Fantasy trade thread: new trade threads merged to here

KrazySixersD · Post #621 » by **KrazySixersD** » Thu May 19, 2011 1:46 pm

id do that deal possibly if it was casspi instead of garcia

Iverson323 · Post #622 » by **Iverson323** » Fri May 20, 2011 3:34 am

I think Sixers should:

Trade:
Iguodala
50th pick

for

Cleveland:
4th Pick
32nd Pick

Draft Byiombo with the 4th pick, draft Chris Singleton with the 16th and draft Jeremy Tyler with the 32nd. I would take Byiombo over Kanter because Kanter is not the type of center we need. We need somebody that is athletic that can rebound and block shots. I think Kanter has skills of a power forward more than a center and is the same type of player as Brand. Singleton can replace Iguodala defensively and since his offense is not close to Iguodala yet, hopefully Turner will take on a more offensive role this year. Tyler could be a good risk pick in the second round and if he lives up to his potential, the Sixers would have a good future frontcourt of Byiombo and Tyler.

Byiombo/Hawes/Speights/Tyler
Brand/Young/Brackins
Singleton/Nocioni
Turner/Meeks
Holiday/Williams

Tension · Post #623 » by **Tension** » Fri May 20, 2011 3:42 am

There's still no way i'd want my starting center to be 6'9 though regardless of his wingspan and it'd be a reach with the #4. Kanter's only 1" taller but at least he can boast an offensive post game a good IQ. It's hard to find center prospects straight out of the draft that can score and at the age of 18.

BringBackKorver · Post #624 » by **BringBackKorver** » Fri May 20, 2011 3:44 am

Tension wrote:There's still no way i'd want my starting center to be 6'9 though regardless of his wingspan

Dwight Howard was measured 6'9 when he came out.

Post #625 » by **Foshan** » Fri May 20, 2011 3:48 am

Yeah I'm really torn on the three bigs available. I'm leaning toward Kanter > Jonas > Bismack... I'm just pray'n we move up and Dileo's done his homework and gets the right one.

Tension · Post #626 » by **Tension** » Fri May 20, 2011 3:49 am

true and he can still grow assuming he's not 22 or whatever the speculation is. I still wouldn't go as far as picking him within the top 5 though, just too much of a project to make that risk.

SJSF · Post #627 » by **SJSF** » Fri May 20, 2011 4:41 am

Tension wrote:There's still no way i'd want my starting center to be 6'9 though regardless of his wingspan and it'd be a reach with the #4. Kanter's only 1" taller but at least he can boast an offensive post game a good IQ. It's hard to find center prospects straight out of the draft that can score and at the age of 18.

Its not so much wingspan as it is jumping ability or quickness off the floor. Charles Barkley at 6'4 3/4 was the best short PF ever. He had long arms. BUt he was strong and quick and new how to use his body. Dennis Rodman was another guy that wasn't that big but was a great defender and rebounder. When looking at players, i only look at one thing. Can he get the job done.

sixerswillrule · Post #628 » by **sixerswillrule** » Fri May 20, 2011 4:54 am

Philly
Iguodala, Speights, Brackins
for
#7 (Biyombo), Webster, Pekovic

Sacramento
#7 (Biyombo), Casspi
for
Wes Johnson, Flynn, Brackins

Minnesota
Wes Johnson, Webster, Pekovic, Flynn
for
Iguodala, Casspi, Speights

Draft Jimmer at #16.
Lou Williams to the Bulls for Watson, Bogans, and #28(Justin Harper)
Let Hawes go and re-sign Young for 5 years, 35 million.

Holiday / Jimmer / Watson
Turner / Meeks / Bogans
Webster / Young / Turner
Brand / Young / Harper
Pekovic / Biyombo / Brand

With Jimmer, Webster, Meeks, and Harper, we'll always have 1 or 2 shooters on the floor. I could see Young doing well at SF again playing alongside Harper at PF. Pekovic and Biyombo could make for a nice combo at center with Pekovic's size and solid offense and Biyombo's defense and athleticism. This is a group that Holiday and Turner could really thrive playing with. When Brand's contract expires we'll have a nice young core and the cap space to continue to add to it. I think it looks good.

Post #629 » by **Foshan** » Fri May 20, 2011 6:24 am

I really think Iggy for Casspi/7 makes the most sense (and simpler)

Jrue/LWill
Turner/Meeks
Casspi*/Young
Brand/Young
Hawes/#7/Brand

Casspi starts like Meeks did this year as the floor stretching presence, but probably only gets 20mpg. LWill/Meeks/Young is a high scoring bench now with a defensive presence (#7 ) to hold down the paint.

Ideally #7 replaces Hawes in the line up by all-star.

At 17 we take Nogueira, and stash him overseas. Or maybe take Faried and trade Speights for a 18-25 pick to take Nogueira.

