2024-2025 College Basketball / NBA Draft - Volume III

[Phillybul]

I think Dylan Harper’s shooting is a major concern that’s being overlooked because of his elite positional size, defense, playmaking, and ability to get to the rim. But the truth is, if he can’t shoot, none of that really matters, we’ve seen how that played out with MCW.

What issues with his shooting are major?

On 3s, Harper shot just 29.9% against top 150 and top 50 opponents, padding his numbers with 40% shooting against bottom 215 teams.

In the halfcourt, he shot only 30% on both threes and midrange attempts across all opponents.

Across four years of high school, he averaged just 32.5% from three.

Kevin O’Connor noted: “I watched all 104 of Dylan Harper’s misses at Rutgers, 24 either hit the backboard, were airballs, or got blocked, and nearly a third veered noticeably left or right. On catch-and-shoot attempts, 22.2% of his misses went left and 19.4% went right.”

Visually, his shot is flat with a low release point. In hindsight, calling it a “major concern” might be overstating it, but it’s definitely a concern.

Good stuff posted.

[sodmoraes]

I think Harper will be good, but i wouldnt give an extra pick to get him. Like 76ciology said, his shooting is suspect. And without a 3 ball i dont see him as a surefire star, even with his driving game being pretty good.

[eyeatoma]

With my vote change, I've officially switched to Edgjecomb all though I hold out hope for either Harper or Tre Johnson.

Even you man? I´m disappoint son, you are out of the Book of Ace:

Haha, that attitude is a little scary, could throw it right back at our faces, but he's definitely not going to be a star the first year here.

[zaz102]

I would easily give up a FRP to draft Harper. He's tall, can get to the rim, and is a good playmaker.

His shooting sucks, but I think being compared to MCW is unfair. His numbers were quite a bit better. It's definitely a real concern, but I feel more strongly about his profile than the other options, except maybe Tre, but he also on paper he feels a little redundant with Maxey and McCain.

[76ciology]

I think Harper’s main issue is his low release point, which makes him struggle when contested or shooting off the dribble. His c&s numbers is very good at 42.3%, so he’s not someone you can just leave wide open, but you can afford to sag off a bit to contain the drive because there’s a big drop off in his c&s 3s and non c&s 3s.

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[M2J]

With my vote change, I've officially switched to Edgjecomb all though I hold out hope for either Harper or Tre Johnson.

Even you man? I´m disappoint son, you are out of the Book of Ace:

Haha, that attitude is a little scary, could throw it right back at our faces, but he's definitely not going to be a star the first year here.

Speculative... He had a workout scheduled with Philly before any of this came out and/or was made up

[Black Mage]

Changing my vote back until Ace actually schedules a workout with another team lol. This report could be coming from Pelicans, Utah, or Washington trying to tank his value so he’ll fall. I’m back guys!

I'm on vacation and my buddy texts me the initial report and I just knew the kind of responses I'd enjoy reading by the time i got back to the hotel. So many of those tweets were left vague on purpose.

Kyle Neubeck already blew a hole into the ESPN trash article refuting it. Also it looks like Ace is coming in for 2 days. I'm not taking any of this stuff seriously until either Ace blows off the workout for this week or something leaks about how he did.

[Black Mage]

Why are we only working out two players? Seems odd.

Tre Johnson hasn’t worked out with anyone it seems.

Tre met with Utah. We're just not hearing as much about these works outs anymore.

[Black Mage]

Also, Bodner said he thinks (reading between the lines) that Ace's camp hated the idea of him coming here to be a 4th or 5th option, then reconsidered after realizing how trash his stock actually is (my words) so is going to show up now, lol.

Bodner has reached irrational levels of hate on Ace. He became so jaded by the constant "super chatters" dumping on him about Ace.

[Mik317]

Bodner is the same guy as he was here very quick to get annoyed and then digs his feet in on whatever point he was making to his death lol.

[Negrodamus]

Also, Bodner said he thinks (reading between the lines) that Ace's camp hated the idea of him coming here to be a 4th or 5th option, then reconsidered after realizing how trash his stock actually is (my words) so is going to show up now, lol.

