_process wrote:Negrodamus wrote:If the Clippers are a dumpster fire as this year progresses, do we consider keeping the future Clipper pick? Things are going well for us now and I’m reluctant to believe they will get much better with a trade.
That pick is burning a hole in Morey's pocket. He can't wait to spend it on a star.
I just don’t see a player worthy of the pick coming available. Feels like OG will be an overpay. Brandon Ingram maybe (even though I find him a bit overrated too). Feels like an overpay for DeRozan. LaVine is bad fit here.
I guess we’re waiting for the Donovan Mitchell blowup?
I’d be fine with just targeting guys like Kyle Anderson or Buddy Hield.
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As always we are a nearly there team. A quality wing would be the final get imo.
Like Batum so far, whatever happens gonna be a fun reg season which hasn’t happened watching us since 2018 imo.
Like Batum so far, whatever happens gonna be a fun reg season which hasn’t happened watching us since 2018 imo.
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