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Re: Jeff Teague for Nerlens Noel discussed, not imminent 

Post#601 » by Chamberlainship » Sun Jun 5, 2016 3:08 pm

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The lottery party was done by the ricky podcast. They advertised it with a billboard with hinkies face on it, gave out shirts with hinkies face on them, people chanted "thank you hinkie" after we won etc. It takes some serious mental gymnastics to say that party wasn't pro hinkie.


http://www.libertyballers.com/2016/5/16/11685706/the-2016-rights-to-ricky-sanchez-liberty-ballers-lottery-party-come


"The Sixers have the opportunity to end up with the 1st and 4th overall picks, in addition to #24 and #26 they're guaranteed. We will put aside our Processy/Prokaforic differences and band together in hopes that this whack-ass organization gets a little lucky. We need it. The Sixers might not deserve it, but we sure as hell do. Come flip **** with other Strapazoids either way."

I would've probably gone to that, and I have issues with the tank. After a couple of beers and winning the #1 pick, I would've been chanting along with whatever. Being part of the mob is part of the fun of being a fan. I'm not sure all this proves anything more than some philly.com poll. Also, the money went to charity, according to that flyer.


Like I said, mental gymnastics.


Discerning public opinion from clips of fans reacting at a party, message board posts, and philly.com polls may leave some room for bias. But the owner who hired him demoted him. That speaks for itself.
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Re: Jeff Teague for Nerlens Noel discussed, not imminent 

Post#602 » by HartfordWhalers » Sun Jun 5, 2016 3:13 pm

Chamberlainship wrote:Discerning public opinion from clips of fans reacting at a party, message board posts, and philly.com polls may leave some room for bias. But the owner who hired him demoted him. That speaks for itself.


the Sixers have dropped in our rankings after Hinkie's departure, primarily because we dropped their management score from No. 15 to No. 20.


http://espn.go.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/15702206/2016-nba-future-power-rankings-kevin-pelton-chad-ford#4

So, we have a whole lot of public opinion and analysts saying the Sixers ownership **** up. But maybe everyone is just biased, and the owners didn't? Feels like a lot of sand to use to cover one's head, and yet I'm still not sure its enough.
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Re: Jeff Teague for Nerlens Noel discussed, not imminent 

Post#603 » by BullyKing » Sun Jun 5, 2016 3:16 pm

Chamberlainship wrote:
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http://www.libertyballers.com/2016/5/16/11685706/the-2016-rights-to-ricky-sanchez-liberty-ballers-lottery-party-come


"The Sixers have the opportunity to end up with the 1st and 4th overall picks, in addition to #24 and #26 they're guaranteed. We will put aside our Processy/Prokaforic differences and band together in hopes that this whack-ass organization gets a little lucky. We need it. The Sixers might not deserve it, but we sure as hell do. Come flip **** with other Strapazoids either way."

I would've probably gone to that, and I have issues with the tank. After a couple of beers and winning the #1 pick, I would've been chanting along with whatever. Being part of the mob is part of the fun of being a fan. I'm not sure all this proves anything more than some philly.com poll. Also, the money went to charity, according to that flyer.


Like I said, mental gymnastics.


Discerning public opinion from clips of fans reacting at a party, message board posts, and philly.com polls may leave some room for bias. But the owner who hired him demoted him. That speaks for itself.


Do you understand how ridiculous you are? You made a completely unsupported statements that the majority of Sixers fans were thrilled when Hinkie stepped down. Then you just marginalize all the evidence provided to you that your belief is inaccurate yet somehow have not offered a single piece of evidence to support your assertion.
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Re: Jeff Teague for Nerlens Noel discussed, not imminent 

Post#604 » by Sixerscan » Sun Jun 5, 2016 3:36 pm

Chamberlainship wrote:
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Chamberlainship wrote:
http://www.libertyballers.com/2016/5/16/11685706/the-2016-rights-to-ricky-sanchez-liberty-ballers-lottery-party-come


"The Sixers have the opportunity to end up with the 1st and 4th overall picks, in addition to #24 and #26 they're guaranteed. We will put aside our Processy/Prokaforic differences and band together in hopes that this whack-ass organization gets a little lucky. We need it. The Sixers might not deserve it, but we sure as hell do. Come flip **** with other Strapazoids either way."

