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Re: Sixers new HC search thread 

Post#621 » by sixers4real » Sat Sep 26, 2020 4:53 am

As of now, I vote for MDA and blowing this roster. Keep Simmons Embiid, find some other guys. I don’t even care, it can’t be worse. Try once again with Embiid, Simmons and MDA for like 3-4 years. If it does not work, rebuild again.
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Post#622 » by 76ciology » Sat Sep 26, 2020 5:50 am

sixers4real wrote:As of now, I vote for MDA and blowing this roster. Keep Simmons Embiid, find some other guys. I don’t even care, it can’t be worse. Try once again with Embiid, Simmons and MDA for like 3-4 years. If it does not work, rebuild again.


This is the difference between a fans vs a real NBA FOs mindset. The later couldnt just blow up things because they are heavily invested.

The more skin you have in the game, the more cautious you are.
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Post#623 » by sixers4real » Sat Sep 26, 2020 5:53 am

76ciology wrote:
sixers4real wrote:As of now, I vote for MDA and blowing this roster. Keep Simmons Embiid, find some other guys. I don’t even care, it can’t be worse. Try once again with Embiid, Simmons and MDA for like 3-4 years. If it does not work, rebuild again.


This is the difference between a fans vs a real NBA FOs mindset. The later couldnt just blow up things because they are heavily invested.

The more skin you have in the game, the more cautious you are.

Yeah, it is so unfortunate that the mindset of our FO is NOT winning a championship.
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Post#624 » by 76ciology » Sat Sep 26, 2020 5:56 am

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sixers4real wrote:As of now, I vote for MDA and blowing this roster. Keep Simmons Embiid, find some other guys. I don’t even care, it can’t be worse. Try once again with Embiid, Simmons and MDA for like 3-4 years. If it does not work, rebuild again.


This is the difference between a fans vs a real NBA FOs mindset. The later couldnt just blow up things because they are heavily invested.

The more skin you have in the game, the more cautious you are.

Yeah, it is so unfortunate that the mindset of our FO is NOT winning a championship.


This criticism against the FO is just too toxic that is leading to a lot of bias.

Who’s to say that signing MDA means winning the championship when he can’t even win it with teams that are better tailored to his style like the Suns or the Rockets?

That ship of trying to win now and going “F the future“ mode has sailed when we didnt trade Ben for Kawhi.
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Post#625 » by PhillyPhilly » Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:48 am

sixers4real wrote:
76ciology wrote:
sixers4real wrote:As of now, I vote for MDA and blowing this roster. Keep Simmons Embiid, find some other guys. I don’t even care, it can’t be worse. Try once again with Embiid, Simmons and MDA for like 3-4 years. If it does not work, rebuild again.


This is the difference between a fans vs a real NBA FOs mindset. The later couldnt just blow up things because they are heavily invested.

The more skin you have in the game, the more cautious you are.

Yeah, it is so unfortunate that the mindset of our FO is NOT winning a championship.


But the guy you're rooting for (mda) has NOT won a championship himself despite having tons of high class talent to work with including Nash, Kobe, Harden, Paul, Wedtbrook and prime Melo.
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Post#626 » by ankle420breaker » Sat Sep 26, 2020 11:34 am

Like most, if its between the two I'm casting my vote for Pringles over Lue.

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Post#627 » by 51X3RF4N » Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:50 pm

sixers4real wrote:As of now, I vote for MDA and blowing this roster. Keep Simmons Embiid, find some other guys. I don’t even care, it can’t be worse. Try once again with Embiid, Simmons and MDA for like 3-4 years. If it does not work, rebuild again.
It can't be worse? Really? Don't curse us!

It can most certainly be worse.
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Post#628 » by PhillyPhilly » Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:16 pm

ankle420breaker wrote:Like most, if its between the two I'm casting my vote for Pringles over Lue.

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Most where? Twitter is firmly behind Lue actually :D
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Post#629 » by ankle420breaker » Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:44 pm

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ankle420breaker wrote:Like most, if its between the two I'm casting my vote for Pringles over Lue.

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Most where? Twitter is firmly behind Lue actually :D
Like most here on this board (actual sixer fans). Stop trolling everyone who doesn't see the world through your eyes where Ty Lue is a youthful, schematic, proven winner who totally warrants the FU money he's asking for.

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Post#630 » by SixersFanInNY » Sat Sep 26, 2020 2:12 pm

I would vote for Lue but only because I think D'antoni is that bad.

I like coaches who figure out how to maximize the results for the players they have, not coaches that want to force players into some style they impose (even if it were a style I liked, which is not the case here).

I also like coaches who dont push for trades that work only for their style since thats a ticket to multi-year lotteries after their tenure.
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Post#631 » by 51X3RF4N » Sat Sep 26, 2020 6:00 pm

SixersFanInNY wrote:I would vote for Lue but only because I think D'antoni is that bad.

I like coaches who figure out how to maximize the results for the players they have, not coaches that want to force players into some style they impose (even if it were a style I liked, which is not the case here).

I also like coaches who dont push for trades that work only for their style since thats a ticket to multi-year lotteries after their tenure.
Yeah, I mean I'm behind Lue over MDA unless there is a plan to transform the roster into one that can actually compete for a title in 2021. Otherwise, give me 5 years of Lue and minor roster tweaks to see if our "stars" have what it takes to make a Finals run some day.
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Post#632 » by agiaco » Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:49 pm

51X3RF4N wrote:
SixersFanInNY wrote:I would vote for Lue but only because I think D'antoni is that bad.

