2025 Fantasy Trade Thread

[stormi]

If our guy (Ace or Noa) is available at #5 then I'll do this:

Sixers out / Jazz in: George, #3
Jazz out / Sixers in: Markannen, #5

Looks like younger Ainge is ready to deal, unlike his daddy who always asks for too much.

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I think you probably have to give Utah a little more.

PG, 3, and 28 LAC 1st for Lauri, 5, and 21.

This would kill it for me. I don't think the original is that great a deal for us. Markannen looked not great this year, like a guy who just got his massive pay day and then lets it ride a bit. Sure he's younger than PG, maybe he was injured a bit? I don't know as i don't really follow the jazz much. but i'm not super keen to take on bigger/longer money just because he's a bit younger. A healthy PG is still better, and i really feel like he will have at least a good year this year.

Lauri Bird has been just as broken as George over the years and hits UFA an extra season later. Maybe that's due to load management // tanking manipulation by Utah, but you have to factor that in.

I also, like you expect George to rebound to some degree but there's massive value in our favor not being accountable with $50+ million per season on the books for a 36 & 37 year old Paul George.

TPs evaluation is probably more realistic, but future Clippers picks are untouchable for me.

I'm quite interested in swapping with NOP to acquire Herb Jones since I consider the prospects after Harper to be roughly similarly tiered until ~9 anyways.

[the_process]

I'd also be interested in moving down with NOP, but I don't think Herb Jones is enough.

You'd be looking at Oubre, Drummond, Gordon, and 3 for Herb and 7.

That feels pretty light to me. But if they added their pick next year with the MIL swap, we'd be talking about a Hinkie-style heist. Dumars is dumb enough to do that if he really loves Bailey, though.

[Stanford]

I just wish that NO had six instead of seven.

[stormi]

I'd also be interested in moving down with NOP, but I don't think Herb Jones is enough.

You'd be looking at Oubre, Drummond, Gordon, and 3 for Herb and 7.

That feels pretty light to me. But if they added their pick next year with the MIL swap, we'd be talking about a Hinkie-style heist. Dumars is dumb enough to do that if he really loves Bailey, though.

You're actually probably right.

Playing into the disparity in GM talent and the perception of what we're moving off of an alleged Kevin Durant reincarnate we probably could squeeze more value.

Harris needs to do something productive for the first time in his life and offer out payola to Givony and Windhorst to pump stories about how infatuated we are with Ace's skillset.

[stormi]

I just wish that NO had six instead of seven.

I'd assume we only make this deal if our evaluators are convinced by the actual upside swings in Maluach or Essengue, or a Kasparas/CMB/Queen/Bryant.

[Iscull]

I think you probably have to give Utah a little more.

PG, 3, and 28 LAC 1st for Lauri, 5, and 21.

This would kill it for me. I don't think the original is that great a deal for us. Markannen looked not great this year, like a guy who just got his massive pay day and then lets it ride a bit. Sure he's younger than PG, maybe he was injured a bit? I don't know as i don't really follow the jazz much. but i'm not super keen to take on bigger/longer money just because he's a bit younger. A healthy PG is still better, and i really feel like he will have at least a good year this year.

Lauri Bird has been just as broken as George over the years and hits UFA an extra season later. Maybe that's due to load management // tanking manipulation by Utah, but you have to factor that in.

I also, like you expect George to rebound to some degree but there's massive value in our favor not being accountable with $50+ million per season on the books for a 36 & 37 year old Paul George.

TPs evaluation is probably more realistic, but future Clippers picks are untouchable for me.

I'm quite interested in swapping with NOP to acquire Herb Jones since I consider the prospects after Harper to be roughly similarly tiered until ~9 anyways.

To be fair, I'd also expect Lauri to rebound. Last year was an all time bad vibe, getting fined for healthy scratching guys (Collins and Lauri).

If we're still able to get "our guy" at 5, and we swap PG for Lauri - I think it's worth pursuing. We save a little money on his contract and get a lot younger. If Embiid never plays again, at least Maxey and McCain have a Co-Star under 30 who will excel in PNR with them.

[Iscull]

Seperately, I feel that Markkenen and Yabu could play pretty well together.

[the_process]

I just wish that NO had six instead of seven.

I'd assume we only make this deal if our evaluators are convinced by the actual upside swings in Maluach or Essengue, or a Kasparas/CMB/Queen/Bryant.

I'd bet Fears goes between 5-8, as well.

[the_process]

MIA gets PG and EG
PHI gets Lauri, C Williams, and 5
UTA gets Wiggins, Rozier, Larsson, 3, and 20

[KramerDSP]

Under the hypothetical that Ace has a 5% chance of surpassing Trey Murphy III’s level as a player, a 30% chance of being at Murphy’s level right now, and a 65% chance of never getting to Murphy’s level, I think #7 + Murphy for #3 is the home run swing to make. Maybe Murphy becomes the second “Harden” player that Morey steals from another team just as they’re ascending.

[Stanford]

#7 + Murphy for #3

We look delusional saying stuff like this.

[the_process]

Under the hypothetical that Ace has a 5% chance of surpassing Trey Murphy III’s level as a player, a 30% chance of being at Murphy’s level right now, and a 65% chance of never getting to Murphy’s level, I think #7 + Murphy for #3 is the home run swing to make. Maybe Murphy becomes the second “Harden” player that Morey steals from another team just as they’re ascending.

