Sam Hinkie steps down per Marc Stein

[76ers]

LOL.

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Honestly I am surprised it is that close, lol.

Shoot me, seriously, effing Bryan Colangelo, why not someone from the Spurs or GSW??

It really just speaks volumes about the ownership and Uncle Jerry. What, like an hour after Hinkie was gone he was already replaced?

[Skates]

LOL.

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Honestly I am surprised it is that close, lol.

Shoot me, seriously, effing Bryan Colangelo, why not someone from the Spurs or GSW??

It really just speaks volumes about the ownership and Uncle Jerry. What, like an hour after Hinkie was gone he was already replaced?

Let's be honest,Hinkie was replaced the moment Uncle Jerry walked in the door. Okay Jerry, now deliver Durant to our doorstep? No, didn't think so.

[HankTheTank]

I'm just amazed by how many people in the media, and on this board, miss the mark. The Hinkie haters point to his W/L record ad nauseum. The Hinkie process is not so different from the method Theo Epstein employed in Chicago.

When Epstein took over the Cubs, he said the team was going to be awful for at least 2 years at his first press conference. But, he would turn over every rock to acquire young talent and build a bright future, and bring sustainable success. He jettisoned veterens in trades and acquired prospects like Russel. Their high draft position enabled them to draft future stars like Kris Bryant. He spent wisely on international talent like Soler, and when the foundation was laid he brought in free agents like Lester and this year Heyward.

Today they're the best positioned franchise in MlB for sustained success. If you polled MLB execs on who the best GM in baseball is, I'd bet he'd get 75% of the vote. Imagine if the Cubs ownership pulled the plug after 2 years because they were so tired of being awful, right before the team was about to turn the corner. And, what if they hired, say, Ed Wade to replace him, a dinosuar with no foresight, who'd executed horrible trades like the Schilling deal, had mediocre drafts, who was run out on a rail from his last job, and would inevitably bring back the same tired old way of running a baseball team?

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LOL.

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Honestly I am surprised it is that close, lol.

Shoot me, seriously, effing Bryan Colangelo, why not someone from the Spurs or GSW??

Be careful what you wish for...don't want to end up with someone like Lance Blanks, do you?

[marcush]

I'm still living in hope that they take Ferry over the Bry man. I know that I'm just delaying the inevitable but c'mon, look at where Atlantas roster was at when he left compared to Toronto's. Easy choice surely.

[Worm122]

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[phiphan]

Still mourning. I'm actually surprised how much this hurts.

[phiphan]

The Colangelo "basketball people" mandate has a distinct "jocks vs. nerds" vibe.

[spikeslovechild]

Here's what I never understood.

Jerry was supposed to be the baketball guy to help him with free agents and trades. Why was it necessary to bring in an additional voice?

Like I said this was never about Hinkie. Jerry saw a franchise in distress he could seize control of and took it so he could find his son a job. Lets face it with strong ownership this doesnt happen.

[mksp]

Here's what I never understood.

Jerry was supposed to be the baketball guy to help him with free agents and trades. Why was it necessary to bring in an additional voice?

Like I said this was never about Hinkie. Jerry saw a franchise in distress he could seize control of and took it so he could find his son a job. Lets face it with strong ownership this doesnt happen.

It was a coup.

And I'll say it ad nauseam because it's true, but Josh Harris is a fragile, rich, old white guy, who really only cares what other old, rich, white guys think. Colangelo got his ear and it was all over.

[NYSixersFan]

What's amazing to me is this idea that Hinkie did something great....any GM could have done what Hinkie did

Ron Hextall inherited a similar situation to Hinkie....you see the difference

[phiphan]

What's amazing to me is this idea that Hinkie did something great....any GM could have done what Hinkie did

Very few GMs could have gotten our pick back from the Magic. Very few GMs could have fleeced Vlade like that. And I'm not sure there's any GM with the giant balls it took to trade the (flawed) rookie of the year for a future pick.

It sucks that Hinkie won't be here to stuff your mouth full of crow.

[Mik317]

Its not even about Hinkie for me.

