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Post#61 » by LloydFree » Tue Jul 5, 2016 5:51 pm

I like it. I don't know how anyone could hate it. We've been desensitized to watching minor league basketball. We don't know what a real NBA player looks like anymore. Gerald Henderson is a legitimate professional basketball player, on a cheap contract. He'll give you everything Evan Tuner could give you, at one-third the cost that Portland is paying the real Evan Turner.
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Post#62 » by UptownPhilly » Tue Jul 5, 2016 6:02 pm

I love it. Good vet on a fair contract. Every move that erases memories of Canaan, Thompson, Marshall away is a good move.
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Post#63 » by 51X3RF4N » Tue Jul 5, 2016 6:07 pm

Was he really good friends with Crabbe in Portland? Could this be a move to not only make a smart signing but also up the interest level of Crabbe?

We can still afford him, and isn't he a SF? I think the Sixers can still give $25M+ per year away. Not saying they should do it, but wouldn't it make sense to full "balance" the roster in that case? You still have enough to draft 2 high rookies next year, and the other contracts that fall off by next season and the one after that, still give you flexibility to go get a star should one become available.
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Post#64 » by Wilfried » Tue Jul 5, 2016 6:11 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DAAinO6j-I

He's pretty spectacular and very welcome

He will provide a very solid veteran presence. Something we missed very hard last season.
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Post#65 » by PhilasFinest » Tue Jul 5, 2016 6:11 pm

I want nothing to do with Crabbe. His expected priced tag is way too rich for my liking. He is NOT worth 17-20M a year....I don't care how much we have to spend.
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Post#66 » by eagereyez » Tue Jul 5, 2016 6:33 pm

wickedwrister wrote:The moves that move the Sixers from 20 wins to 30 wins are really the worst thing for the franchise going forward and the types of things that Hinkie actively avoided.

If the guys that move the Sixers from 20 wins to 30 wins are 1-2 year mercenaries who will leave the team as soon as they get paid, or are mediocre guys on huge long-term contracts, then yeah I agree. Adding wins by itself isn't necessarily a bad thing. What matters is how the Sixers get there. They need to get there organically with good players on good contracts who will be with the team when it's ready to compete. There's no point in sacrificing draft position for mercenaries who ultimately aren't going to be here when the core is ready. That is taking a short-cut to mediocrity.
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Post#67 » by LongLiveHinkie » Tue Jul 5, 2016 6:36 pm

Anything 2 years I'm fine with.
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Post#68 » by rallydurham » Tue Jul 5, 2016 6:43 pm

Well he was there for the 7-59 charlotte season maybe they think he can help guide their rookies through losses
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Post#69 » by cksdayoff » Tue Jul 5, 2016 6:46 pm

Wilfried wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DAAinO6j-I

He's pretty spectacular and very welcome

He will provide a very solid veteran presence. Something we missed very hard last season.


im surprised someone out there is fan enough to create a top 10 plays list for him
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Post#70 » by Foshan » Tue Jul 5, 2016 6:48 pm

Haha his agent
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Post#71 » by ET Da Gawd » Tue Jul 5, 2016 6:51 pm

PhilasFinest wrote:I want nothing to do with Crabbe. His expected priced tag is way too rich for my liking. He is NOT worth 17-20M a year....I don't care how much we have to spend.

Yea, Hendo a much better and easier to manage contract. No need to pay these supplement players big bucks when our young guys should be the focal point anyways


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Post#72 » by deep6er » Tue Jul 5, 2016 6:54 pm

eagereyez wrote:
wickedwrister wrote:The moves that move the Sixers from 20 wins to 30 wins are really the worst thing for the franchise going forward and the types of things that Hinkie actively avoided.

If the guys that move the Sixers from 20 wins to 30 wins are 1-2 year mercenaries who will leave the team as soon as they get paid, or are mediocre guys on huge long-term contracts, then yeah I agree. Adding wins by itself isn't necessarily a bad thing. What matters is how the Sixers get there. They need to get there organically with good players on good contracts who will be with the team when it's ready to compete. There's no point in sacrificing draft position for mercenaries who ultimately aren't going to be here when the core is ready. That is taking a short-cut to mediocrity.



I couldn't disagree more. You're bringing in real NBA players on cheap short contracts. The help teach the youngsters how to play and win and survive in the league. If we draft someone to take their place next year, they easily scoot back to a reserve role and they're already being paid like a reserve, so no big deal. They're off the cap in two years and if they turn out to really flourish here, then we can easily resign two years down the line when we're a much more attractive team than we are right now. The tank is over. It's time to start to win games and having real (mediocre) nba players will help develop our guys a whole lot more than Kendall Marshall will.
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Post#73 » by eagereyez » Tue Jul 5, 2016 6:56 pm

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eagereyez wrote:
wickedwrister wrote:The moves that move the Sixers from 20 wins to 30 wins are really the worst thing for the franchise going forward and the types of things that Hinkie actively avoided.

If the guys that move the Sixers from 20 wins to 30 wins are 1-2 year mercenaries who will leave the team as soon as they get paid, or are mediocre guys on huge long-term contracts, then yeah I agree. Adding wins by itself isn't necessarily a bad thing. What matters is how the Sixers get there. They need to get there organically with good players on good contracts who will be with the team when it's ready to compete. There's no point in sacrificing draft position for mercenaries who ultimately aren't going to be here when the core is ready. That is taking a short-cut to mediocrity.



