SixerFan1976 Offseason Thread (Update Pg 73)

[uuaarrgh]

Hey Sixersfan1976,

is there any chance, we get Thomas Robinson (No.2 or No.3 pick)? Have we any interest in him? I like him and his game a lot!

Hornets offer their 10th and Okafor? Have we interest? We would get a defensive anchor with good work ethic and get a chance for Perry Jones, who could be the steal or the bust of the draft! We amnesty Brand, take Okafor's contract and get this pick!

Holiday/Turner/Jones/Robinson/Okafor

A very promising team!

[freshie2]

The Bargs part was for Gay. I bet if it's Andre, they package Jose instead. LOL

I just have to say this about this offseason: We have a LOT of options! We have a chance to do something big and put this team on track for an amazing future. OR it could all get screwed up. Let's hope the people getting the big bucks know what they are doing.

I agree, I also feel like if we trade iggy we would be goin backwards because ET hasn't been what we thought

How do you know you are going backwards without knowing what the return is? Each of he deals suggested with a top 10 pick may yield a true franchise big or scorer...is that a bad thing??

[mybestfiend]

Hey Sixersfan1976,

is there any chance, we get Thomas Robinson (No.2 or No.3 pick)? Have we any interest in him? I like him and his game a lot!

Hornets offer their 10th and Okafor? Have we interest? We would get a defensive anchor with good work ethic and get a chance for Perry Jones, who could be the steal or the bust of the draft! We amnesty Brand, take Okafor's contract and get this pick!

Holiday/Turner/Jones/Robinson/Okafor

A very promising team!

How are we gonna get Robinson and Jones without giving up ET or Turner? There's no way.

[jdimaggio555]

There's is no way the sixers get Thomas Robinson. But, I saw the 10th pick is for sale if someone would take Okafor or Ariza's contract. I like the idea of amnestying Brand and doing the deal. Then, send Iguodala to Tor. for #8 and Calderon. I know they wanted to include Davis and have the sixers throw in 15 but I would balk at that. This would give sixers 3 #1's and I would look to take Lamb, Henson, and RIvers.

Dru/ Calderon
Lamb/Rivers
ET/ Thad
Allen/ Hensen
Okafor/ Vucevic

After watching OKC play with a lineup of Westbrook, Fisher, Harden, Durant, and Perkins last night in the 4th quarter, I'd like to see the sixers go with a lineup where Dru, Rivers, Lamb, and ET are all playing at the same time.

[KrazySixersD]

I still think we can keep Iguodala, Jrue, and Turner and take a step forward this off-season. Unless you can swing a deal for someone like Bynum, I'd be hesitant to break that trio apart. They lock down the perimeter as good as any team in the NBA while making us one of the better transition teams in the league. That's a piece to a championship puzzle and I honestly believe we have enough young talent and cap flexibility outside of JIT to become a better, more well-rounded team this off-season.

If Brand gets amnestied, and we are unable to lure guys like Harden and Deron to Philly, then I'd make a strong push for Ryan Anderson and Asik. Two solid young big men that make us better on both sides of the ball. Anderson's shooting complements JIT perfectly and he's an underrated rebounder/scorer in the paint. Asik is a solid post defender who clogs the lane like few others can. They are the two guys I'd hope get strong consideration as they complement our core and actually make us a better team... Humphries and Kaman wouldn't be terrible contingency options.

Let Hawes walk

I would also let Lou walk if he opts out and see if Andre Miller/Hinrich want to run our 2nd unit for a low $ deal. If we have enough $ left, make a play for CJ Miles.

Holiday/Miller
Turner/Meeks
Iguodala/Miles
Anderson/Young/Allen
Asik/Vucevic

see im a big fan of something like this as well... people are acting like asik is nothing... do we forget how much he shut us down when he came in for noah?

dude is huge, thick, strong, rebounds, blocks shots, and doesnt get pushed around... id sign him in a heartbeat this offseason and go after a floor spreading 4 if we are keeping iguodala

[KrazySixersD]

I still think we can keep Iguodala, Jrue, and Turner and take a step forward this off-season. Unless you can swing a deal for someone like Bynum, I'd be hesitant to break that trio apart. They lock down the perimeter as good as any team in the NBA while making us one of the better transition teams in the league. That's a piece to a championship puzzle and I honestly believe we have enough young talent and cap flexibility outside of JIT to become a better, more well-rounded team this off-season.

