The Playoffs Thread

[Sixerscan]

To whoever that guy who said Lakers was a fraud.

I apologize and say you were right. I just think they’d be better with a healthy AD and if Bron didnt decide to raise the white flag like a game or two back.

Harrell was a bad signing. I’d probably look for a guard for scoring not on a PF.

G:Schroeder
G:Scoring guard like Jordan Clarkson instead of Harrell (6th man then insert to SG on crunch time)
F:Bron
F:AD
C:Gasol

Of course. You don't lose a guy like Anthony Davis and have a very good shot against a team that went 51-21. When he got hurt in game 4 they were up 2-1 and leading at halftime, ultimately they won 2 of the 3 games Davis finished and lost all 3 he didn't.

They had a great team last year, but they are going to start running into depth issues because they traded basically everything not tied down for Davis, so they have few avenues to add depth. Even Horton-Tucker isn't on his rookie deal anymore.

[Embiid P]

Will Ben ever be good enough as Lillard?
Will Ben ever be more valuable as Lillard as an asset?

If the answer are no, then you do the trade.

After the deal, we then let Morey do his magic is surrounding the team with guys to compliment our guys.

If Lillard declines or retires, we find a 6’9” athlete then buy him some ball hog gloves and then train him to dribble. We’d then have Ben 2.0

You try to trade future draft picks and expirings for lillard. Not Simmons. I’ve said it over and over again.

Smart teams like Toronto offer junk (junk to Toronto cause they weren’t gonna to resign their players). They offered junk for Marc Gasol when he was still a good player. Now JV and Wright were good players. But Toronto had zero intention of resigning them.

Same thing with Nets trade. They had zero intention of resigning Allen. They just trade future draft picks.

It’s one thing to trade Simmons. But Portland will try to demand 2 more unprotected 2023/2025 draft picks plus try to ask us to throw in thybulle and or maxey for lillard.

If you can get Lillard for expiring and picks, then go ahead. Why would i even oppose to that? Hahaha

Our only significant expiring next season will be Hill who makes a little over $10 million next season which obviously isn't nearly enough to match Lillard's salary. Thus if Portland is only taking on expiring salaries, Morey would need to involve a third team with a big expiring to send to Portland to make it work. We'd then likely have to give up additional assets to incentivize the third team to take one of our big contracts (preferably Harris).

All in all, I don't see how it would work.

[jayu70]

Hawks. We’re built to defend guys like Trae. If Sixers can’t slowdown Trae, nobody can.

Hawks isn’t prepared to defend Biid or D12. If Capela is in foul trouble, they have to rely on Okongwu who is very raw.

Seth and Tobi should run more 2 man games like in G5 of the Wiz. Then Tobi can attack Trae if ever they switch.

I’d prefer Ben on John Collins, Ben can switch on Trae if they run a PnR with Collins and Trae.

Hawks weak links are Trae’s defense and their thin depth at C position.

Over the last 2 years in the regular season Trae's points and assists in those 5 games (and yes I know, regular season numbers don't mean squat)...however:
25/9
39/18
28/10
26/8
32/4
Capela staying out of foul trouble will be critical. However, I think Gallo will get the call to play some center which will pull Embiid and DH from the paint on the other end.
I think Trae will guard Danny Green since he has limited offensive tools to post him or drive pass him, he's a 3 point spot up shooter, so the Seth/Tobi PnR on defense will more likely be Bogi and Collins.
Hunter will match up defensively on Ben.

[cool93]

Yeah, go get Doncic for Scott+couple of 2nds while we are at it. You guys are delusional.

[Sixerscan]

Hawks. We’re built to defend guys like Trae. If Sixers can’t slowdown Trae, nobody can.

Hawks isn’t prepared to defend Biid or D12. If Capela is in foul trouble, they have to rely on Okongwu who is very raw.

Seth and Tobi should run more 2 man games like in G5 of the Wiz. Then Tobi can attack Trae if ever they switch.

I’d prefer Ben on John Collins, Ben can switch on Trae if they run a PnR with Collins and Trae.

