2025 Fantasy Trade Thread

sammorey · Post #641 » by **sammorey** » Fri Jun 13, 2025 1:06 pm

The guy I can see Morey trading is Maxey. He will never have more trade value than he does now and some team might overpay for him. Plus the top of the draft has a ton of guard talent and we already have Maxey & McCain.

What do you think of this trade? More of a thought exercise since it isn't very realistic. Four Team Deal (Sixers, Celtics, Nets, Spurs)

Sixers In: Derrick White, Cam Johnson, #2 in 2025 (SAS),
Sixers Out: Tyrese Maxey, Andre Drummond, Gordon, #3 in 2025

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Celtics In: Harrison Barnes, #18 in 2025 (BRK), #26 in 2025 (BRK)
Celtics Out: Derrick White, Sam Houser

(Save $19 million this season and a ton the following season)

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Nets In: #3 Pick in 2025 (PHI), Keldon Johnson, Sam Hauser, Gordon
Nets Out: #8 Pick in 2025, #18 pick in 2025, #26 Pick in 2025, Cam Johnson

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Spurs In: Tyrese Maxey, Andre Drummond, #8 Pick in 2025
Spurs Out: Keldon Johnson, Harrison Barnes, #2 Pick in 2025

PG: Derrick White, Dylan Harper
SG: Quentin Grimes, Jared McCain
SF: Cam Johnson, Justin Edwards
PF: Paul George, Kelly Oubre
C: Joel Embiid, Adem Bona

This team could compete in 2025 and pivot if George and/or Embiid break down again. They'd probably have to give up the LAC 1st in this deal and I doubt the Spurs would do it.

the_process · Post #642 » by **the_process** » Fri Jun 13, 2025 1:10 pm

MVP1992 wrote:Spurs #2 & #14, for

Sixers #3 & LAC 2028 top 6? protected, Sixers 2031 unprotected(?), Drummond & Ricky Council (or Eric Gordon).

Sixers pick Harper & whoever is your best available/best fit @ 14 (Cedric Coward for example )

The below figures are from AI search. I haven't personally checked further:
- Drummond + Gordon: Frees $2,630,600 in salary.

- Drummond + Council: Frees $1,361,640 in salary.

Both options keep the Sixers above the cap but increase apron flexibility.

If you unprotect both the 28 LAC and the 30 PHI 1st, there's a shot SA goes for it. And just send them EG. Drummond and Oubre you can trade later. Sixers have room to sign Grines and they won't hard cap themselves at the 1st apron to sign Yabu so he's almost certainly gone unless no one offers him anything above the TMLE (unlikely).

the_process · Post #643 » by **the_process** » Fri Jun 13, 2025 1:19 pm

sammorey wrote:The guy I can see Morey trading is Maxey. He will never have more trade value than he does now and some team might overpay for him. Plus the top of the draft has a ton of guard talent and we already have Maxey & McCain.

What do you think of this trade? More of a thought exercise since it isn't very realistic. Four Team Deal (Sixers, Celtics, Nets, Spurs)

Sixers In: Derrick White, Cam Johnson, #2 in 2025 (SAS),
Sixers Out: Tyrese Maxey, Andre Drummond, Gordon, #3 in 2025

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Celtics In: Harrison Barnes, #18 in 2025 (BRK), #26 in 2025 (BRK)
Celtics Out: Derrick White, Sam Houser

(Save $19 million this season and a ton the following season)

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Nets In: #3 Pick in 2025 (PHI), Keldon Johnson, Sam Hauser, Gordon
Nets Out: #8 Pick in 2025, #18 pick in 2025, #26 Pick in 2025, Cam Johnson

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Spurs In: Tyrese Maxey, Andre Drummond, #8 Pick in 2025
Spurs Out: Keldon Johnson, Harrison Barnes, #2 Pick in 2025

PG: Derrick White, Dylan Harper
SG: Quentin Grimes, Jared McCain
SF: Cam Johnson, Justin Edwards
PF: Paul George, Kelly Oubre
C: Joel Embiid, Adem Bona

This team could compete in 2025 and pivot if George and/or Embiid break down again. They'd probably have to give up the LAC 1st in this deal and I doubt the Spurs would do it.

The big problem here is that the Spurs have Fox and Castle. Which is why they're listening to offers to drop a spot, they don't need another guard.