If Brand gets amnestied, and we are unable to lure guys like Harden and Deron to Philly, then I'd make a strong push for Ryan Anderson and Asik. Two solid young big men that make us better on both sides of the ball. Anderson's shooting complements JIT perfectly and he's an underrated rebounder/scorer in the paint. Asik is a solid post defender who clogs the lane like few others can. They are the two guys I'd hope get strong consideration as they complement our core and actually make us a better team... Humphries and Kaman wouldn't be terrible contingency options.

Let Hawes walk

I would also let Lou walk if he opts out and see if Andre Miller/Hinrich want to run our 2nd unit for a low $ deal. If we have enough $ left, make a play for CJ Miles.

Holiday/Miller
Turner/Meeks
Iguodala/Miles
Anderson/Young/Allen
Asik/Vucevic

If Philly cannot make a bigger splash like you suggested, I would be OK with some of this, although Asik does little for me other than as a possible rotational big man. R. Anderson seems to be polarizing, but I like his game, particularly on this team as it is currently constituted. I think you have to be much better in the middle however, if you start JTI and Anderson. If you are going that route, I wonder what it would take to get M. Gortat from Phoenix. No stud by any stretch, but I'd much rather have him than Asik and I doubt that he would cost a mint.

i dont get why people dont see the potential in asik!?

if dude plays 30 mpg ... hes a 8 or 9 ppg 12 rpg 2bpg great post defending center

[KrazySixersD]

There's is no way the sixers get Thomas Robinson. But, I saw the 10th pick is for sale if someone would take Okafor or Ariza's contract. I like the idea of amnestying Brand and doing the deal. Then, send Iguodala to Tor. for #8 and Calderon. I know they wanted to include Davis and have the sixers throw in 15 but I would balk at that. This would give sixers 3 #1's and I would look to take Lamb, Henson, and RIvers.

Dru/ Calderon
Lamb/Rivers
ET/ Thad
Allen/ Hensen
Okafor/ Vucevic

After watching OKC play with a lineup of Westbrook, Fisher, Harden, Durant, and Perkins last night in the 4th quarter, I'd like to see the sixers go with a lineup where Dru, Rivers, Lamb, and ET are all playing at the same time.

they have durant at 6'11 to play PF... wont work with turner

[Gsraider]

i dont get why people dont see the potential in asik!?

if dude plays 30 mpg ... hes a 8 or 9 ppg 12 rpg 2bpg great post defending center

And I don't get the potential people see in Asik. He is pretty much what you see right now. Defensively, he has great size with pretty long arms, can block a few shots, and does play some good post defense. I would have no problem adding this guy to the rotation for those qualities alone. He looks like a trainwreck offensively to me though. He turns it over, cannot shoot much from the field or the FT line, and is pretty mechanical on that end.

I also get very nervous extrapolating what a guy can do when he plays 30 +/- mpg when he has been playing 12-15 mpg in general. It rarely translates. In the end, there are things that Asik does that could really help this team, but there are also some real deficiencies in his game as well. He might be a worthwhile grab, but it's equally a stretch to call him a difference maker.

[Kobblehead]

LMAO at Asik. He's the new Aaron Gray. When will people learn that big slug of garbage is big slug of garbage?

[jdimaggio555]

they have durant at 6'11 to play PF... wont work with turner[/quote]

Durant is 6'9. Turner held his ground when Garnett tried to post him up. In a matchup against MIami, this lineup would work. If Lavoy, Okafor, or whoever you put at center took Bosh, what other big man does Miami have that Turner couldn't hold his own against? This lineup would clearly not work against the whole league, but I believe it would against Miami.

[Mik317]

Asik has some nice hair tho so there's that.


I don't know if this FO wants 3 rookies on the team that needs to get big minutes...Doug can't hate everyone.

