Jeff Teague for Nerlens Noel discussed, not imminent

[Agnostifarian]

Can I stop worrying about this rumor yet?

Yes, trade just got executed.







Kidding of course. I think now I hope the Suns trade the 4th pick (if Bender is gone) for Okafor or even the 4th and Knight for him, though I don't know if you guys would want to do that.

I would do 4th and Knight.

Me too.

[Chamberlainship]

Discerning public opinion from clips of fans reacting at a party, message board posts, and philly.com polls may leave some room for bias. But the owner who hired him demoted him. That speaks for itself.

the Sixers have dropped in our rankings after Hinkie's departure, primarily because we dropped their management score from No. 15 to No. 20.

http://espn.go.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/15702206/2016-nba-future-power-rankings-kevin-pelton-chad-ford#4

So, we have a whole lot of public opinion and analysts saying the Sixers ownership **** up. But maybe everyone is just biased, and the owners didn't? Feels like a lot of sand to use to cover one's head, and yet I'm still not sure its enough.

http://www.sheridanhoops.com/2015/12/09/hubbard-colangelo-brings-common-sense-to-76ers/

. Since becoming general manager in 2013, Sam Hinkie’s approach of rejecting or ignoring veterans while accumulating young players and future draft picks has been well-documented and almost universally panned. Hinkie’s work has produced a roster with only one player born before 1990 and a meager 38 victories in the last 186 games.

Here's a couple more you may want to review:

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/tailgaters/Sad-Sam-Hinkie-supporters-really-are-a-cult.html

http://www.cultwatch.com/how-to-help-friends-family.html

[HartfordWhalers]

Discerning public opinion from clips of fans reacting at a party, message board posts, and philly.com polls may leave some room for bias. But the owner who hired him demoted him. That speaks for itself.

the Sixers have dropped in our rankings after Hinkie's departure, primarily because we dropped their management score from No. 15 to No. 20.

http://espn.go.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/15702206/2016-nba-future-power-rankings-kevin-pelton-chad-ford#4

So, we have a whole lot of public opinion and analysts saying the Sixers ownership **** up. But maybe everyone is just biased, and the owners didn't? Feels like a lot of sand to use to cover one's head, and yet I'm still not sure its enough.

http://www.sheridanhoops.com/2015/12/09/hubbard-colangelo-brings-common-sense-to-76ers/

. Since becoming general manager in 2013, Sam Hinkie’s approach of rejecting or ignoring veterans while accumulating young players and future draft picks has been well-documented and almost universally panned. Hinkie’s work has produced a roster with only one player born before 1990 and a meager 38 victories in the last 186 games.

Here's a couple more you may want to review:

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/tailgaters/Sad-Sam-Hinkie-supporters-really-are-a-cult.html

http://www.cultwatch.com/how-to-help-friends-family.html

If you have to go to Sheridan for an expert opinion, its because your position is hopelessly lost in general. Here, its because your position is hopelessly lost in specific.

[Chamberlainship]

http://espn.go.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/15702206/2016-nba-future-power-rankings-kevin-pelton-chad-ford#4

So, we have a whole lot of public opinion and analysts saying the Sixers ownership **** up. But maybe everyone is just biased, and the owners didn't? Feels like a lot of sand to use to cover one's head, and yet I'm still not sure its enough.

http://www.sheridanhoops.com/2015/12/09/hubbard-colangelo-brings-common-sense-to-76ers/

. Since becoming general manager in 2013, Sam Hinkie’s approach of rejecting or ignoring veterans while accumulating young players and future draft picks has been well-documented and almost universally panned. Hinkie’s work has produced a roster with only one player born before 1990 and a meager 38 victories in the last 186 games.

Here's a couple more you may want to review:

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/tailgaters/Sad-Sam-Hinkie-supporters-really-are-a-cult.html

http://www.cultwatch.com/how-to-help-friends-family.html

If you have to go to Sheridan for an expert opinion, its because your position is hopelessly lost in general. Here, its because your position is hopelessly lost in specific.

