The Preseason. All of it.

DCasey91 · Post #641 » by **DCasey91** » Tue Oct 12, 2021 7:41 pm

Fellas what do you think of Shaq Harrison? Man if he could shoot he would stick around as a solid roleplayer. Athletic, brings energy and has defensive chops.

Had a million deflections yesterday lol though he doesn’t play within his limitations

.... I mean I can see the Thybulle + Shaq combo as a crowd pleaser for a short spurt in some games.

Post #642 » by **Sixerscan** » Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:56 pm

Shaq is 28 and I'm pretty sure has played too many seasons to be on a 2 way, not sure what his path to making the roster is, maybe if there's a trade they sign him to a 10 day at some point.

Monix · Post #643 » by **Monix** » Tue Oct 12, 2021 10:07 pm

G-League insurance in case you have to move Thybulle in THE TRADE, gives you a perimeter defender to plug and play

Kobblehead · Post #644 » by **Kobblehead** » Tue Oct 12, 2021 10:11 pm

76ciology wrote:Aaron Henry. What do u guys know about him? I think he has good chance to be a solid 3&D guy. A lot depends on his shooting and he has good foundation with it.

Not a fan. Don't see any plus traits. Good size, though.

SixthStreet · Post #645 » by **SixthStreet** » Wed Oct 13, 2021 1:13 am

Against bad defensive teams they should let Korkmaz run point. He can do it well in the absence of ball pressure. I think he's a better fake PG than Milton. He's done it okay in FIBA ball. However no chance of it working well against a dialed in D.

Kobblehead · Post #646 » by **Kobblehead** » Wed Oct 13, 2021 1:30 am

Embiid + bombers was so fun to watch.

Tobias Harris needs to shoot this year.

DCasey91 · Post #647 » by **DCasey91** » Wed Oct 13, 2021 1:35 am

Kobblehead wrote:Embiid + bombers was so fun to watch.

Tobias Harris needs to shoot this year.

That’s a big ask for Tobias, Gallo was always the bomber (better offensive player anyway).

He’s very durable so that’s a plus buts he’s very very particular in being setup/and scoring. Also he does do wasted moves on the regular.

Doc should just tell him 3 dribbles make a move, shoot, or pass max.

DCasey91 · Post #648 » by **DCasey91** » Wed Oct 13, 2021 1:39 am

Watch on YouTube

Exhibit A. I think Gallo is the best stretch 4 on offense in the comp given that particular stretch/bomber role.

Would rather have him for 20 mill than Harris for double.

Would fit superbly with Embiid imo.

SixthStreet · Post #649 » by **SixthStreet** » Wed Oct 13, 2021 1:50 am

The only quick trigger 3s Tobias like to take are the Simmons hit ahead transition shots. In the half court his 3s are all deliberate, hesitant CnS or multi-dribble PnR off of drop coverages. He's not going to change his stripes at this age. He's comfortable doing what he does.

Kobblehead · Post #650 » by **Kobblehead** » Wed Oct 13, 2021 1:51 am

I liked Harris' trigger from 2017 through 2020. He was operating at a good 5 attempts per-36 shooting pace. He fell off a cliff last year (down to 3.4 attempts per 36). If he has another year not shooting threes, he's not only a bad contract, but also a bad fit. The huge justification for Harris was his age and fit. If he's not shooting threes, he loses half of that proposition.

DCasey91 · Post #651 » by **DCasey91** » Wed Oct 13, 2021 1:56 am

Thing is Harris has only had 4 seasons hitting over 100 3’s

Gallo’s had 8 and basically been on track for 100++ every season but he’s injury prone (though very talented even as a prospect one of the best foreign ones in some time).

I agree about 17-20 he needs to let it fly more and live with the results especially in half court.

blargh · Post #652 » by **blargh** » Wed Oct 13, 2021 3:11 am

I don’t think either Shaq Harrison or Aaron Henry are worth keeping around, either as a developmental prospect or a deep reserve. Harrison makes Thybulle look like an offensive genius. Henry is an older, less promising version of Springer- he’s a couple inches taller, but he doesn’t play like it. Would have preferred to give Petrusev our two way.

76ciology · Post #653 » by **76ciology** » Wed Oct 13, 2021 5:19 am

blargh wrote:I don’t think either Shaq Harrison or Aaron Henry are worth keeping around, either as a developmental prospect or a deep reserve. Harrison makes Thybulle look like an offensive genius. Henry is an older, less promising version of Springer- he’s a couple inches taller, but he doesn’t play like it. Would have preferred to give Petrusev our two way.

The way I see it..

