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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#581 » by zaz102 » Sun Aug 11, 2024 3:14 am

My hope for the remaining moves-
* Sign Osman to a veteran's minimum
* Trade KJ + picks for Eason / Aldama
* Sign PJ Tucker after being bought out.

Embiid / Drummond, Tucker
George & Eason (or Aldama) / Oubre, Martin, Osman, Tucker
Martin & Maxey / Gordon, Lowry, Oubre, Jackson

Feels like a very dynamic group. A lot of lineups you could create. You got elite talent for your top guys with a lot of depth that fits nicely with the stars.

If the Sixers are able to get a roster going into the playoffs and be healthy (the hard part lol), then I'll be ready to get hurt again.
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Post#582 » by Iscull » Sun Aug 11, 2024 1:27 pm

Any chance Yabuselle comes back to the NBA?
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Post#583 » by 76ciology » Sun Aug 11, 2024 3:24 pm

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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#584 » by 76ciology » Sun Aug 11, 2024 3:24 pm

Iscull wrote:Any chance Yabuselle comes back to the NBA?


I mentioned about it a couple of pages ago. He looked real good in that game against Canada
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#585 » by sixers hoops » Sun Aug 11, 2024 3:52 pm

zaz102 wrote:My hope for the remaining moves-
* Sign Osman to a veteran's minimum
* Trade KJ + picks for Eason / Aldama
* Sign PJ Tucker after being bought out.

Embiid / Drummond, Tucker
George & Eason (or Aldama) / Oubre, Martin, Osman, Tucker
Martin & Maxey / Gordon, Lowry, Oubre, Jackson

Feels like a very dynamic group. A lot of lineups you could create. You got elite talent for your top guys with a lot of depth that fits nicely with the stars.

If the Sixers are able to get a roster going into the playoffs and be healthy (the hard part lol), then I'll be ready to get hurt again.


PJ Tucker vs Marcus Morris presents two similar options at the minimum, assuming PJ becomes a free-agent. Comparable three point shooters, although PJ had a rough stretch towards the end with the Sixers. Both known for their toughness. On paper, very similar.

I think Marcus is more conditioned to play the role of 5 minutes one night and 30 minutes the next. Marcus appears to be more adept to switching defensively at this point. Similar rebounding, PJ’s numbers are slightly better, but PJ will be 40 years old by playoff time. Marcus doesn’t have the prototype frame to box out 250 pound guys, but there aren’t many 250 pound PFs anyway.

Ultimately, I would be disappointed in PJ over Morris. I think Morris is better at this point and would prefer we go that direction.

I read that Pompey reported that the Sixers are interested in Bertans. He shoots just under 40% from three, and he can’t defend, rebound, and doesn’t really add any intangibles to the team. Morris shot better than Bertans from three last season and is also better at everything else.

I’m not sure of the Sixers thinking here, but Morris reportedly wants to play here, fills an apparent need on the roster, and seems to be the best option out there. They may know of somebody who is likely to get cut, such as PJ Tucker, but I’m not sure what they are waiting on. Maybe they just don’t like Morris as much as I do.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#586 » by sixers hoops » Sun Aug 11, 2024 3:54 pm

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Morey is preparing a three year deal as we speak lol
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#587 » by sixers hoops » Sun Aug 11, 2024 3:56 pm

zaz102 wrote:My hope for the remaining moves-
* Sign Osman to a veteran's minimum
* Trade KJ + picks for Eason / Aldama
* Sign PJ Tucker after being bought out.

Embiid / Drummond, Tucker
George & Eason (or Aldama) / Oubre, Martin, Osman, Tucker
Martin & Maxey / Gordon, Lowry, Oubre, Jackson

Feels like a very dynamic group. A lot of lineups you could create. You got elite talent for your top guys with a lot of depth that fits nicely with the stars.

If the Sixers are able to get a roster going into the playoffs and be healthy (the hard part lol), then I'll be ready to get hurt again.


