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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#561 » by JRoy » Sun Dec 24, 2023 1:59 pm

phifans wrote:Let's make it simple

Tobi + Martin +26 OKC first + 29 first pick swap + two 24 seconds for Grant + Thybulle


POR politely declines.

Thybulle is shooting close to 40% from 3 and giving POR defense we really need.

Grant is overpaid but is an effective offensive player and not awful on defense.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#562 » by mjkvol » Sun Dec 24, 2023 2:43 pm

ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:Morey isn't that stupid as far as LaVine goes.


Who is this Weinbach clown anyway, another media "insider"? So glad I don't see that stuff except here, I'd rip my eyeballs out.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#563 » by mjkvol » Sun Dec 24, 2023 2:45 pm

JRoy wrote:
phifans wrote:Let's make it simple

Tobi + Martin +26 OKC first + 29 first pick swap + two 24 seconds for Grant + Thybulle


POR politely declines.

Thybulle is shooting close to 40% from 3 and giving POR defense we really need.

Grant is overpaid but is an effective offensive player and not awful on defense.


We really appreciate the politeness, JRoy.

If I was dealing with POR, I'd much prefer Brogdon to Thybulle anyway.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#564 » by Jailblazers7 » Sun Dec 24, 2023 2:47 pm

The Weinbach tweets are just him stating the obvious. All he said was a trade offer would include expirings or Tobias Harris. Which is just an easy observation based on salaries.

I’m sure Rich Paul is using every network connection he has to make it appear that his client has value. Problem is that he clearly doesn’t & everyone knows it.
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Post#565 » by the_process » Sun Dec 24, 2023 3:22 pm

youngcrev wrote:It would need to be a 3 way deal where for whatever reason the 3rd team doesn't want him... But I'd offer a star level package for Trey Murphy if he came on the market for whatever reason.

Perfect 3rd banana with what I think is all star level upside.


Another guy I'd love to steal out of NO: Dyson Daniels. I see him as an excellent partner for Maxey.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#566 » by ProcessDoctor » Sun Dec 24, 2023 3:22 pm

Yea I don't buy either of those rumors. I still especially can't imagine Morey going after LaVine.
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Maxey/McCain/Lowry
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#567 » by JRoy » Sun Dec 24, 2023 3:27 pm

mjkvol wrote:
JRoy wrote:
phifans wrote:Let's make it simple

Tobi + Martin +26 OKC first + 29 first pick swap + two 24 seconds for Grant + Thybulle


POR politely declines.

Thybulle is shooting close to 40% from 3 and giving POR defense we really need.

Grant is overpaid but is an effective offensive player and not awful on defense.


We really appreciate the politeness, JRoy.

If I was dealing with POR, I'd much prefer Brogdon to Thybulle anyway.


Brogdon is nice but frequently injured. Can play both on and off ball.

What might the offer look like?
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#568 » by mjkvol » Sun Dec 24, 2023 5:07 pm

JRoy wrote:
mjkvol wrote:
JRoy wrote:
POR politely declines.

Thybulle is shooting close to 40% from 3 and giving POR defense we really need.

Grant is overpaid but is an effective offensive player and not awful on defense.


We really appreciate the politeness, JRoy.

If I was dealing with POR, I'd much prefer Brogdon to Thybulle anyway.


Brogdon is nice but frequently injured. Can play both on and off ball.

What might the offer look like?


I'll leave that to the salary cap and trade gurus here, but I would risk Brogdon's health issues because he is about the most perfect fit next to Maxey that is potentially available.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#569 » by JRoy » Sun Dec 24, 2023 5:13 pm

mjkvol wrote:
JRoy wrote:
mjkvol wrote:
We really appreciate the politeness, JRoy.

If I was dealing with POR, I'd much prefer Brogdon to Thybulle anyway.


Brogdon is nice but frequently injured. Can play both on and off ball.

What might the offer look like?


I'll leave that to the salary cap and trade gurus here, but I would risk Brogdon's health issues because he is about the most perfect fit next to Maxey that is potentially available.


He’s not great defensively. He’s not awful but his athletic limitations can be an issue on that end. He’s smart and competes.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#570 » by the_process » Sun Dec 24, 2023 6:08 pm

JRoy wrote:
mjkvol wrote:
JRoy wrote:
POR politely declines.