We dont have another good ball handler after Maxey, thus Shaq Harrison

We dont have that big wing defender, thus Aaron Henry

If not Shaq Harrison or Aaron Henry, I think we need a 6’7 tall with large wingspan 3&D guy and a capable PG who can bring down the ball, shoot, can run some 2 man game and play some defense

I dont see the need to activate or get another big. Im quite happy with Drummond, and Im willing to let Paul Reed get some experience

76ciology · Post #654 » by **76ciology** » Wed Oct 13, 2021 5:24 am

Kobblehead wrote:I liked Harris' trigger from 2017 through 2020. He was operating at a good 5 attempts per-36 shooting pace. He fell off a cliff last year (down to 3.4 attempts per 36). If he has another year not shooting threes, he's not only a bad contract, but also a bad fit. The huge justification for Harris was his age and fit. If he's not shooting threes, he loses half of that proposition.

2019-2020: he was trying to improve his 1v1
2020-2021: Doc tries to revive the Clips version of Tobi by pumping his transition points like his clips days

We see the need for Tobi as a stretch 4. I believe the FO wants him to be a shot creator like Middleton or Derozan instead. But the reality is, he’s more like a rich man’s Marcus Morris. He had a hard time backing down Bogdanovic!

Tobi mentioned that he’s trying to improve his 3pt shooting this season during his recent interview, let’s see what happens with that

76ciology · Post #655 » by **76ciology** » Wed Oct 13, 2021 5:27 am

SixthStreet wrote:Against bad defensive teams they should let Korkmaz run point. He can do it well in the absence of ball pressure. I think he's a better fake PG than Milton. He's done it okay in FIBA ball. However no chance of it working well against a dialed in D.

What you said is interesting. I thought he showed better PG skills than Milton last game.

Kork showed flashes of Fournier last game

76ciology · Post #656 » by **76ciology** » Wed Oct 13, 2021 5:28 am

Kobblehead wrote:Embiid + bombers was so fun to watch.

Tobias Harris needs to shoot this year.

But its also because made it be so.

They want to see how their small line-up would perform against us.

Sportfan73 · Post #657 » by **Sportfan73** » Wed Oct 13, 2021 5:42 am

76ciology wrote:
SixthStreet wrote:Against bad defensive teams they should let Korkmaz run point. He can do it well in the absence of ball pressure. I think he's a better fake PG than Milton. He's done it okay in FIBA ball. However no chance of it working well against a dialed in D.

What you said is interesting. I thought he showed better PG skills than Milton last game.

Kork showed flashes of Fournier last game

If Ben is going to play shake shouldn’t get any minutes at all

76ciology · Post #658 » by **76ciology** » Wed Oct 13, 2021 5:49 am

Sportfan73 wrote:
76ciology wrote:
SixthStreet wrote:Against bad defensive teams they should let Korkmaz run point. He can do it well in the absence of ball pressure. I think he's a better fake PG than Milton. He's done it okay in FIBA ball. However no chance of it working well against a dialed in D.

What you said is interesting. I thought he showed better PG skills than Milton last game.

Kork showed flashes of Fournier last game

If Ben is going to play shake shouldn’t get any minutes at all

Im not that big of a fan of shake but in the right context he can be good.

For instance our best 5 man unit last season had Ben, Tobi, Biid, Seth and Shake. I think Shake can play if you dont let him do what he’s not good at and let him do what he’s good at.

blargh · Post #659 » by **blargh** » Wed Oct 13, 2021 5:56 am

76ciology wrote:
blargh wrote:I don’t think either Shaq Harrison or Aaron Henry are worth keeping around, either as a developmental prospect or a deep reserve. Harrison makes Thybulle look like an offensive genius. Henry is an older, less promising version of Springer- he’s a couple inches taller, but he doesn’t play like it. Would have preferred to give Petrusev our two way.

The way I see it..

We dont have another good ball handler after Maxey, thus Shaq Harrison

We dont have that big wing defender, thus Aaron Henry

If not Shaq Harrison or Aaron Henry, I think we need a 6’7 tall with large wingspan 3&D guy and a capable PG who can bring down the ball, shoot, can run some 2 man game and play some defense

I dont see the need to activate or get another big. Im quite happy with Drummond, and Im willing to let Paul Reed get some experience

I don’t see Shaq as a better ball handler than Milton, Korkmaz, or even Joe. I haven’t seen any indication that Henry can guard: it’s probably a safer assumption that a rookie can’t guard.

We don’t really have the roster spot for the guy you’re describing we need, but if we did need somebody to check most of those boxes, I’d sign James Ennis again. Really what we need from our two way though is just a developmental project with some interesting upside. I don’t think Henry or Shaq have that.

Sportfan73 · Post #660 » by **Sportfan73** » Wed Oct 13, 2021 6:37 am

76ciology wrote:
Sportfan73 wrote:
76ciology wrote:
What you said is interesting. I thought he showed better PG skills than Milton last game.

Kork showed flashes of Fournier last game

If Ben is going to play shake shouldn’t get any minutes at all

Im not that big of a fan of shake but in the right context he can be good.

For instance our best 5 man unit last season had Ben, Tobi, Biid, Seth and Shake. I think Shake can play if you dont let him do what he’s not good at and let him do what he’s good at.

Don’t disagree but I don’t think doc will ever play him like that