I haven’t seen Eason play much, but a younger, talented guy who is under contract is the direction I would like to go.
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Post#588 » by mjkvol » Sun Aug 11, 2024 5:03 pm

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Morey is preparing a three year deal as we speak lol


The third year has a player option.
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Post#589 » by mjkvol » Sun Aug 11, 2024 5:04 pm

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I'll take him in a heartbeat over PJ Tucker.

Probably over Marcus Morris as well.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#590 » by Jailblazers7 » Sun Aug 11, 2024 5:24 pm

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Iscull wrote:Any chance Yabuselle comes back to the NBA?


I mentioned about it a couple of pages ago. He looked real good in that game against Canada


I have to imagine there’s an NBA contract out there for him if he wants it after the Olympic performances he had.
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Post#591 » by the_process » Sun Aug 11, 2024 5:41 pm

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76ciology wrote:
Iscull wrote:Any chance Yabuselle comes back to the NBA?


I mentioned about it a couple of pages ago. He looked real good in that game against Canada


I have to imagine there’s an NBA contract out there for him if he wants it after the Olympic performances he had.


Apparently he plays for Real Madrid currently. Don't see anything online about his contract, though?

If he has a buyout, and is willing to come back over on a minimum, would probably be worth it. My guess is that he makes more staying in Europe and you would have to wait until the offseason when you have an exception available to pay him with.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#592 » by HotelVitale » Sun Aug 11, 2024 5:58 pm

76ciology wrote:
Iscull wrote:Any chance Yabuselle comes back to the NBA?


I mentioned about it a couple of pages ago. He looked real good in that game against Canada


He'd probably come at the first offer, SO much more money to be made in the NBA than any int'l league. Possible he might drag his feet on a one-year minimum but the reward for that working out is massive so he'd probably take it if it was the only offer out there.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#593 » by HotelVitale » Sun Aug 11, 2024 6:07 pm

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zaz102 wrote:My hope for the remaining moves-
* Sign Osman to a veteran's minimum
* Trade KJ + picks for Eason / Aldama
* Sign PJ Tucker after being bought out.

Embiid / Drummond, Tucker
George & Eason (or Aldama) / Oubre, Martin, Osman, Tucker
Martin & Maxey / Gordon, Lowry, Oubre, Jackson

Feels like a very dynamic group. A lot of lineups you could create. You got elite talent for your top guys with a lot of depth that fits nicely with the stars.

If the Sixers are able to get a roster going into the playoffs and be healthy (the hard part lol), then I'll be ready to get hurt again.


I read that Pompey reported that the Sixers are interested in Bertans. He shoots just under 40% from three, and he can’t defend, rebound, and doesn’t really add any intangibles to the team. Morris shot better than Bertans from three last season and is also better at everything else.


Sure but Bertans shoots twice as many 3s per minute as Morris and almost any shot he can get off is decent offense. Like some other movement shooters we've had (e.g. Belinelli or Redick), you can call plays that are just 'have Bertans run around two screens and fire up whatever shot he can get off' and get pretty good offense off it.

I'm definitely not advocating for him over Morris but they're not the same/equal as shooters, let alone Morris being a little better because of some % pts. Morris is a solid catch-shoot shooter when he's open in the flow, Bertans is a movement sniper who can shoot fading away from 28 ft with just a tiny window to fire.

Him sucking at everything else is an issue though. Be fun to see Nurse tiptoe around talking about the rest of his game to the media.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#594 » by mjkvol » Sun Aug 11, 2024 6:16 pm

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zaz102 wrote:My hope for the remaining moves-
* Sign Osman to a veteran's minimum
* Trade KJ + picks for Eason / Aldama
* Sign PJ Tucker after being bought out.

Embiid / Drummond, Tucker
George & Eason (or Aldama) / Oubre, Martin, Osman, Tucker
Martin & Maxey / Gordon, Lowry, Oubre, Jackson

Feels like a very dynamic group. A lot of lineups you could create. You got elite talent for your top guys with a lot of depth that fits nicely with the stars.

If the Sixers are able to get a roster going into the playoffs and be healthy (the hard part lol), then I'll be ready to get hurt again.


