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I don't understand how people are so unwilling to look at the body of work Brown has presented or feel like they're incapable of evaluating him yet.
You can judge someone's tactical decisions, line-ups, substitutions and player utilization regardless of the talent level they've been given to work with.
Brett is an awful in-game/head coach. He's just a nice guy that can teach the basics. A typical assistant.
You can judge someone's tactical decisions, line-ups, substitutions and player utilization regardless of the talent level they've been given to work with.
Brett is an awful in-game/head coach. He's just a nice guy that can teach the basics. A typical assistant.
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phifans wrote:TTP wrote:phifans wrote:
Im wondering who has been improved under BB the past three years and I cant recall anyone.
Jerami Grant and Richaun have improved significantly from when they were drafted. Hollis has improved some from when he joined the team. Ish Smith can probably be grouped here as well. I'd also consider listing Embiid here but hard to say because we don't know how he would have played two years ago (I'd imagine not as well as he is now).
Who cares these bench warmers when your core prospects failed to improve (MCW , Noel , Okafor etc.)
Okafor has improved a lot, in his 60 some games, but I'm not talking only about Brown's time with the Sixers.
The only players that are still here from his first year are Noel and Hollis. I'm talking about over his career.
He gets a lot of credit for players improving on the Spurs.
Let's also not forget how well the Sixers were playing in the month prior to the MCW trade. When he has had stability, he has improved players.
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Kobblehead wrote:I don't understand how people are so unwilling to look at the body of work Brown has presented or feel like they're incapable of evaluating him yet.
You can judge someone's tactical decisions, line-ups, substitutions and player utilization regardless of the talent level they've been given to work with.
Brett is an awful in-game/head coach. He's just a nice guy that can teach the basics. A typical assistant.
Who is the best coach in the league at what you are saying Brown is bad at, and how many more wins would that coach have produced?
There is no strategy or tactical plan that can make what we have had work. That is my point. I'm not saying that Brown is good or bad at it. I'm saying that he hasn't had the horses to carry out whatever the proper tactics are.
When you only have bad options, you can't evaluate the tactics.
There is no proper way to make TJ, Canaan, and Thompson execute a play.
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I believe that Brown is instrumental in TJ being on the roster so I would never tie another coach to TJ in any "what if" scenarios. Another coach would probably insist that an NBA veteran like Jameer Nelson be acquired to play with all of these young front court players.Right now the Sixers are trying to force Henderson onto the young players as a veteran. They do not respect him in that way because he is barely an NBA player.
SelfishPlayer wrote:The Mavs won playoff games without Luka
The Mavs missed the playoffs without Brunson.
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I love Brett and was apart of the "can't judge him with this crap" brigade.
IDK.
We suck but I don't think we suck as bad as we did last year and yet the same ole **** is there. Embiid is better than Noel and Jah. Jah off the bench fixes the bench scoring issue. Sergio, while not perfect and probably not starter quality, is better than Ish for his size and shooting alone (even if his defense is just as bad lol). And while I hate his game Hendo is probably the best SG we have had in a while (sadly). So each of the main flaws have been improved even if marginally. The offense looks better by virtue of not passing up open shots because they aren't 3s ...and Embiid. But the **** starts out of break and the strange end of game play calling and lineups (which TBF is hamstrung by minutes rescrictions) are still there. Its also weird that his doghouse isn't consistant. Cov used to get benched for **** play and yet this year he is still out there slangin bricks. Yeah we are short staff but when Hollis had his one good game of the month, he should have been out there instead of Covington for example. Dario shouldn't have played as much during the games he was off. We should NEVER have nothing but bench players in the game. Its the small stuff that adds up overtime. Thats whats killing us.
I'm not saying he should be fired on the spot because that solves nothing and midseason coaching changes generally don't work well IMO (I think its better that a coach gets a whole offseason to work with), Plus I want to see Brett coach Simmons up; see us at our full potential or near that. THEN make a decision. I'd love to compete right now but eh.
That being said, I cannot cape for Brett anymore. His flaws are evident and he hasn't made any adjustments. Yeah he still probably has the worst talent to work with but still. The Brett we saw in his first year with Turner and Hawes, made what he had work to the best of his ability. Hell even the MCW/KJ year...since then its all downhill And now I am not sure its just the talents fault.
IDK.