[KrazySixersD]

they have durant at 6'11 to play PF... wont work with turner

Durant is 6'9. Turner held his ground when Garnett tried to post him up. In a matchup against MIami, this lineup would work. If Lavoy, Okafor, or whoever you put at center took Bosh, what other big man does Miami have that Turner couldn't hold his own against? This lineup would clearly not work against the whole league, but I believe it would against Miami.[/quote]

durant is NOT 6'9... hes 6'11

asik is a great defensive center... not good, great

rebounds, plays post D, blocks shots, alters shots...

idk how on earth everyone complains ALL YEAR that we dont have that, and now that we can get that for probably 5 or 6 mill per... they dont want that...

unreal...

[ponder719]

durant is NOT 6'9... hes 6'11

The Oklahoma City Thunder seem to think Durant is 6'9".

http://www.nba.com/thunder/roster/2011

Num Player Pos Ht Wt DOB Prior to NBA/Country Yrs
35 Kevin Durant F 6-9 235 09/29/1988 Texas/USA 4

[Kobblehead]

durant is NOT 6'9... hes 6'11

asik is a great defensive center... not good, great

rebounds, plays post D, blocks shots, alters shots...

idk how on earth everyone complains ALL YEAR that we dont have that, and now that we can get that for probably 5 or 6 mill per... they dont want that...

unreal...

[KrazySixersD]

durant is NOT 6'9... hes 6'11

The Oklahoma City Thunder seem to think Durant is 6'9".

http://www.nba.com/thunder/roster/2011

Num Player Pos Ht Wt DOB Prior to NBA/Country Yrs
35 Kevin Durant F 6-9 235 09/29/1988 Texas/USA 4

sorry man, dont care what that says... they still list jrue at 180 pounds which was his weight coming out of ucla and dude has put on a ton of weight since then.. those things dont get updated

durant is easily 6'10 and i have heard MULTIPLE times on the tv where they said hes a confirmed 6'11

[KrazySixersD]

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Kevin-Durant-390/

draft express has him at 6'10.25 in shoes and that was after his freshman year at texas where he has grown atleast 3/4 an inch since then

so like i said... 6'11

[mybestfiend]

None of this matters. Turner cannot defend LeBron. That's that.

[Gsraider]

asik is a great defensive center... not good, great

rebounds, plays post D, blocks shots, alters shots...

idk how on earth everyone complains ALL YEAR that we dont have that, and now that we can get that for probably 5 or 6 mill per... they dont want that...

unreal...

Do you really need everyone to agree with you on everything? Asik absolutely provides things that Philly could use on the boards and defensively. Like you said, he is a great defender. In fact, I would go one step further and say he is a smart defender as well, and plays the pick and roll very well.

OK. Now, the unreal part that you are seemingly ignoring. Iguodala is a great defender too. Not good, great. However, he has constantly been questioned here because he is not a go to guy that will give you 20+ per game or win the game for you in the final minute or two. For his salary, he should give you that according to fans. In the end, Iguodala is a decent offensive player that can give you 10-15 points, facilitate the offense, and is a pretty good passer. He has even improved his 3 point shot quite a bit. All the while, he does it while playing 35-40 mpg. For Asik, he is an awful offensive player, both from the field and the FT line. He turns the ball over to boot. Outside of the occasional power dunk, he offers you very little on that end, except for the occasional moving pick.

Meanwhile, Asik has averaged 13 mpg over his two seasons in the league. You are completely extrapolating that he can do if you increase his workload by 2.5 to 3 times its current amount. That is extremely dangerous and exactly the way that guys like Jon Koncak and Jim McIlvane once set out to destroy salary structures. I get the intrigue that you have for him, but I'm not sure he's a full time guy, let alone worth $5-6 million per season. I wouldn't mind having him as part of a rotation though, kind of like how CHI uses him. He could certainly fill a hole, but suggesting that he's the full time answer at C is simply a guess.

[Rnd Mnd of Rbnd]

LMAO at Asik. He's the new Aaron Gray. When will people learn that big slug of garbage is big slug of garbage?

+1

[Gsraider]

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Kevin-Durant-390/

draft express has him at 6'10.25 in shoes and that was after his freshman year at texas where he has grown atleast 3/4 an inch since then

so like i said... 6'11

I could care less about this debate in general, but all players are measured at their true height without shoes, so 6'9" was the accurate height when he was drafted. I have no clue why you think he has grown at least 3/4 of an inch since college, but even if he had, he would still be considered 6'9 - 6'10". In any event, he's tall and he's exceptional. He's just not 6'11"