Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4

[Jhawk03]

We getting Norman Powell centered package is guaranteed wasted anyway, atleast by just letting Harden expire we have a better chance in the next few years.

Will they sign in Philly? As Morey said, we’re the only contender with that much cap space next season. We also have Nick Nurse who may help us land Siakam and/or OG. PG and Kawhi are also both FAs. Some big star like Jaylen Brown or LaMelo Ball may ask for a trade.The chances we land 1 of them is higher than winning a championship with Norman Powell next year.

For next season, we just try to develop this “double big” scheme. Where we have 4 guys who can be a long term fit or a place holder for Siakam.

It sounds like you both are saying the same thing, in a different language but without a translator.

Getting something (???) for Harden vs nothing is a waste either way. I'm so out on this crap that I can't believe even Joshua knows what to do, let alone Daryl the genius.

Eyeatoma: if harden goes down season is guaranteed wasted

Me: harden goes down or we get a norman powell centered deal the season are both guaranteed wasted

Eyeatoma: not so optimistic about landing FA

Me: optimistic in landing FA

Key component: No shot at a championship regardless of optimism (majority believes no FA wants to come here) let alone getting out of the 2nd round... and as a bonus... incoming Embiid trade request.

[sixers4real]

I think we have to think wider than just getting FA in 2024.
Morey talked about it in podcast.
It’s going to be a unique situation for a team with an MVP and one of the best rising stars in Maxey to have max cap space next summer and picks (if Morey will get them for Harden).
Other big names can be available next summer via trade, like Ingram.

[76ciology]

Maybe that means that he's been on high-paying, long-term contracts for a long time, always with expectations of future contracts, and now it's time to get uncomfortable by having to play this season as well as he can without knowing what'll come next.

Comfortable: Parties, booze and girls
Uncomfortable: getting in shape for training camp

[SixersSince82]

What was the realistic "trying to win/all in" alternative to this?

Sign Harden to a long term deal, bring back Niang and use the 5.6 MLE on a veteran?

Whether we end up with an all-star or not next year, having all that cap space puts us in better position to build the roster long term. If we cant get a star, we can get better role players than Niang and whomever we would have gotten with the mini-MLE. Perhaps we use the cap space to acquire assets or to move up in next years draft since we actually have our pick. In the meantime, we get to really evaluate Maxey before we commit to him long term, We get to see Reed with more minutes and probably getting time at PF, we get to see a more innovative coach behind the wheel and we can see if having some actual center depth helps Joel stay healthy.

Hardly a wasted season, imo.

[youngcrev]

Maybe that means that he's been on high-paying, long-term contracts for a long time, always with expectations of future contracts, and now it's time to get uncomfortable by having to play this season as well as he can without knowing what'll come next.

Comfortable: Parties, booze and girls
Uncomfortable: getting in shape for training camp

Yeah, clearly a good thing. He's gonna step out of his comfort zone and start moving off ball, taking spot ups, defending guys. Working out, going to bed early, eating clean. No other way to take this.

[Negrodamus]

Read on Twitter

[LeTimmAy]

Go for it. Straight up for cov.

[youngcrev]

Read on Twitter

I have to imagine it would be part of Harden deal rather than just something on its own.

But hey, I'm down to swap out cooked forward with 2 years left for one of their cooked forwards with 1 year left.

[seventy6ers]

Phi out: Harden, Tucker
Phi in: Morris, Batum or Covington, Mann, Hyland, Kobe Brown

[Iverson Armband]

Something’s a brewin’

[Arsenal]

If the Clips actually want Tucker that's great news. He obviously has to go along with Harden.

Now it's a matter of haggling over how many young + cheap players, picks, swaps, and expirings we get.

[FireMorey]

Don't think this is new Jake Fischer reported they discussed Tucker back before Harden asked to be traded, so it's probably related to that.

[Iverson Armband]

Don't think this is new Jake Fischer reported they discussed Tucker back before Harden asked to be traded, so it's probably related to that.

Ok, well now Harden has asked to be traded. Perfect.

[Murray_17]

If we’re not going to get paul george, the assets we want in return.

Norman Powell (possibly ship to a 3rd team)
Robert Covington
Terance Mann
2027 1st
2028 pick swap
2029 1st
2030 pick swap

You're nuts if you think we're getting all of that for Harden.

The guy could have sign as a free agent for the Clippers by opting out, we could also do a sign & trade if the interest for the Clippers was high. The Clippers are NOT that interested.

I think we can get Mann as long as the Clippers **** the bed again and maybe one pick at best, but 4 picks? lol

[buckets76]

If we’re not going to get paul george, the assets we want in return.

Norman Powell (possibly ship to a 3rd team)
Robert Covington
Terance Mann
2027 1st
2028 pick swap
2029 1st
2030 pick swap

You're nuts if you think we're getting all of that for Harden.

The guy could have sign as a free agent for the Clippers by opting out, we could also do a sign & trade if the interest for the Clippers was high. The Clippers are NOT that interested.

I think we can get Mann as long as the Clippers **** the bed again and maybe one pick at best, but 4 picks? lol

It's two first round picks. The other two are swaps which generally don't amount to much. Swaps are more like a lottery ticket for the team receiving them. And Harden could have only signed to the clippers on a vet minimum deal if he opted out which is why he did not opt out.

And none of us know how badly the clippers want Harden. Unless you have sources in these two front offices, no one knows what's going on.

[Murray_17]

It's two first round picks. The other two are swaps which generally don't amount to much. Swaps are more like a lottery ticket for the team receiving them. And Harden could have only signed to the clippers on a vet minimum deal if he opted out which is why he did not opt out.

Swaps amount to a better option at the lottery anyway.

And none of us know how badly the clippers want Harden. Too many fans talking about leverage and it's all made up narratives. Unless you have sources in these two front offices, no one knows what's going on.

All the reports are saying the Clippers aren't willing to part with key pieces, also if they want him so badly they could have reach a better deal by working a sign & trade and forcing the Sixers to take less in exchange for not getting nothing out of Harden walking.

The reality is non of that happen which is a sign of how much value the Clippers have put on him.

[buckets76]

All the reports are saying the Clippers aren't willing to part with key pieces, also if they want him so badly they could have reach a better deal by working a sign & trade and forcing the Sixers to take less in exchange for not getting nothing out of Harden walking.

The reality is non of that happen which is a sign of how much value the Clippers have put on him.

Reports are not always accurate but if you do want to talk about what has been reported, how about what Jake Fischer wrote a few days ago.

"And Harden’s side sees Los Angeles’ roster — with young blue-chippers like Terance Mann and valuable postseason contributors like Norman Powell — plus a collection of usable contracts and first-round draft capital to make a deal happen"

So if this is to be believed, Harden's own camp expects the clippers to give up some solid assets in this deal. Of course the clippers are going to play hard ball and not give up the farm right away and the sixers will do the same. This is a negotiation and no one wants to give an inch right now. Reports will continue to trickle in and we'll get a better picture of what's going on. This is still in the early stages.

[Stanford]

Young blue-chipper... Terance Mann

I feel like I'm going crazy

[Sixteen]

is that a Ruff Ryder's tattoo on PJs right bicep?

[FireMorey]

Young blue-chipper... Terance Mann

I feel like I'm going crazy

Propaganda machines for LA based teams are always in full swing.