He's not on the approved NBA analyst list?

[Negrodamus]

If you can't see Hinkie's plan, then you can't see 2-3 years down the road. That's the type of "team building" that got us in trouble before. If building through the draft and removing the garbage from my team is a cult, then pass me the koolaid.

[PhillyRocks1]

http://www.sheridanhoops.com/2015/12/09/hubbard-colangelo-brings-common-sense-to-76ers/




Here's a couple more you may want to review:

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/tailgaters/Sad-Sam-Hinkie-supporters-really-are-a-cult.html

http://www.cultwatch.com/how-to-help-friends-family.html

If you have to go to Sheridan for an expert opinion, its because your position is hopelessly lost in general. Here, its because your position is hopelessly lost in specific.

He's not on the approved NBA analyst list?

No. It's because he's not a Hinkie-ite.

[HartfordWhalers]

He's not on the approved NBA analyst list?

I think thats probably the accurate short description of his career.

Then again, I think you are trying to argue a (losing) point versus actually figuring out what Sheridan's rep is.

I take it back. I know thats what you are doing because you and 1'ed the post above instead of taking a minute to reflect on why Sheridan is kinda all sorts of awful as a 'source' for any insight or news. It is sad.


(And yeah, Hinkie's plan being panned elsewhere doesn't change its popularity in Philly, nor would it make the BC hire less of a travesty)

[ET Da Gawd]

If you can't see Hinkie's plan, then you can't see 2-3 years down the road. That's the type of "team building" that got us in trouble before. If building through the draft and removing the garbage from my team is a cult, then pass me the koolaid.

Well said, outside Bron Miami, you have to build your own team, esp in a city like this where it's not people's 1st-10th choice


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[Chamberlainship]

He's not on the approved NBA analyst list?

I think thats probably the accurate short description of his career.

Then again, I think you are trying to argue a (losing) point versus actually figuring out what Sheridan's rep is.

I take it back. I know thats what you are doing because you and 1'ed the post above instead of taking a minute to reflect on why Sheridan is kinda all sorts of awful as a 'source' for any insight or news. It is sad.

I don't understand this comment. I'm not sure what analysts have good reps in your opinion. Is there a philly.com poll I should look at to establish an analyst's popularity? What makes ESPN insider dude such an authority? Nevermind. It isn't worth the time.

[HartfordWhalers]

I'm not sure what analysts have good reps in your opinion.

If you really cannot differentiate people with opinions, from people with generally respected opinions, that is a problem thats a lot deeper than basketball.

[Unbreakable99]

He's not on the approved NBA analyst list?

I think thats probably the accurate short description of his career.

Then again, I think you are trying to argue a (losing) point versus actually figuring out what Sheridan's rep is.

I take it back. I know thats what you are doing because you and 1'ed the post above instead of taking a minute to reflect on why Sheridan is kinda all sorts of awful as a 'source' for any insight or news. It is sad.

I don't understand this comment. I'm not sure what analysts have good reps in your opinion. Is there a philly.com poll I should look at to establish an analyst's popularity? What makes ESPN insider dude such an authority? Nevermind. It isn't worth the time.

You lost. Give it up man.

[eagereyez]

Yes, trade just got executed.







Kidding of course. I think now I hope the Suns trade the 4th pick (if Bender is gone) for Okafor or even the 4th and Knight for him, though I don't know if you guys would want to do that.

I would do 4th and Knight.

Me too.

I wouldn't. Okafor will improve and is cheaper. Trade Noel instead, even if the best thing you can get back is a pick in the 6-10 range.

BC is actually a very good drafter. He's found some absolute gems later in the draft (Stat, Nash, Marion). It's the one thing I'd trust him to do.

[Easymoney]

We didn't feature Jahlil enough. He would get into these ridiculous grooves and then we'd go away from him. He was literally getting double teamed in his first NBA game against Boston and they threw every defender they had at him. Jah still went for 26.