We suck but I don't think we suck as bad as we did last year and yet the same ole **** is there. Embiid is better than Noel and Jah. Jah off the bench fixes the bench scoring issue. Sergio, while not perfect and probably not starter quality, is better than Ish for his size and shooting alone (even if his defense is just as bad lol). And while I hate his game Hendo is probably the best SG we have had in a while (sadly). So each of the main flaws have been improved even if marginally. The offense looks better by virtue of not passing up open shots because they aren't 3s ...and Embiid. But the **** starts out of break and the strange end of game play calling and lineups (which TBF is hamstrung by minutes rescrictions) are still there. Its also weird that his doghouse isn't consistant. Cov used to get benched for **** play and yet this year he is still out there slangin bricks. Yeah we are short staff but when Hollis had his one good game of the month, he should have been out there instead of Covington for example. Dario shouldn't have played as much during the games he was off. We should NEVER have nothing but bench players in the game. Its the small stuff that adds up overtime. Thats whats killing us.
I'm not saying he should be fired on the spot because that solves nothing and midseason coaching changes generally don't work well IMO (I think its better that a coach gets a whole offseason to work with), Plus I want to see Brett coach Simmons up; see us at our full potential or near that. THEN make a decision. I'd love to compete right now but eh.
That being said, I cannot cape for Brett anymore. His flaws are evident and he hasn't made any adjustments. Yeah he still probably has the worst talent to work with but still. The Brett we saw in his first year with Turner and Hawes, made what he had work to the best of his ability. Hell even the MCW/KJ year...since then its all downhill And now I am not sure its just the talents fault.
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Ericb5 wrote:Kobblehead wrote:I don't understand how people are so unwilling to look at the body of work Brown has presented or feel like they're incapable of evaluating him yet.
You can judge someone's tactical decisions, line-ups, substitutions and player utilization regardless of the talent level they've been given to work with.
Brett is an awful in-game/head coach. He's just a nice guy that can teach the basics. A typical assistant.
Who is the best coach in the league at what you are saying Brown is bad at, and how many more wins would that coach have produced?
There is no strategy or tactical plan that can make what we have had work. That is my point. I'm not saying that Brown is good or bad at it. I'm saying that he hasn't had the horses to carry out whatever the proper tactics are.
When you only have bad options, you can't evaluate the tactics.
There is no proper way to make TJ, Canaan, and Thompson execute a play.
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Brad Stevens would get the most out of the guy's we have. I have no doubt about that. He always does. You can't tell me that Stevens would not have a few more wins and the the team would be more functional. I think we would see fewer blowouts with Stevens as coach. We may not win but the team would look more organized on offense and defense. The talent spike still suck but they would look better.
Bud in Atlanta would have our team looking better. Popp would have the Sixers looking better. Walton would. Doc Rivers would. They all would still have losing records and be a bottom 5 team every year but youn would see better organization.
How many current NBA coaches would you take Brown over? For me there would be very few if any at all.
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Kobblehead wrote:I don't understand how people are so unwilling to look at the body of work Brown has presented or feel like they're incapable of evaluating him yet.
You can judge someone's tactical decisions, line-ups, substitutions and player utilization regardless of the talent level they've been given to work with.
Brett is an awful in-game/head coach. He's just a nice guy that can teach the basics. A typical assistant.
This is an uninformed post. You can't judge a coach's decision if the players are incapable of executing them. The Sixers roster has been full of players who can't compete physically or mentally in the NBA.
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Unbreakable99 wrote:Ericb5 wrote:Kobblehead wrote:I don't understand how people are so unwilling to look at the body of work Brown has presented or feel like they're incapable of evaluating him yet.
You can judge someone's tactical decisions, line-ups, substitutions and player utilization regardless of the talent level they've been given to work with.
Brett is an awful in-game/head coach. He's just a nice guy that can teach the basics. A typical assistant.
Who is the best coach in the league at what you are saying Brown is bad at, and how many more wins would that coach have produced?
There is no strategy or tactical plan that can make what we have had work. That is my point. I'm not saying that Brown is good or bad at it. I'm saying that he hasn't had the horses to carry out whatever the proper tactics are.
When you only have bad options, you can't evaluate the tactics.
There is no proper way to make TJ, Canaan, and Thompson execute a play.
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Brad Stevens would get the most out of the guy's we have. I have no doubt about that. He always does. You can't tell me that Stevens would not have a few more wins and the the team would be more functional. I think we would see fewer blowouts with Stevens as coach. We may not win but the team would look more organized on offense and defense. The talent spike still suck but they would look better.
Bud in Atlanta would have our team looking better. Popp would have the Sixers looking better. Walton would. Doc Rivers would. They all would still have losing records and be a bottom 5 team every year but youn would see better organization.
How many current NBA coaches would you take Brown over? For me there would be very few if any at all.
BS would've won 10 games last year. I'm not saying BB is a NBA coach. But he's not been given the chance to coach an NBA team. That's a shortfall of the process that we have to except. BB may be the luckiest coach ever. He just may have been given 3 years in the NBA that he didn't deserve.
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Unbreakable99 wrote:Ericb5 wrote:Kobblehead wrote:I don't understand how people are so unwilling to look at the body of work Brown has presented or feel like they're incapable of evaluating him yet.