I would've probably gone to that, and I have issues with the tank. After a couple of beers and winning the #1 pick, I would've been chanting along with whatever. Being part of the mob is part of the fun of being a fan. I'm not sure all this proves anything more than some philly.com poll. Also, the money went to charity, according to that flyer.


Like I said, mental gymnastics.


Discerning public opinion from clips of fans reacting at a party, message board posts, and philly.com polls may leave some room for bias. But the owner who hired him demoted him. That speaks for itself.


If you say so. I look forward to your floor routine in Rio.
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Re: Jeff Teague for Nerlens Noel discussed, not imminent 

Post#605 » by Easymoney » Sun Jun 5, 2016 3:53 pm

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sixers23 wrote:didnt say he is anthony bennett but he is one of those players you cant win with. Even if he becomes a star in stats he will be a carmelo type you cant build a winner around


I said you make him sound like Anthony Bennett, and we never won anything with Allen Iverson...Are you saying Iverson had empty stats and you would have rather not had him here? Show me legitimate proof that states that you cannot build a winning team with Jahlil Okafor a part of. Keep in mind, I agree with you....Building around him is not the best idea, but please...Tell me why he can't be part of a core that wins.

bc hes a center who does nothing well on defense or rebounds the ball which are musts for a center

Are you regurgitating a canned line you got from a so-called journalist or did you actually roll up your sleeves to properly evaluate Okafor as a prospect?

It has already been posted numerous times in this forum that Okafor's DTRG improved during the second half of the season and actually paced well when compared with KAT's DRTG. Brett Brown seems to think Okafor can become a better 2-way player, he said so on 97.5 a few days ago during an interview.

Jah is also not Allen Iverson or Carmello Anthony and that comparison is lazy at best, irresponsible at worst. We're talking about a kid who could be spending his off season partying and being a socialite, yet instead chose to take college classes at Duke and work on his game. This kid is serious about becoming a great big man in this league and it would be downright foolish to let him go after a solid rookie campaign when judged in context. According to Brett Brown, Okafor is a very coachable player.

No rookie would've been a world beater playing on our team this year. If KAT was on the Sixers, he wouldn't have been ROY. If Okafor switched places with him, he would've won rookie of the year. Do you guys really think that it's not an advantage to play with a top 20 PG in Rubio all year (Okafor played with a Dleague PG until he got a backup NBA guard in ISH Smith for the second half), have another 20 ppg player on your team drawing attention (who was our 2nd scorer?), and be mentored by a legit all-time great in KG?

How would KAT done the year playing next to arguably the worst supporting cast in NBA History? Would he have been as efficient offensively if he had Okafor's usage rate during the first half? How would he have handled the constant double teams? Would his dleague point guard have gotten him the ball in his spots to maximize his offensive efficiency? The answer to all of these questions is a resounding NO. Hell, I am willing to bet his defensive numbers would take a hit, just like Noel's did. With our horrid perimeter defense this year, being our rim protector would've been comparable to playing Tetris on the hardest difficulty.

If KAT played on our team last year, some of you guys would be calling to trade him for draft picks to build around Simmons/Embiid and I would still be that guy saying that we should give him another chance to play with a real team. I would be defending him on this board against the ROY Okafor and saying we should use context and ignore the journalist nonsense being spewed about him never being able to improve.
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Re: Jeff Teague for Nerlens Noel discussed, not imminent 

Post#606 » by sixers23 » Sun Jun 5, 2016 4:17 pm

Easymoney wrote:
sixers23 wrote:
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I said you make him sound like Anthony Bennett, and we never won anything with Allen Iverson...Are you saying Iverson had empty stats and you would have rather not had him here? Show me legitimate proof that states that you cannot build a winning team with Jahlil Okafor a part of. Keep in mind, I agree with you....Building around him is not the best idea, but please...Tell me why he can't be part of a core that wins.

bc hes a center who does nothing well on defense or rebounds the ball which are musts for a center

Are you regurgitating a canned line you got from a so-called journalist or did you actually roll up your sleeves to properly evaluate Okafor as a prospect?

