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Re: Winter is Here: Welcome Dario Saric 

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Re: Winter is Here: Welcome Dario Saric 

Post#622 » by Arsenal » Mon Mar 6, 2017 5:47 pm

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JojoSlimbiid wrote:I'm sort of disappointed in myself for thinking this but it's something I've been thinking of a lot watching Dario. I think he would benefit a lot more by flopping on his drives. He actually reminds me a lot of Gallinari in that they can get the initial space on their first step but the defender closes so quick they can't get a shot up near the rim. In Dario's case he currently passes out of situations like that where as Gallinari flops and gets to the line.

I think I get you, but it's not 'flopping' he needs, just needs to go into the defenders body after he gets space to make sure he gets fouled. Draymond did this a couple times tonight--he saw he might not be able to finish over Richaun (who was on point on D tonight) so he jumped towards him when Richaun was chasing him and forced contact. Dario's length and athleticism are so meh that he's gonna have to make that stuff a constant habit.


Absolutely. Dario should watch film of guys like Harden and Manu all summer long and incorporate some of their flopping <ahem>... contact drawing maneuvers into his game. That along with the 3 point shooting and the guy is a star.
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Re: Winter is Here: Welcome Dario Saric 

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Post#624 » by kriss73 » Wed Jun 28, 2017 7:51 pm

From reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/sixers/comments/6jzt19/dario_%C5%A1ari%C4%87_about_roy_other_stuff_interview_for/

It's worth a read if someone wants to know why people loves Dario and why he would be a player "better than the sum of his skills".
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Re: Winter is Here: Welcome Dario Saric 

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Re: Winter is Here: Welcome Dario Saric 

Post#626 » by shawn_hemp » Thu Jun 29, 2017 3:57 am

Sportfan73 wrote:Simmons/Saric/Embiid is our front court for the next 10 years. We may not have to ever spot start richaun. We can just slide Dario to the 5 and Ben to the 4 and play a run and gun style when Biid rests


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I don't see how putting Dario at 5 over Richaun promotes a "run and gun" style of play

Richaun is way more suited to finish fast breaks than Dario. And considering that Simmons should (in theory) be leading these breaks, I don't think putting Dario on the court really speeds that up.

I love Dario's attitude and commitment to doing the little things during a game, but I think we need to realize his limitations at some point.

If you play him at 5 he would easily be one of the worst defensive centers in the league.

Probably because he's not really a center...
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Post#627 » by 76ciology » Wed Jul 26, 2017 4:36 pm

How good is this guy be if he shoots 40% from 3, something he is capable with specially if we lessen his load with him playing with better talent.
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Post#628 » by ziggy77 » Sun Jul 30, 2017 5:54 pm

76ciology wrote:How good is this guy be if he shoots 40% from 3, something he is capable with specially if we lessen his load with him playing with better talent.


40% from the 3? All-star in the east.
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Re: Winter is Here: Welcome Dario Saric 

Post#629 » by Chris76 » Sun Jul 30, 2017 7:25 pm

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Sportfan73 wrote:Simmons/Saric/Embiid is our front court for the next 10 years. We may not have to ever spot start richaun. We can just slide Dario to the 5 and Ben to the 4 and play a run and gun style when Biid rests


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I don't see how putting Dario at 5 over Richaun promotes a "run and gun" style of play

Richaun is way more suited to finish fast breaks than Dario. And considering that Simmons should (in theory) be leading these breaks, I don't think putting Dario on the court really speeds that up.

I love Dario's attitude and commitment to doing the little things during a game, but I think we need to realize his limitations at some point.

If you play him at 5 he would easily be one of the worst defensive centers in the league.

Probably because he's not really a center...


Dario's defense should improve, he is really good at playmaking.

Bayless
TLC/Stauskus
Dario
Holmes
Okafor

This lineup would be one of the best backups.
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Post#630 » by 76ciology » Mon Jul 31, 2017 4:29 am

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76ciology wrote:How good is this guy be if he shoots 40% from 3, something he is capable with specially if we lessen his load with him playing with better talent.


40% from the 3? All-star in the east.


I was also wondering if he's all-star potential if he can shoot 40% from 3s, which makes a huge difference in his upside IMO.
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Post#631 » by ziggy77 » Mon Jul 31, 2017 8:32 am

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ziggy77 wrote:
76ciology wrote:How good is this guy be if he shoots 40% from 3, something he is capable with specially if we lessen his load with him playing with better talent.


40% from the 3? All-star in the east.


I was also wondering if he's all-star potential if he can shoot 40% from 3s, which makes a huge difference in his upside IMO.


But not on the Sixers. He could never be all star here, to much ball demanding players. If he improves his shot to 40% from the 3 and if he want's to be an all star he needs to go somewhere else.

But we will see, i will be satisfied with 35-36%, 6th man of the year and multiple championships.
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Post#632 » by ankle420breaker » Mon Jul 31, 2017 12:27 pm

Chris76 wrote:
shawn_hemp wrote:
Sportfan73 wrote:Simmons/Saric/Embiid is our front court for the next 10 years. We may not have to ever spot start richaun. We can just slide Dario to the 5 and Ben to the 4 and play a run and gun style when Biid rests


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I don't see how putting Dario at 5 over Richaun promotes a "run and gun" style of play

Richaun is way more suited to finish fast breaks than Dario. And considering that Simmons should (in theory) be leading these breaks, I don't think putting Dario on the court really speeds that up.

I love Dario's attitude and commitment to doing the little things during a game, but I think we need to realize his limitations at some point.