Hawks weak links are Trae’s defense and their thin depth at C position.

Over the last 2 years in the regular season Trae's points and assists in those 5 games (and yes I know, regular season numbers don't mean squat)...however:
25/9
39/18
28/10
26/8
32/4
Capela staying out of foul trouble will be critical. However, I think Gallo will get the call to play some center which will pull Embiid and DH from the paint on the other end.
I think Trae will guard Danny Green since he has limited offensive tools to post him or drive pass him, he's a 3 point spot up shooter, so the Seth/Tobi PnR on defense will more likely be Bogi and Collins.
Hunter will match up defensively on Ben.

Yeah I wouldn't say that means very much. The one game in Philly he played this year was over by half time and the one in Atlanta was a covid game for the sixers that like 8 people dressed up for.

If a guy commits to getting 20+ shots up a game and having the ball as much as he does he's going to get numbers, it's more about limiting his impact while he's doing that. I'm less concerned about limiting every shot he takes and more not allowing him to just freely get into the lane like he did against the Knicks which resulted in kick outs and ball movement that led to open shots time after time.

[76ciology]

Hawks. We’re built to defend guys like Trae. If Sixers can’t slowdown Trae, nobody can.

Hawks isn’t prepared to defend Biid or D12. If Capela is in foul trouble, they have to rely on Okongwu who is very raw.

Seth and Tobi should run more 2 man games like in G5 of the Wiz. Then Tobi can attack Trae if ever they switch.

I’d prefer Ben on John Collins, Ben can switch on Trae if they run a PnR with Collins and Trae.

Hawks weak links are Trae’s defense and their thin depth at C position.

Over the last 2 years in the regular season Trae's points and assists in those 5 games (and yes I know, regular season numbers don't mean squat)...however:
25/9
39/18
28/10
26/8
32/4
Capela staying out of foul trouble will be critical. However, I think Gallo will get the call to play some center which will pull Embiid and DH from the paint on the other end.
I think Trae will guard Danny Green since he has limited offensive tools to post him or drive pass him, he's a 3 point spot up shooter, so the Seth/Tobi PnR on defense will more likely be Bogi and Collins.
Hunter will match up defensively on Ben.

Then we make Green as an invert screener for Ben, Biid or Tobi.

Trae will get his points. I personally am not a big believer on defense. But he’ll get the most challenge against the Sixers.

[eyeatoma]

I'd consider Tobias for CJ. I want Covington in the package though as we need a starting forward to replace Tobias.

Harris + Milton for CJ + Cov ?

Yes

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[eyeatoma]

I have zero interest in CJ. If we traded Tobi for him I think I'd throw up.

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I agree but if we want him otherwise say by to Matisse, Shake and Maxey

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[Arsenal]

I have zero interest in CJ. If we traded Tobi for him I think I'd throw up.

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I agree but if we want him otherwise say by to Matisse, Shake and Maxey

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We don't have enough room, shots, and cap for both CJ and Tobias. If CJ comes, Tobias HAS to go.

And with how Tobias played this year, I'm not sure I do it. Ask me after the playoffs.

[eyeatoma]

I have zero interest in CJ. If we traded Tobi for him I think I'd throw up.

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I agree but if we want him otherwise say by to Matisse, Shake and Maxey

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We don't have enough room, shots, and cap for both CJ and Tobias. If CJ comes, Tobias HAS to go.

And with how Tobias played this year, I'm not sure I do it. Ask me after the playoffs.

True but that's what they said about the Nets. If there can do it we can.

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[zaz102]

I agree but if we want him otherwise say by to Matisse, Shake and Maxey

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We don't have enough room, shots, and cap for both CJ and Tobias. If CJ comes, Tobias HAS to go.

And with how Tobias played this year, I'm not sure I do it. Ask me after the playoffs.

True but that's what they said about the Nets. If there can do it we can.

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Nets haven't really done much yet. Played two of their players for most of the year and still early in the playoffs. But I assume they're going to win the ship anyway as I subscribe to the more top players (except maybe 2+ centers), the better.