It has already been posted numerous times in this forum that Okafor's DTRG improved during the second half of the season and actually paced well when compared with KAT's DRTG. Brett Brown seems to think Okafor can become a better 2-way player, he said so on 97.5 a few days ago during an interview.

Jah is also not Allen Iverson or Carmello Anthony and that comparison is lazy at best, irresponsible at worst. We're talking about a kid who could be spending his off season partying and being a socialite, yet instead chose to take college classes at Duke and work on his game. This kid is serious about becoming a great big man in this league and it would be downright foolish to let him go after a solid rookie campaign when judged in context. According to Brett Brown, Okafor is a very coachable player.

No rookie would've been a world beater playing on our team this year. If KAT was on the Sixers, he wouldn't have been ROY. If Okafor switched places with him, he would've won rookie of the year. Do you guys really think that it's not an advantage to play with a top 20 PG in Rubio all year (Okafor played with a Dleague PG until he got a backup NBA guard in ISH Smith for the second half), have another 20 ppg player on your team drawing attention (who was our 2nd scorer?), and be mentored by a legit all-time great in KG?

How would KAT done the year playing next to arguably the worst supporting cast in NBA History? Would he have been as efficient offensively if he had Okafor's usage rate during the first half? How would he have handled the constant double teams? Would his dleague point guard have gotten him the ball in his spots to maximize his offensive efficiency? The answer to all of these questions is a resounding NO. Hell, I am willing to bet his defensive numbers would take a hit, just like Noel's did. With our horrid perimeter defense this year, being our rim protector would've been comparable to playing Tetris on the hardest difficulty.

If KAT played on our team last year, some of you guys would be calling to trade him for draft picks to build around Simmons/Embiid and I would still be that guy saying that we should give him another chance to play with a real team. I would be defending him on this board against the ROY Okafor and saying we should use context and ignore the journalist nonsense being spewed about him never being able to improve.[/quote

lmao ive watched him plays for years man sorry but im not even gonna bother reading your post i know what im talking about and youre not gonna change my mind bc you have some blinded love for him
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Post#607 » by Easymoney » Sun Jun 5, 2016 4:22 pm

sixers23 wrote:
Easymoney wrote:
sixers23 wrote:bc hes a center who does nothing well on defense or rebounds the ball which are musts for a center

Are you regurgitating a canned line you got from a so-called journalist or did you actually roll up your sleeves to properly evaluate Okafor as a prospect?

It has already been posted numerous times in this forum that Okafor's DTRG improved during the second half of the season and actually paced well when compared with KAT's DRTG. Brett Brown seems to think Okafor can become a better 2-way player, he said so on 97.5 a few days ago during an interview.

Jah is also not Allen Iverson or Carmello Anthony and that comparison is lazy at best, irresponsible at worst. We're talking about a kid who could be spending his off season partying and being a socialite, yet instead chose to take college classes at Duke and work on his game. This kid is serious about becoming a great big man in this league and it would be downright foolish to let him go after a solid rookie campaign when judged in context. According to Brett Brown, Okafor is a very coachable player.

No rookie would've been a world beater playing on our team this year. If KAT was on the Sixers, he wouldn't have been ROY. If Okafor switched places with him, he would've won rookie of the year. Do you guys really think that it's not an advantage to play with a top 20 PG in Rubio all year (Okafor played with a Dleague PG until he got a backup NBA guard in ISH Smith for the second half), have another 20 ppg player on your team drawing attention (who was our 2nd scorer?), and be mentored by a legit all-time great in KG?

How would KAT done the year playing next to arguably the worst supporting cast in NBA History? Would he have been as efficient offensively if he had Okafor's usage rate during the first half? How would he have handled the constant double teams? Would his dleague point guard have gotten him the ball in his spots to maximize his offensive efficiency? The answer to all of these questions is a resounding NO. Hell, I am willing to bet his defensive numbers would take a hit, just like Noel's did. With our horrid perimeter defense this year, being our rim protector would've been comparable to playing Tetris on the hardest difficulty.