Point-God · Post #630 » by **Point-God** » Fri May 20, 2011 7:55 am

Casspi wasn't good enough to start for the Kings. We really have to do better than trading a Team USA/All NBA defensive 1st team member for a guy that couldn't start for one of the worst teams in the NBA and a #7 pick in a weak draft. Casspi has very little trade value right now. The #7 pick this year is a non lottery pick IMO.

corwin · Post #631 » by **corwin** » Fri May 20, 2011 9:52 am

There are always rumors but on the Philly.com, one of the posters identified 4 potential trades that his contact is talking about:
1. Iguodala for Monta Ellis
2. Iguodala for Nene
3. Iguodala for Kevin Martin
4. Some sort of trade for OJ Mayo.

Pretty much second contract guys for other second contract guys.

Point-God · Post #632 » by **Point-God** » Fri May 20, 2011 10:11 am

corwin wrote:There are always rumors but on the Philly.com, one of the posters identified 4 potential trades that his contact is talking about:
1. Iguodala for Monta Ellis
2. Iguodala for Nene
3. Iguodala for Kevin Martin
4. Some sort of trade for OJ Mayo.

Pretty much second contract guys for other second contract guys.

I'm sure the highlighted two will not happen. Denver has a bunch of wing players already and no center outside of Nene. Mayo doesn't offer much more than Jodie Meeks and Lou Williams who are already on the roster and aren't due for contract negotiation like Mayo.

corwin · Post #633 » by **corwin** » Fri May 20, 2011 10:55 am

I agree that #2 & #4 won't happen. #1 & #3 are just a lazy man's trades. Sounds like Ed's work.

JrueMatic11 · Post #634 » by **JrueMatic11** » Fri May 20, 2011 2:24 pm

He's a bit undersized, but I really like Kenneth Faried out of Morehead State. Can really rebound and play D. Only problem is he is similar in size to Thad, and is too small to play Center. At our spot, we really won't get a quality Center, so a big PF is best available.

sixerswillrule · Post #635 » by **sixerswillrule** » Fri May 20, 2011 3:08 pm

Foshan wrote:I really think Iggy for Casspi/7 makes the most sense (and simpler)

Jrue/LWill
Turner/Meeks
Casspi*/Young
Brand/Young
Hawes/#7/Brand

Casspi starts like Meeks did this year as the floor stretching presence, but probably only gets 20mpg. LWill/Meeks/Young is a high scoring bench now with a defensive presence (#7 ) to hold down the paint.

Ideally #7 replaces Hawes in the line up by all-star.

At 17 we take Nogueira, and stash him overseas. Or maybe take Faried and trade Speights for a 18-25 pick to take Nogueira.

I like my lineup better. 8-)

BringBackKorver · Post #636 » by **BringBackKorver** » Fri May 20, 2011 5:26 pm

I'm on the Motiejunas bandwagon. Hopefully one of the euros can drop to us. Otherwise if we end up trading Iguodala and Hamilton is there, I'd imagine he is the guy.

Kobblehead · Post #637 » by **Kobblehead** » Fri May 20, 2011 9:33 pm

I keep hearing people talk about Montiejunas lack of desire and inability to rebound.

Mik317 · Post #638 » by **Mik317** » Fri May 20, 2011 9:43 pm

Kobblehead wrote:I keep hearing people talk about Montiejunas lack of desire and inability to rebound.

That means he'll fit right in.

lol.

But seriously, I almost want us to swing for the fences and say **** the safe pick...we might be in a position in which it won't hurt us if we strike out.

Post #639 » by **Foshan** » Sat May 21, 2011 2:57 am

^ lol

I think they are virtually the same.

Both Pek and Hawes are bad defenders, Pek better low post game, Hawes a better passer/shooter. (same $)

Both Casspi and Webster have good outside shooting and average D (Casspi less $)

Both LWill and Jimmer are undersized combo guards who can score, I think LWill will be better, Jimmer cheaper. i think your giving LWill away a little to easily.

Don't know much about Harper, sounds similar to Brackins?

I only like my deal better because Pek and Webster have like 3yrs left at 4/5M type deals. Thats a lot to tie up in role'ish players (imo), and I don't think any of them are long term solutions/fits. I think Casspi has another year on his rookie deal so we can evaluate him before extending, and hawes is a QO then he's off the books.

I could stomach either *shrug*

freshie2 · Post #640 » by **freshie2** » Sat May 21, 2011 3:19 am

Agree on a calculated risk...if they interview Tyler, and he comes across as only immature but moldable (with talent), then I'm OK with that gamble if he's the best option. I also am starting to feel a bit better about who they will get @ 16. Tyler still needs to show a ton, but Vucevic measuring that long makes him a bit more intrigueing. I was hoping originally that he would be obtainable in the early 2nd round and they could trade up, but he may become a serious mid-late first consideration. The kid from Texas measuring longer than expected doesn't hurt either (although he's gone well before 16 I believe). If Moti is the selection @ 16, again I'm fine with the length/talent package.