The curious case of Thybulle

Embiid P · Post #61 » by **Embiid P** » Sun Jan 29, 2023 10:08 pm

Stanford wrote:12 million for Matisse Thybulle? He can't even get on the court

Hey, if he takes less than that, I'd be thrilled. It's just that defensive players of his caliber are hard to come by.

the_process · Post #62 » by **the_process** » Sun Jan 29, 2023 10:13 pm

ProcessDoctor wrote:
Stanford wrote:
ProcessDoctor wrote:Just putting this out there - Tisse is 4th in Defensive RAPTOR (> 400 minutes played).

What's Jokic?

Lol he's 12th. Don't let that discredit the tool for you though...

On a similar note, it sounds like a lot of you are completely out on him?

Not all out. Mostly out, because I think he's going to want much more money than he's worth. Anything over 10M per and I would just try to work out a S&T.

the_process · Post #63 » by **the_process** » Sun Jan 29, 2023 10:15 pm

Embiid P wrote:
HardenGoat wrote:I think he’s doing a fine job and is our best overall defender in terms of disrupting the other teams star players. He shut down Lillard who later went on to drop a 60 piece. I say keep him

It all depends on what he's willing to take in the offseason. I think realistically, he'll command somewhere in the 10-12 million per range. Any more than that and I think we let him walk.

Based off nothing, I suspect he asks for 3-45. JMO.

Post #64 » by **Stanford** » Sun Jan 29, 2023 10:17 pm

Embiid P wrote:
Stanford wrote:12 million for Matisse Thybulle? He can't even get on the court

Hey, if he takes less than that, I'd be thrilled. It's just that defensive players of his caliber are hard to come by.

Andre Roberson can't get a damn NBA contract!

HardenGoat · Post #65 » by **HardenGoat** » Sun Jan 29, 2023 10:39 pm

I think Harris is going deep into the tax next year which means Thybulle will represent a salary that can be used to get a significant player in a sign and trade scenario. I can’t see how trading him by the deadline would be beneficial considering he’s our best wing defender right now. He has proven he is useful in protecting leads in games and he can disrupt the other teams stars when they get in a groove. It seems we have plenty of offensive punch right now and if anything we need to maintain or better our defense. I guess the question could be how much do we trust our shooters outside of the stars when playoffs approach. Niang has been huge, can he maintain that?

Sportfan73 · Post #66 » by **Sportfan73** » Sun Jan 29, 2023 11:15 pm

the_process wrote:
Embiid P wrote:
HardenGoat wrote:I think he’s doing a fine job and is our best overall defender in terms of disrupting the other teams star players. He shut down Lillard who later went on to drop a 60 piece. I say keep him

It all depends on what he's willing to take in the offseason. I think realistically, he'll command somewhere in the 10-12 million per range. Any more than that and I think we let him walk.

Based off nothing, I suspect he asks for 3-45. JMO.

Unless he starts getting more minutes or a bigger role I think 3/30 is his ceiling

Bum Adebayo · Post #67 » by **Bum Adebayo** » Sun Jan 29, 2023 11:33 pm

You guys have lost your mind if you think Thybulle is worth 12mil, like come on, can't you learn from past mistakrs about overpaying useless players? what's next, Maxey being worth th max or near max money?

Sportfan73 · Post #68 » by **Sportfan73** » Sun Jan 29, 2023 11:44 pm

Bum Adebayo wrote:You guys have lost your mind if you think Thybulle is worth 12mil, like come on, can't you learn from past mistakrs about overpaying useless players? what's next, Maxey being worth th max or near max money?

That is quite literally next

the_process · Post #69 » by **the_process** » Sun Jan 29, 2023 11:45 pm

Sportfan73 wrote:
Bum Adebayo wrote:You guys have lost your mind if you think Thybulle is worth 12mil, like come on, can't you learn from past mistakrs about overpaying useless players? what's next, Maxey being worth th max or near max money?

That is quite literally next

Harden first, then Maxey. But point taken.

Bum Adebayo · Post #70 » by **Bum Adebayo** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 12:03 am

There is a huge gap between Harden and Maxey, what are we even talking about here?

Sportfan73 · Post #71 » by **Sportfan73** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 12:04 am

Bum Adebayo wrote:There is a huge gap between Harden and Maxey, what are we even talking about here?