If you play him at 5 he would easily be one of the worst defensive centers in the league.

Probably because he's not really a center...


Dario's defense should improve, he is really good at playmaking.

Bayless
TLC/Stauskus
Dario
Holmes
Okafor

This lineup would be one of the best backups.

I'm on board with having TJ, Saric, and Holmes together on the 2nd unit. 3 high motor guys who will compete every night.

TLC should see some consistent playing time and I'd expect Bayless, Stauskas, and Korkmaz to compete for minutes throughout the season.

Amir's defense should put him ahead of Okafor in the depth chart.

You could argue that our 2nd unit could beat our starting lineup from 2014.



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Post#633 » by Chris76 » Tue Aug 1, 2017 4:42 am

ankle420breaker wrote:
Chris76 wrote:
shawn_hemp wrote:
I don't see how putting Dario at 5 over Richaun promotes a "run and gun" style of play

Richaun is way more suited to finish fast breaks than Dario. And considering that Simmons should (in theory) be leading these breaks, I don't think putting Dario on the court really speeds that up.

I love Dario's attitude and commitment to doing the little things during a game, but I think we need to realize his limitations at some point.

If you play him at 5 he would easily be one of the worst defensive centers in the league.

Probably because he's not really a center...


Dario's defense should improve, he is really good at playmaking.

Bayless
TLC/Stauskus
Dario
Holmes
Okafor

This lineup would be one of the best backups.

I'm on board with having TJ, Saric, and Holmes together on the 2nd unit. 3 high motor guys who will compete every night.

TLC should see some consistent playing time and I'd expect Bayless, Stauskas, and Korkmaz to compete for minutes throughout the season.

Amir's defense should put him ahead of Okafor in the depth chart.

You could argue that our 2nd unit could beat our starting lineup from 2014.



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It will be nice to have players competing for playing time.
I think Saric, Holmes, and Okafor fit better than Saric, Holmes, and Amir. Okafor has the size and weight to bang with bigger centers, and he provides better scoring.
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Re: Winter is Here: Welcome Dario Saric 

Post#634 » by JojoSlimbiid » Tue Aug 8, 2017 10:53 pm

Our boy was player of the game today vs France in the eurobasket friendly.

16 pts
6-11 FG%
2-3 3%
10 boards
4 assist

http://www.fibalivestats.com/u/FFBB/638656/bs.html
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Post#635 » by 76thBearCub » Tue Aug 8, 2017 11:59 pm

Dario seems like the kind of guy who doesn't care where he is, what's going on, he's going 100%. It's a given that he doesn't have that extra athletic gear but I really respect the way he plays. That's a lot of the reason I'm optimistic about him. If he can improve his 3 point shot and team defense he can be an excellent player. I have no doubt he will be busting his ass as much as almost anybody in the league to get there.
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Re: Winter is Here: Welcome Dario Saric 

Post#636 » by Ericb5 » Wed Aug 9, 2017 12:52 am

76ciology wrote:
ziggy77 wrote:
76ciology wrote:How good is this guy be if he shoots 40% from 3, something he is capable with specially if we lessen his load with him playing with better talent.


40% from the 3? All-star in the east.


I was also wondering if he's all-star potential if he can shoot 40% from 3s, which makes a huge difference in his upside IMO.


I DO think that he has the potential to shoot 40% from 3 someday, but I DON'T think that he will be an allstar. He will always be a scrappy defender with a low ceiling on that side of the ball.

On offense, he has a higher ceiling, by it is still very limited by his athleticism. He is a jack of all trades though that could be a 6th man of the year candidate some day.


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Post#637 » by ziggy77 » Wed Aug 9, 2017 7:31 am

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76ciology wrote:
ziggy77 wrote:
40% from the 3? All-star in the east.


I was also wondering if he's all-star potential if he can shoot 40% from 3s, which makes a huge difference in his upside IMO.


I DO think that he has the potential to shoot 40% from 3 someday, but I DON'T think that he will be an allstar. He will always be a scrappy defender with a low ceiling on that side of the ball.

On offense, he has a higher ceiling, by it is still very limited by his athleticism. He is a jack of all trades though that could be a 6th man of the year candidate some day.


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Man...with 40% 3pt and all other skills, he sure is all star in the east, but i don't think he will ever be at that % it's SF, that is elite 3pt shooting, 35%-36% is more likely
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Post#638 » by Simmons25 » Wed Aug 9, 2017 10:23 am

Dario has lost some weight too... looking good. Will help him play more uptempo.

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Post#639 » by Mrcrockpots » Wed Aug 9, 2017 11:02 am

Simmons25 wrote:Dario has lost some weight too... looking good. Will help him play more uptempo.



This is an underrated development. Fingers crossed that Dario can increase his 3pt% and ability to defend on the perimeter. I'm hoping he can defend the SF position a bit more this year, allowing Simmons to get more minutes at the 4 and 5 in some situations.
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Post#640 » by kriss73 » Wed Aug 9, 2017 2:31 pm

I hope Saric could improve his 3pt% because this is a important part of todays' game, but I hope more we aren't try to convert him in a pure 3pts shooter like Ryan Anderson for example.

In that case, it's better to trade him elsewhere, because asking him only to defend the SF position and to shot 3s it's not using him properly and at his best.
You're not helping him so you're not helping the team.

In my opionion Saric has to be free to create for himself and for his teammates and he has to use his gritness to attack the paint.

He could and should be more than a 3&D type of player because he will never be a top 3&D player.
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