Bodner has reached irrational levels of hate on Ace. He became so jaded by the constant "super chatters" dumping on him about Ace.

He might just not like the prospect’s projection in the NBA. Might have nothing to do with Ace the person since I can’t see a reason for him to actually hate Ace.

[Black Mage]

The anti-Ace contingent has taken over the media and it's absolutely disgusting

I seriously can't recall any prospect being carved up by media quite like this.

[Black Mage]

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Doesn't go to a high school that refines his deficiencies.
Doesn't go to a college with a good coach that will help him flourish in his abilities (or win)
Doesn't hire a good agent.

I'm suspecting that he has poor judgment...

Hmm, Agent tried to strong arm media... media is crucifying agent's client with glee and passion. I'm thinking I'm seeing a connection here...

[Black Mage]

Interesting that the Pelicans just got 23 from Indy and returned Indy's pick to them next year.

Now they have 7, 23, and Herb Jones to offer (for 3). That's certainly better. Even though I would still really like Trey Murphy.

I think this is more Indy wanting 2026 back... we just saw what happened to Tatum who tried to play through a lower leg injury. If Haliburton plays Game 6 and blows out his knee or Achilles Pacers are cooked in 2026.

[Skates]

Ace might be one of the most overhyped/under performing prospects I have seen in a long time. Might be a decent to very good NBA player if he puts the work in but has a ton of holes in his game. He is not the Durant sized creature he was made out to be (and never, ever played like Freshman Durant) his only major appeal to the Sixers at 3 would be fit. He legit belongs in that 3-7 or 8 tier, which are a lot of guys that really are eye of the beholder sorts. I'm very much in favor of trading down to add another asset but probably not past 6, which might be where Ace lands at this point and would be a great get there. I can see value in most of the guys in that range, though Fears is one who I would not grab for the Sixers unless you immediately want to move McCain or Maxey. Give me one of the guys in that tier plus a pick or two or a pick and player and I'd be extremely happy.

[Black Mage]

Also, Bodner said he thinks (reading between the lines) that Ace's camp hated the idea of him coming here to be a 4th or 5th option, then reconsidered after realizing how trash his stock actually is (my words) so is going to show up now, lol.

Bodner has reached irrational levels of hate on Ace. He became so jaded by the constant "super chatters" dumping on him about Ace.

He might just not like the prospect’s projection in the NBA. Might have nothing to do with Ace the person since I can’t see a reason for him to actually hate Ace.

No, he's overly dug-in. He's even reading and responding on sub-reddits to defend himself (even tho no one attacked his opinion) for his Ace takes. He's 100% dug-in and has lost his objectivity.

[MVP1992]

Sixers development in the ben simmons era. Fail.

In the Maxey, McCain, Edwards era... things looking up.

Is that the Sixers organisation, or the players themselves seeking out private coaching that worked?

[youngcrev]

Sixers development in the ben simmons era. Fail.

In the Maxey, McCain, Edwards era... things looking up.

Is that the Sixers organisation, or the players themselves seeking out private coaching that worked?

It's Maxey having a ridiculous work ethic rubbing off on some young guys.

[M2J]

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Doesn't go to a high school that refines his deficiencies.
Doesn't go to a college with a good coach that will help him flourish in his abilities (or win)
Doesn't hire a good agent.

I'm suspecting that he has poor judgment...

Hmm, Agent tried to strong arm media... media is crucifying agent's client with glee and passion. I'm thinking I'm seeing a connection here...

Right... Question is did Cooper or Ace have their agents talk on camera? Did they work out for every team that wants to trade into the top 3?

[M2J]

Also, Bodner said he thinks (reading between the lines) that Ace's camp hated the idea of him coming here to be a 4th or 5th option, then reconsidered after realizing how trash his stock actually is (my words) so is going to show up now, lol.

Bodner has reached irrational levels of hate on Ace. He became so jaded by the constant "super chatters" dumping on him about Ace.

They hated on Jared last year...