The most obvious spot for Maxey is ORL for Franz. ORL fans don't love that, and their management is ultra conservative to the point where they don't make very many big trades (too afraid/overrate their own players).

I suspect Morey knows Joel is done.

the_process · Post #644 » by **the_process** » Fri Jun 13, 2025 1:20 pm

CHA gets 3
MIA gets PG, EG, and their 2027 pick returned
PHI gets Robinson, Anderson, Rozier, 4, and 20

sammorey · Post #645 » by **sammorey** » Fri Jun 13, 2025 1:32 pm

the_process wrote:
The big problem here is that the Spurs have Fox and Castle. Which is why they're listening to offers to drop a spot, they don't need another guard.

The most obvious spot for Maxey is ORL for Franz. ORL fans don't love that, and their management is ultra conservative to the point where they don't make very many big trades (too afraid/overrate their own players).

I suspect Morey knows Joel is done.

Nice post. I am not sure Castle is some huge difference maker though. They need someone at guard who can shoot, and Maxey does that.

I've wondered if Morey knows if Joel is done, too. I am just hoping for the best and want to see one more run with Embiid. But, as you said, there is a strong chance everyone involved knows he's toast. Which is maybe why Morey said on a podcast that you won't see a role player version of Embiid. He will either get back to his star self or not. Maybe he is hoping for a medical retirement.

sammorey · Post #646 » by **sammorey** » Fri Jun 13, 2025 1:33 pm

the_process wrote:CHA gets Eric Gordon and 3
MIA gets PG and their 2027 pick returned
PHI gets Wiggins, Rozier, 4, and 20

I am open to trading PG for neutral value. This is close to that.

the_process · Post #647 » by **the_process** » Fri Jun 13, 2025 1:38 pm

sammorey wrote:
the_process wrote:CHA gets Eric Gordon and 3
MIA gets PG and their 2027 pick returned
PHI gets Wiggins, Rozier, 4, and 20

I am open to trading PG for neutral value. This is close to that.

I tweaked it a little to make it slightly better for MIA. Apparently they can open a ton of cap next summer and have big FA plans? And they can draw FA obviously. My question is who's available? Everyone re-signs with their own teams nowadays to make the most money. The only reason PG was available for free was because the Clippers didn't want to go into the 2nd apron.

skulky · Post #648 » by **skulky** » Fri Jun 13, 2025 1:54 pm

Iscull wrote:PHI In: Brandon Miller, #4

CLT In: Oubre, Drummond, #3

Charlotte moves up to get ASS, who replaces Brandon Miller. Add vets.

Philly still gets one of "their guys" and adds a starting SF.

I doubt charlotte would do Brandon miller straight up for #3. They’re not giving up their second best asset to move up one spot in a 2 player draft to the 3rd spot.

They’ll be happy with whoever is available at 4.

mjkvol · Post #649 » by **mjkvol** » Fri Jun 13, 2025 10:09 pm

the_process wrote:
sammorey wrote:
the_process wrote:CHA gets Eric Gordon and 3
MIA gets PG and their 2027 pick returned
PHI gets Wiggins, Rozier, 4, and 20

I am open to trading PG for neutral value. This is close to that.

I tweaked it a little to make it slightly better for MIA. Apparently they can open a ton of cap next summer and have big FA plans? And they can draw FA obviously. My question is who's available? Everyone re-signs with their own teams nowadays to make the most money. The only reason PG was available for free was because the Clippers didn't want to go into the 2nd apron.

I'd do that in a second, but I have to believe that Riley is too smart to take that PG contract.

the_process · Post #650 » by **the_process** » Fri Jun 13, 2025 10:45 pm

If the Heat get Durant, that would make them more likely to want PG. Although to make the money work on both, they would lhave to trade Herro.

PhillyFan11 · Post #651 » by **PhillyFan11** » Sat Jun 14, 2025 3:22 am

the_process wrote:If the Heat get Durant, that would make them more likely to want PG. Although to make the money work on both, they would lhave to trade Herro.

Sixers out: PG & McCain
Sixers in: Herro & Wiggins

Heat out: Herro, Wiggins, Rozier, Robinson
Heat in: KD & PG

Heat out: KD
Heat in: McCain, Rozier, Robinson

That actually works salary wise….just a matter of how many 1st’s the Suns want.