I truly feel he can be a perennial top 10 scorer in this league.

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He would get into ridiculous grooves in the 1st Quarter and then would get tired. It wasn't opportunities, he wasn't as assertive later in games.

Remember how many times we were like "This is the game Jah goes for 30.....", only to watch him huff and puff up and down the court and not get as good position for the 2nd - 4th quarters.

This is an important part of the Okafor story, and is one that fans of other teams don't often know.

Just looking at his numbers doesn't give justice to his offensive skills. He was often truly dominant, and then pooped out physically.

He also would have the defense dig in to stop him specifically, and no one else on the floor could make them pay for it.

Better teammates and better fitness are two very obtainable things for him, and those two things alone will really open up his production.



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Yup, the kid scored 17 points in a qtr..... during his rookie season. When is the last time a rookie was capable of doing that on offense? This is the type of stuff that can win playoff games when your down and need someone to put the ball in the basket ala Klay Thompson in the OKC series.

Fitness is the key to Jah reaching his ceiling and becoming a true superstar. He has the size and length to be a good rebounder and a decent defender, he just needs to get the stamina. If he had it this year he may have averaged 25 points a game as a rookie.

[Chamberlainship]

I think thats probably the accurate short description of his career.

Then again, I think you are trying to argue a (losing) point versus actually figuring out what Sheridan's rep is.

I take it back. I know thats what you are doing because you and 1'ed the post above instead of taking a minute to reflect on why Sheridan is kinda all sorts of awful as a 'source' for any insight or news. It is sad.

I don't understand this comment. I'm not sure what analysts have good reps in your opinion. Is there a philly.com poll I should look at to establish an analyst's popularity? What makes ESPN insider dude such an authority? Nevermind. It isn't worth the time.

You lost. Give it up man.

In who's opinion?

[Chamberlainship]

I'm not sure what analysts have good reps in your opinion.

If you really cannot differentiate people with opinions, from people with generally respected opinions, that is a problem thats a lot deeper than basketball.

You have 24k posts. You're better than this.

[Kobblehead]

I would do 4th and Knight.

Why Noel, though, man?

[HartfordWhalers]

I'm not sure what analysts have good reps in your opinion.

If you really cannot differentiate people with opinions, from people with generally respected opinions, that is a problem thats a lot deeper than basketball.

You have 24k posts. You're better than this.

If it hurts to hear, I'm sorry. But it should be pretty obvious at this stage in your life that not everyone's opinion holds equal weight. And regardless of its bearing on anything Sixers related, Sheridan's pinion doesn't hold much weight at all.

That you want to ignore this and try to cling to him for support suggests how narrow a ledge your position has put you on.

[sixers hoops]

I would do 4th and Knight.

Why Noel, though, man?

No, I was responding to Okafor for that package.

[Chamberlainship]

If you really cannot differentiate people with opinions, from people with generally respected opinions, that is a problem thats a lot deeper than basketball.

You have 24k posts. You're better than this.

If it hurts to hear, I'm sorry.

You don't have to apologize. Just stop with the "you've got a problem that's a lot deeper than basketball." Seems like that is projecting some insecurity there. We're arguing about how to guage the popularity of a sixer GM who resigned. Let's keep that in perspective.

[HartfordWhalers]

You have 24k posts. You're better than this.

If it hurts to hear, I'm sorry.

You don't have to apologize. Just stop with the "you've got a problem that's a lot deeper than basketball." Seems like that is projecting some insecurity there. We're arguing about how to guage the popularity of a sixer GM who resigned. Let's keep that in perspective.

No, at this point you are defending that Chris Sheridan is a legitimate respected NBA analyst because you want it to be so to suit an agenda. Its a horrible tangential position. Trying to obscure from that is missing the point. You have jumped the train. Which is funny with all the comments about 'cults'.