You can judge someone's tactical decisions, line-ups, substitutions and player utilization regardless of the talent level they've been given to work with.
Brett is an awful in-game/head coach. He's just a nice guy that can teach the basics. A typical assistant.
Who is the best coach in the league at what you are saying Brown is bad at, and how many more wins would that coach have produced?
There is no strategy or tactical plan that can make what we have had work. That is my point. I'm not saying that Brown is good or bad at it. I'm saying that he hasn't had the horses to carry out whatever the proper tactics are.
When you only have bad options, you can't evaluate the tactics.
There is no proper way to make TJ, Canaan, and Thompson execute a play.
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Brad Stevens would get the most out of the guy's we have. I have no doubt about that. He always does. You can't tell me that Stevens would not have a few more wins and the the team would be more functional. I think we would see fewer blowouts with Stevens as coach. We may not win but the team would look more organized on offense and defense. The talent spike still suck but they would look better.
Bud in Atlanta would have our team looking better. Popp would have the Sixers looking better. Walton would. Doc Rivers would. They all would still have losing records and be a bottom 5 team every year but youn would see better organization.
How many current NBA coaches would you take Brown over? For me there would be very few if any at all.
To your last question I say that I don't know. I'm not arguing that Brown is a good coach for a team trying to make the playoffs. I'm arguing that he deserves a chance to see if he is that guy.
Further, I'm arguing that he isn't to blame for our poor performance given the comically bad rosters that we have had. What ruffles my feathers is when people watch our team look horrible, and argue that we need to change the coach. The coach isn't the problem.
I think that the people who are complaining about his X's and O's are actually just blaming him for the team being a joke, and not giving him the benefit of the doubt that he deserves. Much like the Okafor playing defense debate, I'm not arguing that he is good. I'm arguing that he deserves a chance.
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bedjawII wrote:This is an uninformed post.
Hi, I'm Kobblehead. You must not have met me before.
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Unbreakable99 wrote:Ericb5 wrote:Kobblehead wrote:I don't understand how people are so unwilling to look at the body of work Brown has presented or feel like they're incapable of evaluating him yet.
You can judge someone's tactical decisions, line-ups, substitutions and player utilization regardless of the talent level they've been given to work with.
Brett is an awful in-game/head coach. He's just a nice guy that can teach the basics. A typical assistant.
Who is the best coach in the league at what you are saying Brown is bad at, and how many more wins would that coach have produced?
There is no strategy or tactical plan that can make what we have had work. That is my point. I'm not saying that Brown is good or bad at it. I'm saying that he hasn't had the horses to carry out whatever the proper tactics are.
When you only have bad options, you can't evaluate the tactics.
There is no proper way to make TJ, Canaan, and Thompson execute a play.
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Brad Stevens would get the most out of the guy's we have. I have no doubt about that. He always does. You can't tell me that Stevens would not have a few more wins and the the team would be more functional. I think we would see fewer blowouts with Stevens as coach. We may not win but the team would look more organized on offense and defense. The talent spike still suck but they would look better.
Bud in Atlanta would have our team looking better. Popp would have the Sixers looking better. Walton would. Doc Rivers would. They all would still have losing records and be a bottom 5 team every year but youn would see better organization.
How many current NBA coaches would you take Brown over? For me there would be very few if any at all.
The Sixers average 14 wide open 3s a game and shoot 34% on them. The Celtics average 13 wide open 3s a game and shoot 43% on them.
Stevens is good but he's not some wizard. At the end of the day you can draw up an offense that gets people open shots, guys still have to hit them.
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i really believe BB is gone after this season anyway.
Colangelo will hire some established "name" coach to "take this to the next level" like a George Karl type. (not Karl but someone like that)
Colangelo will hire some established "name" coach to "take this to the next level" like a George Karl type. (not Karl but someone like that)
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Terrible coach. Another prime example tonight.
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snoopdogg88 wrote:i really believe BB is gone after this season anyway.
Colangelo will hire some established "name" coach to "take this to the next level" like a George Karl type. (not Karl but someone like that)
I honestly think they go after Nash.
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I still think that Brett will be here the rest of the season.
But tonight makes me hope the end of the season gets here quickly.
But tonight makes me hope the end of the season gets here quickly.
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Awful decisions by him. He fails every freakin time at the end of games!
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Ive been done with hime for a while. Good dude, great accent, second rate coach. Need to do better.
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There's a reason Brett didn't even get a single head coaching interview despite all his years of being a disciple of Pop. He just doesn't have the aptitude for running a team and being a tactician during games.
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We need to move on. Who are some good candidates for replacement?
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Or at the very least, allow him to be figurehead and hire an assistant who can make in game adjustments and draw up effective plays.