ProcessDoctor · Post #652 » by **ProcessDoctor** » Sat Jun 14, 2025 3:39 pm

Sixers want one of the top 4 players in this draft...get your stones ready.

#3/Embiid/Oubre/2028 LAC 1st for #1/Thompson/Gafford/Washington/Martin

Maxey/McCain/Butler
Grimes/Thompson/Gordon
George/Martin/Edwards
Flagg/Washington/(#35)
Gafford/Bona/Drummond

youngcrev · Post #653 » by **youngcrev** » Sat Jun 14, 2025 3:44 pm

the_process wrote:If the Heat get Durant, that would make them more likely to want PG. Although to make the money work on both, they would lhave to trade Herro.

I imagine they'd prefer their remaining big money players over George at this stage.

Herro was an All Star last year averaging 23.9/5.9/4.7 on .605 TS.

I don't like the guy, but clearly they take him over PG at this stage.

the_process · Post #654 » by **the_process** » Sat Jun 14, 2025 4:38 pm

ProcessDoctor wrote:Sixers want one of the top 4 players in this draft...get your stones ready.

#3/Embiid/Oubre/2028 LAC 1st for #1/Thompson/Gafford/Washington/Martin

Maxey/McCain/Butler
Grimes/Thompson/Gordon
George/Martin/Edwards
Flagg/Washington/(#35)
Gafford/Bona/Drummond

It’s ok value wise, Sixers probably have to add another 1st, but if Nico trades Flagg after trading Doncic… forget Dallas, he’s gonna have to leave Texas for his own safety.

mjkvol · Post #655 » by **mjkvol** » Sat Jun 14, 2025 5:18 pm

ProcessDoctor wrote:Sixers want one of the top 4 players in this draft...get your stones ready.

#3/Embiid/Oubre/2028 LAC 1st for #1/Thompson/Gafford/Washington/Martin

Maxey/McCain/Butler
Grimes/Thompson/Gordon
George/Martin/Edwards
Flagg/Washington/(#35)
Gafford/Bona/Drummond

Nico would not avoid the tar and feather treatment this time if he did something like this that probably tops the Luka trade for idiocy. He would need to enter the Witness Protection Program.

the_process · Post #656 » by **the_process** » Sun Jun 15, 2025 2:32 pm

If the Spurs sent Barnes, Vassell, and 14 to PHX for Durant... does that make them more or less likely to want to move down from 2?

youngcrev · Post #657 » by **youngcrev** » Sun Jun 15, 2025 2:46 pm

Let's just keep trading back 1 or 2 spots at a time and picking up 1sts along the way. "We freaking love VJ!", "Ace is a superstar!", "Tre... Amirite!?!"

End up with Kon and a couple future picks, go home happy.

mjkvol · Post #658 » by **mjkvol** » Sun Jun 15, 2025 2:48 pm

youngcrev wrote:Let's just keep trading back 1 or 2 spots at a time and picking up 1sts along the way. "We freaking love VJ!", "Ace is a superstar!", "Tre... Amirite!?!"

End up with Kon and a couple future picks, go home happy.

Sounds like a perfect draft to me.

youngcrev · Post #659 » by **youngcrev** » Sun Jun 15, 2025 2:48 pm

the_process wrote:If the Spurs sent Barnes, Vassell, and 14 to PHX for Durant... does that make them more or less likely to want to move down from 2?

Neither? Could argue it both ways. You might have a slightly better argument for them adding to their future draft chest to go out and get another superstar once the wheels fall off KD... But you could also argue Harper is that guy to take the reigns.

ProcessDoctor · Post #660 » by **ProcessDoctor** » Sun Jun 15, 2025 2:56 pm

Slightly revised post-draft CHI/GSW/PHI trade...

CHI out: Vucevic, Smith
CHI in: Green, Moody

GSW out: Kuminga (S&T), Green, Moody, 2027 1st, 2031 1st swap
GSW in: Embiid, Oubre

PHI out: Embiid, Oubre
PHI in: Kuminga, Vucevic, Smith, 2027 GSW 1st, 2031 GSW 1st swap

Maxey/McCain/Butler
Grimes/Edgecombe/Gordon
Kuminga/Edwards/Council
George/Smith/(#35)
Vucevic/Bona/Drummond