If KAT played on our team last year, some of you guys would be calling to trade him for draft picks to build around Simmons/Embiid and I would still be that guy saying that we should give him another chance to play with a real team. I would be defending him on this board against the ROY Okafor and saying we should use context and ignore the journalist nonsense being spewed about him never being able to improve.

sixers23 wrote:lmao ive watched him plays for years man sorry but im not even gonna bother reading your post i know what im talking about and youre not gonna change my mind bc you have some blinded love for him


You know what you read from other people. ;)

To be fair, I would have the same "blind love" for KAT when trying to convince you it would be foolish to trade him this year.

What do you have to say about Okafor's improved drtg during the second half of this season. Gonna ignore that, my friend?
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Post#608 » by sixers23 » Sun Jun 5, 2016 4:29 pm

Easymoney wrote:
sixers23 wrote:
Easymoney wrote:

Are you regurgitating a canned line you got from a so-called journalist or did you actually roll up your sleeves to properly evaluate Okafor as a prospect?

It has already been posted numerous times in this forum that Okafor's DTRG improved during the second half of the season and actually paced well when compared with KAT's DRTG. Brett Brown seems to think Okafor can become a better 2-way player, he said so on 97.5 a few days ago during an interview.

Jah is also not Allen Iverson or Carmello Anthony and that comparison is lazy at best, irresponsible at worst. We're talking about a kid who could be spending his off season partying and being a socialite, yet instead chose to take college classes at Duke and work on his game. This kid is serious about becoming a great big man in this league and it would be downright foolish to let him go after a solid rookie campaign when judged in context. According to Brett Brown, Okafor is a very coachable player.

No rookie would've been a world beater playing on our team this year. If KAT was on the Sixers, he wouldn't have been ROY. If Okafor switched places with him, he would've won rookie of the year. Do you guys really think that it's not an advantage to play with a top 20 PG in Rubio all year (Okafor played with a Dleague PG until he got a backup NBA guard in ISH Smith for the second half), have another 20 ppg player on your team drawing attention (who was our 2nd scorer?), and be mentored by a legit all-time great in KG?

How would KAT done the year playing next to arguably the worst supporting cast in NBA History? Would he have been as efficient offensively if he had Okafor's usage rate during the first half? How would he have handled the constant double teams? Would his dleague point guard have gotten him the ball in his spots to maximize his offensive efficiency? The answer to all of these questions is a resounding NO. Hell, I am willing to bet his defensive numbers would take a hit, just like Noel's did. With our horrid perimeter defense this year, being our rim protector would've been comparable to playing Tetris on the hardest difficulty.

If KAT played on our team last year, some of you guys would be calling to trade him for draft picks to build around Simmons/Embiid and I would still be that guy saying that we should give him another chance to play with a real team. I would be defending him on this board against the ROY Okafor and saying we should use context and ignore the journalist nonsense being spewed about him never being able to improve.

sixers23 wrote:lmao ive watched him plays for years man sorry but im not even gonna bother reading your post i know what im talking about and youre not gonna change my mind bc you have some blinded love for him


You know what you read from other people. ;)

To be fair, I would have the same "blind love" for KAT when trying to convince you it would be foolish to trade him this year.

What do you have to say about Okafor's improved drtg during the second half of this season. Gonna ignore that, my friend?


yep youre right man ive never even seen him play. hes the point guard right?
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Post#609 » by ET Da Gawd » Sun Jun 5, 2016 4:33 pm

KAT and zinger woulda been trashhhhh here with our roster...Jahlil literally cooked off double teams all season man


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Post#610 » by Easymoney » Sun Jun 5, 2016 4:43 pm

ET Da Gawd wrote:KAT and zinger woulda been trashhhhh here with our roster...Jahlil literally cooked off double teams all season man


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I think Zinger would've definitely been trash. Guy shot 43% playing with Melo and other NBA players. On the Sixers he'd shoot 40% as a big.

KAT wouldn't have been trash. He probably would've been would've close to what Okafor was this year, just with better rebounding.
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Post#611 » by mksp » Sun Jun 5, 2016 8:04 pm

Can I stop worrying about this rumor yet?
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Post#612 » by bwgood77 » Sun Jun 5, 2016 8:17 pm

mksp wrote:Can I stop worrying about this rumor yet?


Yes, trade just got executed.