Problem with Trey is matching his money. They can't even stack crappy contracts, they don't have enough. It requires moving one of Joel, PG, Maxey, or McCain. If NOP will take a S&T Grimes or Yabusele maybe that works instead? Rather keep Grimes, though. And I feel like if they use their MLE to re-sign Yabu even if they immediately trade him they still get the 1st apron hard cap.

So now you're trying to add PG into the deal, which complicates things. Unless Dumars considers PG a positive?

Oubre, PG, and 3 for Trey, CJ, and 7.

Sixers could try to re-flip McCollum?

[ProcessDoctor]

1. Draft Edgecombe at #3

2. 3-way trade-
BOS gets: Robinson
MIA gets: Embiid
PHI gets: Wiggins, Porzingis, #20, 2027 BOS 1st, 2029 MIA 1st

3. Draft Flemming at #20


Maxey/McCain/Butler
Grimes/Edgecombe/Gordon
Wiggins/Edwards/Council
George/Flemming/(#35)
Porzingis/Bona/Drummond

[the_process]

1. Draft Edgecombe at #3

2. 3-way trade-
BOS gets: Robinson
MIA gets: Embiid
PHI gets: Wiggins, Porzingis, #20, 2027 BOS 1st, 2029 MIA 1st

3. Draft Flemming at #20


Maxey/McCain/Butler
Grimes/Edgecombe/Gordon
Wiggins/Edwards/Council
George/Flemming/(#35)
Porzingis/Bona/Drummond

That's a Miami-type move, but they already have Bam.

Not sure who would be desperate enough
to make an offer Morey would take for Embiid.

[the_process]

BKN gets Allen, C Martin, Oubre, Drummond, and 3
PHI gets KD, CamJ, 8, and 28 pick returned
PHX gets Embiid, Gordon, Council, and Walker

Maybe that is something Morey and PHX go for?

[ProcessDoctor]

1. Draft Edgecombe at #3

2. 3-way trade-
BOS gets: Robinson
MIA gets: Embiid
PHI gets: Wiggins, Porzingis, #20, 2027 BOS 1st, 2029 MIA 1st

3. Draft Flemming at #20


Maxey/McCain/Butler
Grimes/Edgecombe/Gordon
Wiggins/Edwards/Council
George/Flemming/(#35)
Porzingis/Bona/Drummond

That's a Miami-type move, but they already have Bam.

Not sure who would be desperate enough
to make an offer Morey would take for Embiid.

They can go double big just fine.

Rozier/Herro
Herro/Jaquez
Highsmith/Anderson
Adebayo/Jovic
Embiid/Ware

I think the teams to look out for RE Embiid are New Orleans, Minnesota, Miami, and Houston.

Believe my process brother. All it takes is one.

[stormi]

I just wish that NO had six instead of seven.

I'd assume we only make this deal if our evaluators are convinced by the actual upside swings in Maluach or Essengue, or a Kasparas/CMB/Queen/Bryant.

I'd bet Fears goes between 5-8, as well.

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[ProcessDoctor]

1. Draft Edgecombe at #3
2. Trade Embiid/Oubre for McCollum/Jones/Olynyk/#7
3. Draft CMB or Maluach at #7

Maxey/McCain/McCollum
Grimes/Edgecombe/Gordon
Jones/Edwards/Council
George/Murray-Boyles/(#35)
Olynyk/Bona/Drummond

Can eventually flip McCollum for a center, or make this a 3-teamer of some sort.

[Iscull]

Throwing out a crazy trade that techinically works on Spotrac...

MIA In: Embiid, Durant, Giannis

MIL In: Herro, Wiggins, Rozier, Robinson, MIA '31 FRP

PHI In: Booker, Highsmith

PHX In: Lilliard, Adebayo, MIA '25 #20, Mia '27 FRP, MIA '29 FRP

Basically,
1) Miami goes all in for the next 2-3 years while Boston rebuilds.
2) Milwaukee pays Giannis back by sending him to a contender - restocks with younger assets and expiring contracts
3) PHI swaps Embiid for Booker. Could still look to trade PG for Lauri.
4) PHX swaps Durant for Lilliard, and Booker for Adebayo and Future Miami first that could be lottery picks

The group least interested in above would probably be Phoenix? They need to figure a way out of their salary cap hell, especially if they can't move Beal.

[the_process]

1. Draft Edgecombe at #3

2. 3-way trade-
BOS gets: Robinson
MIA gets: Embiid
PHI gets: Wiggins, Porzingis, #20, 2027 BOS 1st, 2029 MIA 1st

3. Draft Flemming at #20


Maxey/McCain/Butler
Grimes/Edgecombe/Gordon
Wiggins/Edwards/Council
George/Flemming/(#35)
Porzingis/Bona/Drummond

That's a Miami-type move, but they already have Bam.

Not sure who would be desperate enough
to make an offer Morey would take for Embiid.

They can go double big just fine.

Rozier/Herro
Herro/Jaquez
Highsmith/Anderson
Adebayo/Jovic
Embiid/Ware

I think the teams to look out for RE Embiid are New Orleans, Minnesota, Miami, and Houston.

Believe my process brother. All it takes is one.

PHX makes sense but they have to drop below the 2nd apron as part of it. So a three teamer with BKN as they are the team with cap space to burn. Suns desperately need a C and have too many guards.