I read that Pompey reported that the Sixers are interested in Bertans. He shoots just under 40% from three, and he can’t defend, rebound, and doesn’t really add any intangibles to the team. Morris shot better than Bertans from three last season and is also better at everything else.


Sure but Bertans shoots twice as many 3s per minute as Morris and almost any shot he can get off is decent offense. Like some other movement shooters we've had (e.g. Belinelli or Redick), you can call plays that are just 'have Bertans run around two screens and fire up whatever shot he can get off' and get pretty good offense off it.

I'm definitely not advocating for him over Morris but they're not the same/equal as shooters, let alone Morris being a little better because of some % pts. Morris is a solid catch-shoot shooter when he's open in the flow, Bertans is a movement sniper who can shoot fading away from 28 ft with just a tiny window to fire.

Him sucking at everything else is an issue though. Be fun to see Nurse tiptoe around talking about the rest of his game to the media.


I'm definitely advocating for Bertans if it's between him, Morris, and Tucker. What you say is true about his overall game, but to have an end of the bench guy with one elite skill (and one that could be very useful in spots on this team) is better than one who is pretty much mediocre all around.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#595 » by HotelVitale » Sun Aug 11, 2024 6:19 pm

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I read that Pompey reported that the Sixers are interested in Bertans. He shoots just under 40% from three, and he can’t defend, rebound, and doesn’t really add any intangibles to the team. Morris shot better than Bertans from three last season and is also better at everything else.


Sure but Bertans shoots twice as many 3s per minute as Morris and almost any shot he can get off is decent offense. Like some other movement shooters we've had (e.g. Belinelli or Redick), you can call plays that are just 'have Bertans run around two screens and fire up whatever shot he can get off' and get pretty good offense off it.

I'm definitely not advocating for him over Morris but they're not the same/equal as shooters, let alone Morris being a little better because of some % pts. Morris is a solid catch-shoot shooter when he's open in the flow, Bertans is a movement sniper who can shoot fading away from 28 ft with just a tiny window to fire.

Him sucking at everything else is an issue though. Be fun to see Nurse tiptoe around talking about the rest of his game to the media.


I'm definitely advocating for Bertans if it's between him, Morris, and Tucker. What you say is true about his overall game, but to have an end of the bench guy with one elite skill (and one that could be very useful in spots on this team) is better than one who is pretty much mediocre all around.


I think it's a pretty tough call, I'm mostly thinking about who can help to pull out some RS wins mid-season when we're short-handed. Feels like Bertans has more potential to swing a few games with some blistering streaks, and I am kinda worried about generating offense outside of our big 3. Reggie will help with that but homeboy can get real cold, and Oubre of course has his issues with consistency too (and like throwing the ball from his hands into the hands of any player who has his same jersey).

Flipside is that Morris can probably eat more innings and not kill us if he has to play decent minutes cuz of injuries etc. A bad Bertans game feels more like a team-killer than a bad Morris game.
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Post#596 » by mjkvol » Sun Aug 11, 2024 7:50 pm

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Sure but Bertans shoots twice as many 3s per minute as Morris and almost any shot he can get off is decent offense. Like some other movement shooters we've had (e.g. Belinelli or Redick), you can call plays that are just 'have Bertans run around two screens and fire up whatever shot he can get off' and get pretty good offense off it.

I'm definitely not advocating for him over Morris but they're not the same/equal as shooters, let alone Morris being a little better because of some % pts. Morris is a solid catch-shoot shooter when he's open in the flow, Bertans is a movement sniper who can shoot fading away from 28 ft with just a tiny window to fire.

Him sucking at everything else is an issue though. Be fun to see Nurse tiptoe around talking about the rest of his game to the media.


I'm definitely advocating for Bertans if it's between him, Morris, and Tucker. What you say is true about his overall game, but to have an end of the bench guy with one elite skill (and one that could be very useful in spots on this team) is better than one who is pretty much mediocre all around.