Kidding of course. I think now I hope the Suns trade the 4th pick (if Bender is gone) for Okafor or even the 4th and Knight for him, though I don't know if you guys would want to do that.
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Post#613 » by ankle420breaker » Sun Jun 5, 2016 8:19 pm

We didn't feature Jahlil enough. He would get into these ridiculous grooves and then we'd go away from him. He was literally getting double teamed in his first NBA game against Boston and they threw every defender they had at him. Jah still went for 26.

I truly feel he can be a perennial top 10 scorer in this league.

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Post#614 » by mksp » Sun Jun 5, 2016 9:10 pm

ankle420breaker wrote:We didn't feature Jahlil enough. He would get into these ridiculous grooves and then we'd go away from him. He was literally getting double teamed in his first NBA game against Boston and they threw every defender they had at him. Jah still went for 26.

I truly feel he can be a perennial top 10 scorer in this league.

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He would get into ridiculous grooves in the 1st Quarter and then would get tired. It wasn't opportunities, he wasn't as assertive later in games.

Remember how many times we were like "This is the game Jah goes for 30.....", only to watch him huff and puff up and down the court and not get as good position for the 2nd - 4th quarters.
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Post#615 » by spikeslovechild » Sun Jun 5, 2016 9:19 pm

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ankle420breaker wrote:We didn't feature Jahlil enough. He would get into these ridiculous grooves and then we'd go away from him. He was literally getting double teamed in his first NBA game against Boston and they threw every defender they had at him. Jah still went for 26.

I truly feel he can be a perennial top 10 scorer in this league.

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He would get into ridiculous grooves in the 1st Quarter and then would get tired. It wasn't opportunities, he wasn't as assertive later in games.

Remember how many times we were like "This is the game Jah goes for 30.....", only to watch him huff and puff up and down the court and not get as good position for the 2nd - 4th quarters.


Agreed.

He needs to work on his conditioning.
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Post#616 » by Ericb5 » Sun Jun 5, 2016 10:42 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
mksp wrote:Can I stop worrying about this rumor yet?


Yes, trade just got executed.







Kidding of course. I think now I hope the Suns trade the 4th pick (if Bender is gone) for Okafor or even the 4th and Knight for him, though I don't know if you guys would want to do that.


My preference is to keep Okafor and trade Noel, but if we DO trade him then 4 and Knight is the winner for me.


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Post#617 » by Agnostifarian » Sun Jun 5, 2016 10:46 pm

The Jeff Teague thing must be a hoax.
“This may be one of the best jobs in basketball right now,” Colangelo said at a press conference introducing him as the new GM of the 76ers after Sam Hinkie resigned.
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Post#618 » by Ericb5 » Sun Jun 5, 2016 10:47 pm

mksp wrote:
ankle420breaker wrote:We didn't feature Jahlil enough. He would get into these ridiculous grooves and then we'd go away from him. He was literally getting double teamed in his first NBA game against Boston and they threw every defender they had at him. Jah still went for 26.

I truly feel he can be a perennial top 10 scorer in this league.

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He would get into ridiculous grooves in the 1st Quarter and then would get tired. It wasn't opportunities, he wasn't as assertive later in games.

Remember how many times we were like "This is the game Jah goes for 30.....", only to watch him huff and puff up and down the court and not get as good position for the 2nd - 4th quarters.


This is an important part of the Okafor story, and is one that fans of other teams don't often know.

Just looking at his numbers doesn't give justice to his offensive skills. He was often truly dominant, and then pooped out physically.

He also would have the defense dig in to stop him specifically, and no one else on the floor could make them pay for it.

Better teammates and better fitness are two very obtainable things for him, and those two things alone will really open up his production.



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Post#619 » by PhillyRocks1 » Sun Jun 5, 2016 10:59 pm

Agnostifarian wrote:The Jeff Teague thing must be a hoax.


BC was just teasing the Hinkie-ites.
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Post#620 » by sixers hoops » Sun Jun 5, 2016 11:06 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
mksp wrote:Can I stop worrying about this rumor yet?


Yes, trade just got executed.







Kidding of course. I think now I hope the Suns trade the 4th pick (if Bender is gone) for Okafor or even the 4th and Knight for him, though I don't know if you guys would want to do that.


I would do 4th and Knight.

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