I like coaches who figure out how to maximize the results for the players they have, not coaches that want to force players into some style they impose (even if it were a style I liked, which is not the case here).

I also like coaches who dont push for trades that work only for their style since thats a ticket to multi-year lotteries after their tenure.
Yeah, I mean I'm behind Lue over MDA unless there is a plan to transform the roster into one that can actually compete for a title in 2021. Otherwise, give me 5 years of Lue and minor roster tweaks to see if our "stars" have what it takes to make a Finals run some day.


With Simmons the Sixers had a legitimate chance of being in the finals this year, so I'm not super worried about the chances. They need to figure out the complementary pieces in order to have a good chance of winning the finals and not just making it.
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Post#633 » by 51X3RF4N » Sat Sep 26, 2020 8:03 pm

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51X3RF4N wrote:
SixersFanInNY wrote:I would vote for Lue but only because I think D'antoni is that bad.

I like coaches who figure out how to maximize the results for the players they have, not coaches that want to force players into some style they impose (even if it were a style I liked, which is not the case here).

I also like coaches who dont push for trades that work only for their style since thats a ticket to multi-year lotteries after their tenure.
Yeah, I mean I'm behind Lue over MDA unless there is a plan to transform the roster into one that can actually compete for a title in 2021. Otherwise, give me 5 years of Lue and minor roster tweaks to see if our "stars" have what it takes to make a Finals run some day.


With Simmons the Sixers had a legitimate chance of being in the finals this year, so I'm not super worried about the chances. They need to figure out the complementary pieces in order to have a good chance of winning the finals and not just making it.
Yeah I don't see it like that. Even with Simmons, I'm not sure this team had a shot. They wouldn't have beaten Miami or Toronto, and probably still would've lost to Boston.

I just think Harris and Richardson were required to be just decent in order for the Sixers to go anywhere, and they were putrid.
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Post#634 » by agiaco » Sat Sep 26, 2020 8:06 pm

51X3RF4N wrote:
agiaco wrote:
51X3RF4N wrote:Yeah, I mean I'm behind Lue over MDA unless there is a plan to transform the roster into one that can actually compete for a title in 2021. Otherwise, give me 5 years of Lue and minor roster tweaks to see if our "stars" have what it takes to make a Finals run some day.


With Simmons the Sixers had a legitimate chance of being in the finals this year, so I'm not super worried about the chances. They need to figure out the complementary pieces in order to have a good chance of winning the finals and not just making it.
Yeah I don't see it like that. Even with Simmons, I'm not sure this team had a shot. They wouldn't have beaten Miami or Toronto, and probably still would've lost to Boston.

I just think Harris and Richardson were required to be just decent in order for the Sixers to go anywhere, and they were putrid.


Those three teams are the same tier as the Sixers w/ Simmons. They very well could have beaten any or all 3 to get to the finals. Obviously we will never know, but just the defensive impact would have slowed Tatum/Brown/Walker enough to beat Boston. A matter of opinion, but I think people are forgetting how good Ben really is.
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Post#635 » by 76ciology » Sun Sep 27, 2020 3:08 am

After watching the teams in the play-offs, I don’t see how a team would hire Brett if they wish to contend for the title.

Given that I find the FO making a mistake extending his contract. And this is now leading us to have a hard time “overpaying” Lue.
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Post#636 » by 76ciology » Sun Sep 27, 2020 3:09 am

I read a book today about having more information doesn’t usually lead to more accuracy, but it just makes you more confident. And being more confident makes you less flexible.

I feel this can be applied to our analytic team and Brett.
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Post#637 » by youngcrev » Sun Sep 27, 2020 3:38 am

76ciology wrote:I read a book today about having more information doesn’t usually lead to more accuracy, but it just makes you more confident. And being more confident makes you less flexible.

I feel this can be applied to our analytic team and Brett.


Depends on whether you are only using that new information to reinforce existing opinions, like you seem to be doing with that book and Brett :)
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Post#638 » by Sixerscan » Sun Sep 27, 2020 4:23 am

youngcrev wrote:
76ciology wrote:I read a book today about having more information doesn’t usually lead to more accuracy, but it just makes you more confident. And being more confident makes you less flexible.

I feel this can be applied to our analytic team and Brett.


Depends on whether you are only using that new information to reinforce existing opinions, like you seem to be doing with that book and Brett :)

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Post#639 » by 76thBearCub » Sun Sep 27, 2020 5:02 am

51X3RF4N wrote:
sixers4real wrote:As of now, I vote for MDA and blowing this roster. Keep Simmons Embiid, find some other guys. I don’t even care, it can’t be worse. Try once again with Embiid, Simmons and MDA for like 3-4 years. If it does not work, rebuild again.
It can't be worse? Really? Don't curse us!

It can most certainly be worse.


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Post#640 » by eagereyez » Sun Sep 27, 2020 6:23 am

If it comes down to Pringles vs Lue, I'll go with Pringles. This will probably be his last chance to get an NBA ring before he retires, so I expect him to be all-in on winning. With Lue, it sounds like he's just trying to cash in on being carried by Lebron. Lebron carried 5 different coaches to the finals and it looks like Spo will be the only one to get there again without him.

All that said I'd rather see the Sixers bring in someone fresh. I don't know much about college coaches, but I'm sure the next Brad Stevens or Nick Nurse is out there somewhere.

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