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Post#621 » by LongLiveHinkie » Fri May 14, 2010 10:12 pm

Doug Collins the frontrunner for the job per Dei Lynam.
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Post#622 » by bdownbear » Fri May 14, 2010 10:12 pm

It looks like Collins.....Not angry or excited.
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Post#623 » by LongLiveHinkie » Fri May 14, 2010 10:16 pm

Lame and boring. The norm for Stiff.
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Post#624 » by Mojo7 » Fri May 14, 2010 10:43 pm

Westbrook36 wrote:Lame and boring. The norm for Stiff.


I could tolerate Collins with the idea that he will be grooming McKie/Snow on staff as the heir apparent
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Post#625 » by LongLiveHinkie » Fri May 14, 2010 10:48 pm

It's a safe hire. He should be taking a gamble on an unproven coach because this team isn't winning anything anyway. Stiff is going to play it safe to keep his job like the loser that he is.
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Post#626 » by Foshan » Fri May 14, 2010 10:57 pm

*sigh*

Well one can only hope that after hiring another 1 yr disaster Snider will fire Stef.
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Post#627 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Fri May 14, 2010 10:59 pm

I just don't want Woodson here.
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Post#628 » by Tension » Fri May 14, 2010 11:42 pm

bdownbear wrote:It looks like Collins.....Not angry or excited.


same here, but at least with Collins, you know you aren't getting a complete idiot of a coach. Dude knows his bball. I can't see him being that championship calibur coach, but at the same time, he was never given that good of a team besides his days in Chicago.
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Post#629 » by pointguard86 » Sat May 15, 2010 12:03 am

Sammy better set his alarm two hours earlier. Doug's not gonna put up with him coming in late for practices. Andre must have a thick skin because Doug would bark at him whenever he drives to the basket with nowhere to go. Also, Thad should start practicing his dribbles now :)
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Post#630 » by Reddevil42 » Sat May 15, 2010 12:03 am

collins = 32-50 next season with what we got right now...im not excited about this draft at all with the 6th pick..unless we go up to at least #2...or trade the pick with someone somewhere...even still..not looking foward to next season with collins...i as most here said jordan was gonna suck badly and we were right... :(
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Post#631 » by 76STholder » Sat May 15, 2010 12:03 am

Mojo7 wrote:
Westbrook36 wrote:Lame and boring. The norm for Stiff.


I could tolerate Collins with the idea that he will be grooming McKie/Snow on staff as the heir apparent


You hit the nail on the head, IMO. I do not believe (and I don't think the 76ers do either) that he will be the long term solution. But, we need stability. Desperately. Doug is respected in the game and in the history of the 76ers. He knows basketball. If, and only if, he brings in a good group of assistants to groom to be head coach when he "retires", I think this is a great choice. If that is not the case, it is a very poor choice. We need to see the future longterm and this can get us going that direction. If Snow comes in as an assistant, I believe we can see the handwriting on the wall.
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Post#632 » by pointguard86 » Sat May 15, 2010 12:06 am

Doug has a clue and EJ doesn't, that's the main difference. We will see improvements IF Doug's the coach, heck we might even sneak up on other teams and make to the playoffs as a 8th seed.
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Post#633 » by HartfordWhalers » Sat May 15, 2010 12:10 am

So lets say that Stefanski isn't fired when originally it looked 50-50 he would be. And he hires a coach (Collins), tweaks the roster and the team improves, cause that is the obvious direction to go after last season. You really think the franchise resigns Stefanski next season, even after a 40 win season? I don't think 45 does it either.

Long term plan? Who would even be here hiring that assistant?

Its a short term stick a finger in the dike move, nothing more.
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Post#634 » by pointguard86 » Sat May 15, 2010 12:14 am

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Yes, it's a short term plan if Doug becomes the coach. Remember Ed was given his last chance to turn this team around. If Doug comes in, acquires a player and makes an impact, most likely Stefanski will be re-signed. Since the owners are clueless about their team they would just look at the end result and compare it with the previous season.
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Post#635 » by Mojo7 » Sat May 15, 2010 1:52 am

76STholder wrote:
Mojo7 wrote:
Westbrook36 wrote:Lame and boring. The norm for Stiff.