I’m not arguing their value or talent. But maxey will get very close to the max. Poole/herro money

ProcessDoctor · Post #72 » by **ProcessDoctor** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 12:41 am

I think it would be unwise to let him walk for nothing. If Maxey was a better facilitator, I would feel comfortable just letting Thybulle soak up all of Shake’s minutes next year, who will also be looking to get paid.

Negrodamus · Post #73 » by **Negrodamus** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 12:50 am

Bum Adebayo wrote:There is a huge gap between Harden and Maxey, what are we even talking about here?

Where does Tobias fit in this gap and why will he get paid more than both of them?

Sportfan73 · Post #74 » by **Sportfan73** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 5:08 am

I think thybulle is back somewhere from 7-10 per over 3 years

76ciology · Post #75 » by **76ciology** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 5:51 am

Sportfan73 wrote:
Bum Adebayo wrote:There is a huge gap between Harden and Maxey, what are we even talking about here?

I’m not arguing their value or talent. But maxey will get very close to the max. Poole/herro money

How much for Melton?

Sportfan73 · Post #76 » by **Sportfan73** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 6:05 am

76ciology wrote:
Sportfan73 wrote:
Bum Adebayo wrote:There is a huge gap between Harden and Maxey, what are we even talking about here?

I’m not arguing their value or talent. But maxey will get very close to the max. Poole/herro money

How much for Melton?

15-20 probably depending on cap I would think

76ciology · Post #77 » by **76ciology** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 6:21 am

Sportfan73 wrote:
76ciology wrote:
Sportfan73 wrote:I’m not arguing their value or talent. But maxey will get very close to the max. Poole/herro money

How much for Melton?

15-20 probably depending on cap I would think

I have a feeling we’re gonna have Springer or Thybulle replace Melton. Then re-sign Maxey (30-35M) and Tobi (15-20M contract)

With what we have now, I think its easier to replace Melton.

I also dont mind trading both Melton and Tobias for a clear upgrade player with a $20M contract next season.

At this point all this discussion is moot point for a lot can happen from now till then

Sportfan73 · Post #78 » by **Sportfan73** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 7:31 am

76ciology wrote:
Sportfan73 wrote:
76ciology wrote:
How much for Melton?

15-20 probably depending on cap I would think

I have a feeling we’re gonna have Springer or Thybulle replace Melton. Then re-sign Maxey (30-35M) and Tobi (15-20M contract)

With what we have now, I think its easier to replace Melton.

I also dont mind trading both Melton and Tobias for a clear upgrade player with a $20M contract next season.

At this point all this discussion is moot point for a lot can happen from now till then

Yeah idk melton is 24 and fits really well with everyone. I could see him getting another contract from us

76ciology · Post #79 » by **76ciology** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 9:49 am

Sportfan73 wrote:
76ciology wrote:
Sportfan73 wrote:15-20 probably depending on cap I would think

I have a feeling we’re gonna have Springer or Thybulle replace Melton. Then re-sign Maxey (30-35M) and Tobi (15-20M contract)

With what we have now, I think its easier to replace Melton.

I also dont mind trading both Melton and Tobias for a clear upgrade player with a $20M contract next season.

At this point all this discussion is moot point for a lot can happen from now till then

Yeah idk melton is 24 and fits really well with everyone. I could see him getting another contract from us

We’d definitely would love to retain him. But it depends on his asking price for his next contract.

phillynative · Post #80 » by **phillynative** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 6:28 pm

76ciology wrote:
Sportfan73 wrote:
76ciology wrote:
How much for Melton?

15-20 probably depending on cap I would think

I have a feeling we’re gonna have Springer or Thybulle replace Melton. Then re-sign Maxey (30-35M) and Tobi (15-20M contract)

With what we have now, I think its easier to replace Melton.

I also dont mind trading both Melton and Tobias for a clear upgrade player with a $20M contract next season.

At this point all this discussion is moot point for a lot can happen from now till then

This was a hopeful wishful thinking of mine. That Springer somehow showed some actual nba skillset as a 2way player that makes Melton replaceable as a trade asset.

Right now the roster has alot of guard depth in front of him and hes very young...But I wouldn't be surprised if Springer is already better offensively than Matisse and with some seasoning can be close to the defender or just as good as Melton. He would probably play more of a Melton role than a Matisse role, so his 3pt shot has to improve.Melton's 3pt shot has been a revelation didnt know he would be so efficient as C&S.

Melton is the only 2 way player we have other than Embiid and maybe Tobi. So he's very valuable for this team right now added to the fact that he can play with anyone with out much of a fit issue.