Thybulle is shooting close to 40% from 3 and giving POR defense we really need.

Grant is overpaid but is an effective offensive player and not awful on defense.


We really appreciate the politeness, JRoy.

If I was dealing with POR, I'd much prefer Brogdon to Thybulle anyway.


Brogdon is nice but frequently injured. Can play both on and off ball.

What might the offer look like?


It’s basically the same offer as above except switch Thybulle for Brogdon.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#571 » by JRoy » Sun Dec 24, 2023 6:15 pm

I see.

Not looking to deal Grant.

What might PHI offer for just Brogdon?
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Post#572 » by PhillyFan11 » Sun Dec 24, 2023 6:26 pm

JRoy wrote:I see.

Not looking to deal Grant.

What might PHI offer for just Brogdon?


Just a matter of how many (if any) other teams are interested and who’s willing to offer the most/best pick. I imagine Brogdon would fetch 1 1st, but also hard to see a team trading multiple 1st’s unless they are heavily protected.

Morris, Korkmaz, OKC ‘26 1st, and ‘24 2nd would probably be about as high as I’d go for Brogdon. Maybe someone beats that offer, but if so I wouldn’t lose any sleep.

Whether it’s Brogdon, Caruso, Gary Trent Jr, or someone else…I think the Sixers can get a solid guard for the rotation while giving up just expirings, the OKC 1st and a 2nd or 2 (possibly not even the 1st for GTJ)
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#573 » by JRoy » Sun Dec 24, 2023 6:37 pm

PhillyFan11 wrote:
JRoy wrote:I see.

Not looking to deal Grant.

What might PHI offer for just Brogdon?


Just a matter of how many (if any) other teams are interested and who’s willing to offer the most/best pick. I imagine Brogdon would fetch 1 1st, but also hard to see a team trading multiple 1st’s unless they are heavily protected.

Morris, Korkmaz, OKC ‘26 1st, and ‘24 2nd would probably be about as high as I’d go for Brogdon. Maybe someone beats that offer, but if so I wouldn’t lose any sleep.

Whether it’s Brogdon, Caruso, Gary Trent Jr, or someone else…I think the Sixers can get a solid guard for the rotation while giving up just expirings, the OKC 1st and a 2nd or 2 (possibly not even the 1st for GTJ)


I’d take that deal for Brogdon. He’s worth expiring and lotto protected FRP. You could keep the SRP.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#574 » by youngcrev » Sun Dec 24, 2023 6:42 pm

the_process wrote:
youngcrev wrote:It would need to be a 3 way deal where for whatever reason the 3rd team doesn't want him... But I'd offer a star level package for Trey Murphy if he came on the market for whatever reason.

Perfect 3rd banana with what I think is all star level upside.


Another guy I'd love to steal out of NO: Dyson Daniels. I see him as an excellent partner for Maxey.


Daniels is a nice rotation piece with starter upside. I think Trey would be an immediate impact starter here with low level all star upside.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#575 » by PhillyFan11 » Sun Dec 24, 2023 6:50 pm

JRoy wrote:
PhillyFan11 wrote:
JRoy wrote:I see.

Not looking to deal Grant.

What might PHI offer for just Brogdon?


Just a matter of how many (if any) other teams are interested and who’s willing to offer the most/best pick. I imagine Brogdon would fetch 1 1st, but also hard to see a team trading multiple 1st’s unless they are heavily protected.

Morris, Korkmaz, OKC ‘26 1st, and ‘24 2nd would probably be about as high as I’d go for Brogdon. Maybe someone beats that offer, but if so I wouldn’t lose any sleep.

Whether it’s Brogdon, Caruso, Gary Trent Jr, or someone else…I think the Sixers can get a solid guard for the rotation while giving up just expirings, the OKC 1st and a 2nd or 2 (possibly not even the 1st for GTJ)


I’d take that deal for Brogdon. He’s worth expiring and lotto protected FRP. You could keep the SRP.


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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#576 » by JRoy » Sun Dec 24, 2023 6:58 pm

PhillyFan11 wrote:
JRoy wrote:I see.