I could tolerate Collins with the idea that he will be grooming McKie/Snow on staff as the heir apparent


You hit the nail on the head, IMO. I do not believe (and I don't think the 76ers do either) that he will be the long term solution. But, we need stability. Desperately. Doug is respected in the game and in the history of the 76ers. He knows basketball. If, and only if, he brings in a good group of assistants to groom to be head coach when he "retires", I think this is a great choice. If that is not the case, it is a very poor choice. We need to see the future longterm and this can get us going that direction. If Snow comes in as an assistant, I believe we can see the handwriting on the wall.


Exactly. Collins isn't a bad coach. He is a proven teacher and taskmaster, 2 very important qualities the team needs right away. But he's a Point A to Point B guy. He's not a guy who will get you to C. But this team isn't ready to make the jump yet anyway. The foundation is still being built. So he can develop them so that the next coach can finish the job. Of course, I'd prefer to find a guy who can build them from A to B to C.
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Post#636 » by 76STholder » Sat May 15, 2010 3:08 am

I could tolerate Collins with the idea that he will be grooming McKie/Snow on staff as the heir apparent[/quote]

You hit the nail on the head, IMO. I do not believe (and I don't think the 76ers do either) that he will be the long term solution. But, we need stability. Desperately. Doug is respected in the game and in the history of the 76ers. He knows basketball. If, and only if, he brings in a good group of assistants to groom to be head coach when he "retires", I think this is a great choice. If that is not the case, it is a very poor choice. We need to see the future longterm and this can get us going that direction. If Snow comes in as an assistant, I believe we can see the handwriting on the wall.[/quote]

Exactly. Collins isn't a bad coach. He is a proven teacher and taskmaster, 2 very important qualities the team needs right away. But he's a Point A to Point B guy. He's not a guy who will get you to C. But this team isn't ready to make the jump yet anyway. The foundation is still being built. So he can develop them so that the next coach can finish the job. Of course, I'd prefer to find a guy who can build them from A to B to C.[/quote]

Personally, I agree 100% I would rather go A to C directly. But I think after EJ's fiasco last year, that is not going to happen. As others mentioned, Ed S is in job preservation mode and I do not see him taking ANY chances with his hire. I would rather see Collins be hired as GM but not this year!
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Post#637 » by corwin » Sat May 15, 2010 3:10 am

I'm liking the hire if it's true. Collins' teams improve the first year & after the season that EFJ gave us I could stand to see a better team. He's a disciplinarian & task master but more importantly, the young players should develop under his leadership. This year was truly wasted. We still don't know whether Thad is a starting 3 or if Speights can play enough defense to stay on the court. I'd have to say that the only issues answered for me are that Lou Williams plays too little defense to start, that Jrue looks like a starting PG, & that Iguodala can't shoot & be a scoring option at SG. Actually, does anyone know what his take is on Iguodala? That might signal the direction the team is taking on personnel.
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Post#638 » by The Guilty Party » Sat May 15, 2010 3:34 am

This team went 27-55 with Eddie Jordan as the head coach, Jrue Holiday riding the pine for almost half of the year, and Thaddeus Young missing the final month of the season.

Can this team improve to a .500 club with Collins on the sidelines, Holiday running the point from the get-go, and the addition of someone like Turner, Favors, or Cousins?? I actually don't think that is out of the question. That's not the goal but this team is NOT going to go from what it is to being a contender in one season.
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Post#639 » by LongLiveHinkie » Sat May 15, 2010 3:40 am

If you had your choice right now. Would you rather have a lottery pick next season or be a borderline playoff team?

I think everyone here would choose lotto. Imagine if we get a top 3 pick this year and did again next year. It would go such a long way in turning this team around.
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Post#640 » by The Guilty Party » Sat May 15, 2010 3:50 am

It would and that could happen given if injuries occur. What won't happen is we won't see the Sixers strip themselves down of all salary and forfeit the upcoming season as the Nets did this past year.

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