I couldn't disagree more. You're bringing in real NBA players on cheap short contracts. The help teach the youngsters how to play and win and survive in the league. If we draft someone to take their place next year, they easily scoot back to a reserve role and they're already being paid like a reserve, so no big deal. They're off the cap in two years and if they turn out to really flourish here, then we can easily resign two years down the line when we're a much more attractive team than we are right now. The tank is over. It's time to start to win games and having real (mediocre) nba players will help develop our guys a whole lot more than Kendall Marshall will.

I'm not talking about the cheap vets that BC has brought in. I'm talking about overpaying mediocre guys like Waiters/Lin/Crabbe. The cheap vets are good because they aid in player development, and they aren't going to make a huge difference in the W/L column.
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Post#74 » by broseph13 » Tue Jul 5, 2016 7:06 pm

I like this move. It's a much better option than signing mediocre talent like Crabbe/Turner/Waiters/Barnes/Lin to 4 year deals paying $15+ million a year.
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Post#75 » by deep6er » Tue Jul 5, 2016 7:07 pm

eagereyez wrote:
deep6er wrote:
eagereyez wrote:If the guys that move the Sixers from 20 wins to 30 wins are 1-2 year mercenaries who will leave the team as soon as they get paid, or are mediocre guys on huge long-term contracts, then yeah I agree. Adding wins by itself isn't necessarily a bad thing. What matters is how the Sixers get there. They need to get there organically with good players on good contracts who will be with the team when it's ready to compete. There's no point in sacrificing draft position for mercenaries who ultimately aren't going to be here when the core is ready. That is taking a short-cut to mediocrity.



I couldn't disagree more. You're bringing in real NBA players on cheap short contracts. The help teach the youngsters how to play and win and survive in the league. If we draft someone to take their place next year, they easily scoot back to a reserve role and they're already being paid like a reserve, so no big deal. They're off the cap in two years and if they turn out to really flourish here, then we can easily resign two years down the line when we're a much more attractive team than we are right now. The tank is over. It's time to start to win games and having real (mediocre) nba players will help develop our guys a whole lot more than Kendall Marshall will.

I'm not talking about the cheap vets that BC has brought in. I'm talking about overpaying mediocre guys like Waiters/Lin/Crabbe. The cheap vets are good because they aid in player development, and they aren't going to make a huge difference in the W/L column.



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Re: Welcome Gerald Henderson - 2 years 18 mil 

Post#76 » by Rnd Mnd of Rbnd » Tue Jul 5, 2016 7:11 pm

I don't dislike the deal, but a Sergio + Rudy Fernandez backcourt would've been more fun to watch.
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Post#77 » by ckchen » Tue Jul 5, 2016 7:28 pm

MatthewGeigerII wrote:so does this end FA for us since our roster is at 15 players ish? or does it end some people's dreams of a meeting with crabbe today or what?

i personally don't think it does/ think they can still go for more "vets" or a crabbe and just cut ties with some of the players from last year instead during camp but who knows...

and there is always the possibility of a trade of one of the bigs...

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I think it has to end FA for us. And it fits with BC's stated goal of maintaining cap flexibility, something that signing Crabbe would not, if the 4 yr huge offer from Brooklyn was legitimate. I don't think the Rudy thing is on the table anymore either, but I guess we'll see. That would be a lot more likely than Crabbe at this point. I think that's just wishful thinking from fans who want to bandwagon latch onto every hot name FA just because other teams are looking at them.

Frankly, I think BC has done the right thing. Limit free agency to 1 to 2 yr deals, plug a couple of holes, wait for the right trade for Noel/Okafor. Even at this rate, they're going to have to waive Landry and Marshall. Brett Brown loves Hollis. The only expendable roster space at this point belongs to Stauskas.
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Post#78 » by Wilfried » Tue Jul 5, 2016 7:42 pm

cksdayoff wrote:
Wilfried wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DAAinO6j-I

He's pretty spectacular and very welcome

He will provide a very solid veteran presence. Something we missed very hard last season.


im surprised someone out there is fan enough to create a top 10 plays list for him


Come on, some of those plays are very impressive!
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Post#79 » by SMH » Tue Jul 5, 2016 8:15 pm

I played against him in AAU and Highschool, two ass whoopings lol
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Post#80 » by roma258 » Tue Jul 5, 2016 9:16 pm

ckchen wrote:
MatthewGeigerII wrote:so does this end FA for us since our roster is at 15 players ish? or does it end some people's dreams of a meeting with crabbe today or what?

i personally don't think it does/ think they can still go for more "vets" or a crabbe and just cut ties with some of the players from last year instead during camp but who knows...

and there is always the possibility of a trade of one of the bigs...

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I think it has to end FA for us. And it fits with BC's stated goal of maintaining cap flexibility, something that signing Crabbe would not, if the 4 yr huge offer from Brooklyn was legitimate. I don't think the Rudy thing is on the table anymore either, but I guess we'll see. That would be a lot more likely than Crabbe at this point. I think that's just wishful thinking from fans who want to bandwagon latch onto every hot name FA just because other teams are looking at them.

Frankly, I think BC has done the right thing. Limit free agency to 1 to 2 yr deals, plug a couple of holes, wait for the right trade for Noel/Okafor. Even at this rate, they're going to have to waive Landry and Marshall. Brett Brown loves Hollis. The only expendable roster space at this point belongs to Stauskas.

What I'm excited about is that there will be competition for roster/starting spots. Guys like Hollis and Stauskas should never be guaranteed roster spots. They have to fight and earn them. And now they will. Gerald's a pro and can play the game. If either of our incumbent shooting guards wants to stick around they'll have to fight for it.
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