2016 NBA Draft/College Basketball Thread

iMoreland · Post #541 » by **iMoreland** » Mon Nov 23, 2015 2:28 pm

Mik317 wrote:Does he just avoid taking jumpers due to his advantages? If he is bigger, stronger or faster..or all 3 than his defender..why settle right?

Pretty much this. Can get by his guy at ease.

When he's playing off-ball, it seems like LSU always has him cutting back door for a lob.

iMoreland · Post #542 » by **iMoreland** » Mon Nov 23, 2015 3:08 pm

I really like Jaylen Brown, he reminds me so much of DeRozan

He's drawn 16 fouls in 68 minutes. That's one foul every 4ish minutes

Has good BBIQ

He's #2 on my board right now

No-Man · Post #543 » by **No-Man** » Mon Nov 23, 2015 5:35 pm

Right now my top15 will look like,

Simmons
Bender
Brown
Rabb
Poeltl
DJackson
Murray
Labissiere
Korkmaz
Dunn
Allen
Hernangómez
Trimble
Bryant
Baldwin

SparksFly87 · Post #544 » by **SparksFly87** » Mon Nov 23, 2015 6:20 pm

Murray is the best scoring prospect in this draft. Will be a top 5 -10 shooting guard easily in the nba. A bigger more disiplined monta ellis. 76ers should be all over him. I am still higher on Ingram over simmons for this team because of his ability to create his own shot, knock down 3s and play defense. Crucial for building around okafor or embiid.

SparksFly87 · Post #545 » by **SparksFly87** » Mon Nov 23, 2015 6:25 pm

Murray is the best scoring prospect in this draft. Will be a top 5 -10 shooting guard easily in the nba. A bigger more disiplined monta ellis. 76ers should be all over him. I am still higher on Ingram over simmons for this team because of his ability to create his own shot, knock down 3s and play defense. Crucial for building around okafor or embiid.

Post #546 » by **Duke4life831** » Mon Nov 23, 2015 6:52 pm

SparksFly87 wrote:Murray is the best scoring prospect in this draft. Will be a top 5 -10 shooting guard easily in the nba. A bigger more disiplined monta ellis. 76ers should be all over him. I am still higher on Ingram over simmons for this team because of his ability to create his own shot, knock down 3s and play defense. Crucial for building around okafor or embiid.

Don't really see the Monta Ellis comparison for Murray. Ellis is extremely quick, Murray is not going to wow anyone with his athleticism (it's solid, but not wow). Ellis also has never been known as a great shooter, Murray is a knock down shooter. And when it comes to Ingram, he's been inconsistent from 3 against higher competition and he may have defensive potential because his length, but he is not known as a defender right now. His man defense at the moment is a huge weakness, don't count on him being a good defender for a long time.

ratrac · Post #547 » by **ratrac** » Mon Nov 23, 2015 7:16 pm

Fischella wrote:Right now my top15 will look like,

Simmons
Bender
Brown
Rabb
Poeltl
DJackson
Murray
Labissiere
Korkmaz
Dunn
Allen
Hernangómez
Trimble
Bryant
Baldwin

You mean the same Hernangomez who was drafted last year? Or am I missing someone.

iMoreland · Post #548 » by **iMoreland** » Mon Nov 23, 2015 7:39 pm

ratrac wrote:
Fischella wrote:Right now my top15 will look like,

Simmons
Bender
Brown
Rabb
Poeltl
DJackson
Murray
Labissiere
Korkmaz
Dunn
Allen
Hernangómez
Trimble
Bryant
Baldwin

You mean the same Hernangomez who was drafted last year? Or am I missing someone.

Juancho Hernangómez, younger brother

ratrac · Post #549 » by **ratrac** » Mon Nov 23, 2015 9:39 pm

Nerlens No Ls wrote:
ratrac wrote:
Fischella wrote:Right now my top15 will look like,

Simmons
Bender
Brown
Rabb
Poeltl
DJackson
Murray
Labissiere
Korkmaz
Dunn
Allen
Hernangómez
Trimble
Bryant
Baldwin

You mean the same Hernangomez who was drafted last year? Or am I missing someone.

Juancho Hernangómez, younger brother

My bad then.

sixerhp3 · Post #550 » by **sixerhp3** » Tue Nov 24, 2015 12:30 am

Just a theory here but I feel like it is fate for us to lose out on Simmons and watch the Lakers get 1st pick. Monteverde to LSU to the Lakers, all purple and gold teams. The NBA will rig it and it will happen. we are cursed

iMoreland · Post #551 » by **iMoreland** » Tue Nov 24, 2015 1:31 am

"Average athlete"

phantom84 · Post #552 » by **phantom84** » Tue Nov 24, 2015 1:34 am

Nerlens No Ls wrote:"Average athlete"

Lol, dude is going to be one of the best transition player in the NBA.

No-Man · Post #553 » by **No-Man** » Tue Nov 24, 2015 1:52 am

I dont see how Simmons fits with Okafor honestly, or with Saric, Noel or Embiid, he has to play PF, the guy has no perimeter game.

phantom84 · Post #554 » by **phantom84** » Tue Nov 24, 2015 2:06 am

Fischella wrote:I dont see how Simmons fits with Okafor honestly, or with Saric, Noel or Embiid, he has to play PF, the guy has no perimeter game.

We take BPA and worry about fit later. Ben has 21, 20, 6 against Marquette right now, future is looking bright for this dude.

Simmons is definitely like Lebron, since both like to pass up the last shot lol.

iMoreland · Post #555 » by **iMoreland** » Tue Nov 24, 2015 2:20 am

Fischella wrote:I dont see how Simmons fits with Okafor honestly, or with Saric, Noel or Embiid, he has to play PF, the guy has no perimeter game.

Fit doesn't matter. Ben has the best chance out of this draft to become a superstar. You take him without thinking twice.

No-Man · Post #556 » by **No-Man** » Tue Nov 24, 2015 2:21 am

Ben is nowhere close LeBron in terms of athleticism.
He looks like a more assertive Odom, less of an athlete and a shooter though.
Floor could be Diaw, ceiling Hill if he ever gets a perimeter game.
I am not saying that you dont take him, just that long term, is not going to work.

Kobblehead · Post #557 » by **Kobblehead** » Tue Nov 24, 2015 2:24 am

iMoreland · Post #558 » by **iMoreland** » Tue Nov 24, 2015 2:27 am

Kobblehead · Post #559 » by **Kobblehead** » Tue Nov 24, 2015 2:28 am

Nerlens No Ls wrote:

Anyone who thinks that's a PF simply does not know basketball. Ben Simmons is a STAR WING.

No-Man · Post #560 » by **No-Man** » Tue Nov 24, 2015 2:32 am

Sure, try to accomplish that drive been defended by an NBA wing with an NBA big waiting downlow, he had Luke Fischer on him, a 7-0 C who is not precisely known for his athleticism.
Simmons is not going to be able to go to the rack unless he plays against bigs or all of the sudden has a knockdown jumper.
Star wing my ass.