I think it's a pretty tough call, I'm mostly thinking about who can help to pull out some RS wins mid-season when we're short-handed. Feels like Bertans has more potential to swing a few games with some blistering streaks, and I am kinda worried about generating offense outside of our big 3. Reggie will help with that but homeboy can get real cold, and Oubre of course has his issues with consistency too (and like throwing the ball from his hands into the hands of any player who has his same jersey).

Flipside is that Morris can probably eat more innings and not kill us if he has to play decent minutes cuz of injuries etc. A bad Bertans game feels more like a team-killer than a bad Morris game.


Okay, if not Bertans then it should be Popovich. Looks like a streak shooter with some distribution skills.
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Post#597 » by Sixerscan » Sun Aug 11, 2024 7:53 pm

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I mentioned about it a couple of pages ago. He looked real good in that game against Canada


I have to imagine there’s an NBA contract out there for him if he wants it after the Olympic performances he had.


Apparently he plays for Real Madrid currently. Don't see anything online about his contract, though?

If he has a buyout, and is willing to come back over on a minimum, would probably be worth it. My guess is that he makes more staying in Europe and you would have to wait until the offseason when you have an exception available to pay him with.

Maybe if you give him a player option! :D
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Post#598 » by youngcrev » Sun Aug 11, 2024 8:05 pm

Iscull wrote:Any chance Yabuselle comes back to the NBA?


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Post#599 » by zaz102 » Sun Aug 11, 2024 8:06 pm

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zaz102 wrote:My hope for the remaining moves-
* Sign Osman to a veteran's minimum
* Trade KJ + picks for Eason / Aldama
* Sign PJ Tucker after being bought out.

Embiid / Drummond, Tucker
George & Eason (or Aldama) / Oubre, Martin, Osman, Tucker
Martin & Maxey / Gordon, Lowry, Oubre, Jackson

Feels like a very dynamic group. A lot of lineups you could create. You got elite talent for your top guys with a lot of depth that fits nicely with the stars.

If the Sixers are able to get a roster going into the playoffs and be healthy (the hard part lol), then I'll be ready to get hurt again.


PJ Tucker vs Marcus Morris presents two similar options at the minimum, assuming PJ becomes a free-agent. Comparable three point shooters, although PJ had a rough stretch towards the end with the Sixers. Both known for their toughness. On paper, very similar.

I think Marcus is more conditioned to play the role of 5 minutes one night and 30 minutes the next. Marcus appears to be more adept to switching defensively at this point. Similar rebounding, PJ’s numbers are slightly better, but PJ will be 40 years old by playoff time. Marcus doesn’t have the prototype frame to box out 250 pound guys, but there aren’t many 250 pound PFs anyway.

Ultimately, I would be disappointed in PJ over Morris. I think Morris is better at this point and would prefer we go that direction.

I read that Pompey reported that the Sixers are interested in Bertans. He shoots just under 40% from three, and he can’t defend, rebound, and doesn’t really add any intangibles to the team. Morris shot better than Bertans from three last season and is also better at everything else.

I’m not sure of the Sixers thinking here, but Morris reportedly wants to play here, fills an apparent need on the roster, and seems to be the best option out there. They may know of somebody who is likely to get cut, such as PJ Tucker, but I’m not sure what they are waiting on. Maybe they just don’t like Morris as much as I do.
I agree with Morris over PJ. I was trying to be somewhat realistic in that they are only choosing one FA right now and keeping a roster spot open. I prefer Osman over Morris and Bertans, although based on lack of reports he's probably not coming so maybe not that realistic anyway.


Another route that is close to this is signing Morris and later trading for Fontecchio. These are similar and better players than PJ and Osman, and I think pretty realistic. You wouldn't have a really good rebounding PF like Eason though. Maybe you hope Nance gets bought out, but I'm thinking he might have a little too much value across the league to be bought out.
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Post#600 » by the_process » Mon Aug 12, 2024 2:41 am

Wiretap says an NBA team can put up 850k of the 2.5M buyout Yabusele has. But then it counts toward the cap? Can you pay that and still have the contract count as a minimum?

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