However, CJ and Tobi are not top players and killing depth would be tough. They would not be close to the Nets talent.

Finally, how could you make the trade work salary-wise without Tobi or Simmons?

[PhillyNj]

I have zero interest in CJ. If we traded Tobi for him I think I'd throw up.

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I agree but if we want him otherwise say by to Matisse, Shake and Maxey

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Salary is also a big factor in trades.
I’d rather have Maxey at 2.6 mil. Than C J McCollum at30.8 mil
I think McCollum should send 20% of his pay to Lillard, because without him he gets paid a lot less.

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

CJ has been my dream addition for quite some time. I mean, he went to Lehigh U in Bethlehem for crying out loud! I'm originally from Bethlehem, so I suppose that's why I like him so much, but it would be awesome to get him here. I agree though. If we did trade for him, it would be Tobias that would be leaving.

[eyeatoma]

We don't have enough room, shots, and cap for both CJ and Tobias. If CJ comes, Tobias HAS to go.

And with how Tobias played this year, I'm not sure I do it. Ask me after the playoffs.

True but that's what they said about the Nets. If there can do it we can.

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Nets haven't really done much yet. Played two of their players for most of the year and still early in the playoffs. But I assume they're going to win the ship anyway as I subscribe to the more top players (except maybe 2+ centers), the better.

However, CJ and Tobi are not top players and killing depth would be tough. They would not be close to the Nets talent.

Finally, how could you make the trade work salary-wise without Tobi or Simmons?

Danny green and George Hill?

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[Sixteen]

Imagine thinking the Lakers are any good this yr

Lol going to be fun bumping this every series

Yeah heaps fun hey

I'll eat my crow, but we aint gon sit here and act like injuries didn't play a part.

And nice of you to reply after its over and not when the lakers beat the suns lol

[zaz102]

True but that's what they said about the Nets. If there can do it we can.

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Nets haven't really done much yet. Played two of their players for most of the year and still early in the playoffs. But I assume they're going to win the ship anyway as I subscribe to the more top players (except maybe 2+ centers), the better.

However, CJ and Tobi are not top players and killing depth would be tough. They would not be close to the Nets talent.

Finally, how could you make the trade work salary-wise without Tobi or Simmons?

Danny green and George Hill?

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That would work. Good point.

You'd have to get ownership on board and I would presume you'd have fill out every other position with minimum. If that's the case, I peraonally would rather wait for another move since I don't think CJ would get us over the hump.

[Eyeamok]

CJ has been my dream addition for quite some time. I mean, he went to Lehigh U in Bethlehem for crying out loud! I'm originally from Bethlehem, so I suppose that's why I like him so much, but it would be awesome to get him here. I agree though. If we did trade for him, it would be Tobias that would be leaving.

He CJ was overall underwhelming in the Denver series....sort of reminded me of Tobias Harris in last season playoffs.

[SixthStreet]

We will have a lot of avenues of roster reconstruction this offseason, mostly because I believe Morey will be able to flip Harris for assets somewhere in a three team deal.

[LloydFree]

Trading anything for CJ Mccollum, making 33 million per year, is pure stupidity.

[Jhawk03]

Giving up too much for Dame. Dame we would have to give Simmons and one of our young guys. They can have Shake all they want, hell let them take Paul Reed. But Maxey and Thybulle are untouchable unless you can somehow keep Ben.

Lol. You can't be serious. I love Maxey and Thybulle but they are VERY touchable if we can get Dame.

Embiid+Lillard+min players would be better than what we have now.



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Then you'll have the same problem the lakers did.

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Trading anything for CJ Mccollum, making 33 million per year, is pure stupidity.

It's Dame or pass for me, no disrespect to CJ because he is a fair 2nd, but realistic 3rd option. By bleeding any amount of assets left just to obtain him is, well

And at the end of the day it's a typical old school Sixers style of doing business by going after CJ insteadof Dame, BUT... It all boils down to getting a ring, and if yes to getting a ring, after that... and then... and at what cost? Take a look at the Raptors for insight instead of the Lakers