Not looking to deal Grant.

What might PHI offer for just Brogdon?


Just a matter of how many (if any) other teams are interested and who’s willing to offer the most/best pick. I imagine Brogdon would fetch 1 1st, but also hard to see a team trading multiple 1st’s unless they are heavily protected.

Morris, Korkmaz, OKC ‘26 1st, and ‘24 2nd would probably be about as high as I’d go for Brogdon. Maybe someone beats that offer, but if so I wouldn’t lose any sleep.

Whether it’s Brogdon, Caruso, Gary Trent Jr, or someone else…I think the Sixers can get a solid guard for the rotation while giving up just expirings, the OKC 1st and a 2nd or 2 (possibly not even the 1st for GTJ)


I don’t think GTJr is in the category as Brogdon and Caruso, at least not this year. He has really been struggling. Might be a good buy-low candiadate for team willing to tolerate the risk.
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Post#577 » by PhillyNj » Sun Dec 24, 2023 7:25 pm

JRoy wrote:I see.

Not looking to deal Grant.

What might PHI offer for just Brogdon?

Philly doesn’t want Brogdon. He’s a negative contract. Portland will have to pay to unload him.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#578 » by JRoy » Sun Dec 24, 2023 7:35 pm

PhillyNj wrote:
JRoy wrote:I see.

Not looking to deal Grant.

What might PHI offer for just Brogdon?

Philly doesn’t want Brogdon. He’s a negative contract. Portland will have to pay to unload him.


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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#579 » by Ben » Mon Dec 25, 2023 1:03 am

PhillyNj wrote:
JRoy wrote:I see.

Not looking to deal Grant.

What might PHI offer for just Brogdon?

Philly doesn’t want Brogdon. He’s a negative contract. Portland will have to pay to unload him.


I'm sure he's not actually negative right now, as he's played very well. But Portland fans may not realize just how much of a concern his health/ injury history is to other teams. As many of us probably remember, those concerns were what caused the Clippers to pull back from facilitating a Porzingis trade with Boston and Washington-- they balked at taking back Brogdon. That, combined with his age (31, just at the beginng of what's usually a declining trajectory for guards) and the fact that he's still owed $22.5M next year), make him a big risk for any team that's trying to clear 2024 cap space. If Portland gets expirings for Brogdon, the other team might well decline to give a 1st rounder in return because they're taking all the risk.

Caruso would be a terrific but he but, too, has serious injury concerns. He just keeps getting hurt and missing time: toe, wrist, toe again, knee.... And he's under contract for next season, although a more affordable $9.9M.

Both Brogdon and Caruso would thus represent significant risks. I'd rank Caruso higher just b/c he makes less money. But either or both could wind up missing serious time at inconvenient periods.
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Post#580 » by JRoy » Mon Dec 25, 2023 1:12 am

Ben wrote:
PhillyNj wrote:
JRoy wrote:I see.

Not looking to deal Grant.

What might PHI offer for just Brogdon?

Philly doesn’t want Brogdon. He’s a negative contract. Portland will have to pay to unload him.


I'm sure he's not actually negative right now, as he's played very well. But Portland fans may not realize just how much of a concern his health/ injury history is to other teams. As many of us probably remember, those concerns were what caused the Clippers to pull back from facilitating a Porzingis trade with Boston and Washington-- they balked at taking back Brogdon. That, combined with his age (31, just at the beginng of what's usually a declining trajectory for guards) and the fact that he's still owed $22.5M next year), make him a big risk for any team that's trying to clear 2024 cap space. If Portland gets expirings for Brogdon, the other team might well decline to give a 1st rounder in return because they're taking all the risk.

Caruso would be a terrific but he but, too, has serious injury concerns. He just keeps getting hurt and missing time: toe, wrist, toe again, knee.... And he's under contract for next season, although a more affordable $9.9M.

Both Brogdon and Caruso would thus represent significant risks. I'd rank Caruso higher just b/c he makes less money. But either or both could wind up missing serious time at inconvenient periods.


Totally reasonable.

Can understand any team being reluctant to move quality trade assets for Brogdon. No reason for to move Brogdon for end of bench scrubs and SRP. It that is his market value, may as well keep him.
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