Its about the return to "basketball guys". This is the exact **** that ruined the franchise for years. It is what Larry Brown has been asking for years. It is Doug Collins 2.0. Hinkie made hella mistakes...and one could argue yeah he should have been fired....but this all reeks of us returning to the stone age instead of continuing to use new age team building ideas. I can't wait for us to return to the "grind it out long twos styles of old" yaaaaaaay.

again while I am whining super hard, I am willing to see what happens first but I do not look forward to the future. It is a lot harder to fantasize now when you are expecting the trade picks for short term game stuff to start asap.

[PhilasFinest]

I'm still living in hope that they take Ferry over the Bry man. I know that I'm just delaying the inevitable but c'mon, look at where Atlantas roster was at when he left compared to Toronto's. Easy choice surely.

BC/Raptors-Traded for Lowry, drafted DeRozan.Drafted Valanciunas. Essentially set up the all star back-court and the core of the roster leading the Raptors to the playoffs.

Hawks/Ferry- Traded for Korver, Signed Milsap, Drafted Schroder. Bolstered the front court with an already in place Horford. System fits for Bud.


Im not so sure Ferry is lightyears ahead of BC. And thats not taking into account the whole "racial" issue Ferry had being a distraction.

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

I am more than willing to wait andcsee what happens. This is my team no matter what crap they pull. Hinkie has given us a solid foundation to build on. It's a shame he didn't get to see it all the way through. He handled the grunt masonry work, and Jerry and sons carpentry services will either build a mansion, an average home, or a chicken shack on top of it. Jerry and Bryan use bronze aged beliefs and that's fine by me. I personally think analytics are a bit overused these days. That still doesn't exonerate or remedy the fact that ownership and that bastard Colon Jello did Hinkie dirty. They are clearly out to line their pockets, they let Hinkie take the blame for the process and then kicked him to the curb. That's what doesn't sit well with me. It was just a slimy dirty snake like move to pull on a person, and I hope they drown and asphyxiate in a pool full of money. Dirty man, not cool, and sickening considering it came from such a position of supposed professionalism.

[truth18]

What's amazing to me is this idea that Hinkie did something great....any GM could have done what Hinkie did

Ron Hextall inherited a similar situation to Hinkie....you see the difference

For someone who hates Hinkie so much, I would think you would be focusing on what matters now. Hinkie is gone, why are you still talking about him endlessly?

Focus on the reign of mediocrity that will be the Colangelo era.

[kriss73]

I'm not a great fan of Jeff Van Gundy, but I subscribe every single word (via libertyballers) and I think that he centered most part of the issue:

You cannot judge Sam Hinkie's three-year tenure today. You have to wait and see if [Joel Embiid] develops. If Embiid doesn't ever play, there's something. If Embiid goes on to be a perennial All-Star, then you have to give Sam Hinkie a lot of credit. Same with [Jahlil] Okafor, [Dario Saric] who may or may not be coming over this year.

This isn't just a Sam Hinkie plan, you don't get to do whatever you want as a general manager. This is a collaborative plan, that was cosigned by whoever in ownership has that ability to do that. I hate when people it's Sam Hinkie coming up with this; yeah he had some of these ideas, but they had to be approved.

The record is awful, historically bad. But there are things that were done very well, and a lot remains to be seen on his plan. I think we have to wait for judgment. I think if he had played the media game better and more, I think that will serve him going forward in his next job.

Play the media game better

[kriss73]

What's amazing to me is this idea that Hinkie did something great....any GM could have done what Hinkie did

Ron Hextall inherited a similar situation to Hinkie....you see the difference

For someone who hates Hinkie so much, I would think you would be focusing on what matters now. Hinkie is gone, why are you still talking about him endlessly?

Focus on the reign of mediocrity that will be the Colangelo era.

Love and Hate are the two faces of the same coin: nothing worse of a betrayed lover apart a rejected lover

[76ciology]

Part of me wants to believe that it's part of the plan. Hinkie would have a very tough time executing phase 2 when he has to deal with the agents and other teams, both are rooting for him to fail.

Hinkie or without Hinkie, we aren't looking to tank again next season. And let's face it, BC and JC duo might do a better job for phase 2 going forward.

It just seem so planned out with how Hinkie has written his resignation letter, the zach lowe interview and how quick the BC hiring..just the timing of phase 2 in general and how this sudden exit somehow not giving THAT ownership to hinkie since he didn't see it thru (brett brown reference).

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At least 76ers have said Brett Brown's job isn't in question.