Fantasy trade thread: new trade threads merged to here

tgo2223 · Post #661 » by **tgo2223** » Sun May 22, 2011 12:25 am

R u being sarcastic

tgo2223 · Post #662 » by **tgo2223** » Sun May 22, 2011 12:28 am

We get two starters in the sam age group as Jrue, Turner, Thad, Meeks , Hawes, Speights, Brackins and our draft picks. The when brand expires those players will be entering their prime and we will have money to sign a max fa. But yeah i guess thats a dumb idea if u wanna stay a 40 win team

sixerswillrule · Post #663 » by **sixerswillrule** » Sun May 22, 2011 12:34 am

See my trade where we flip Johnson to Sacramento for #7. I'm not interested in a deal where Johnson is the main piece coming back for Iguodala. He's not very good. But I suppose if the Kings felt the same way, they wouldn't make the trade.

LongLiveHinkie · Post #664 » by **LongLiveHinkie** » Sun May 22, 2011 2:35 am

If for some reason the Thunder wanna move Westbrook if they get eliminated, would anyone here trade Jrue and something for him?

Sixerlover · Post #665 » by **Sixerlover** » Sun May 22, 2011 3:11 am

tgo2223 wrote:We get two starters in the sam age group as Jrue, Turner, Thad, Meeks , Hawes, Speights, Brackins and our draft picks. The when brand expires those players will be entering their prime and we will have money to sign a max fa. But yeah i guess thats a dumb idea if u wanna stay a 40 win team

Wouldn't Wes Johnson + Darko be older than every player you named? They don't really much more potential left, they are who they are in my opinion.

Now I'd accept the deal because of the 2nd pick, but Darko + Wes Johnson isn't really much of a gain

jakej26 · Post #666 » by **jakej26** » Sun May 22, 2011 3:19 am

PHI out: Iggy, Lou
PHI in: Nene, Wes, Flynn

MIN out: Wes, Flynn, A. Randolph
MIN in: Lou, Gallinari

DEN out: Nene (S+T), Gallinari
DEN in: Iggy, A. Randolph

Our lineup:
Holiday/Flynn
Turner/Meeks
Johnson/Young
Brand/Speights
Nene/Hawes?

WassaWassa · Post #667 » by **WassaWassa** » Sun May 22, 2011 4:33 am

jakej26 wrote:PHI out: Iggy, Lou
PHI in: Nene, Wes, Flynn

MIN out: Wes, Flynn, A. Randolph
MIN in: Lou, Gallinari

DEN out: Nene (S+T), Gallinari
DEN in: Iggy, A. Randolph

Our lineup:
Holiday/Flynn
Turner/Meeks
Johnson/Young
Brand/Speights
Nene/Hawes?

Isn't Nene a free agent? he is going to get a lot of $$$. I also think Minny would rather have Iggy over Galo.

I'd love a trade of Iggy for Wes and Darko for the reasons pointed out above of stocking up on young talent and having prime cap space when EB comes off the books.

Westbrook, I would do a deal of Jrue + more for R Westbrook in a second but I think it would take a lot more than Jrue to get him. Despite his bad choices in the playoffs he is still an All NBA player at 23 years old. I would think that we would need to give up Jrue and ET for him (not saying I would do that but thats around what it would take).

BringBackKorver · Post #668 » by **BringBackKorver** » Sun May 22, 2011 4:53 am

Why does Denver bring in Iguodala to their rebuilding team?

jakej26 · Post #669 » by **jakej26** » Sun May 22, 2011 5:23 am

BringBackKorver wrote:Why does Denver bring in Iguodala to their rebuilding team?

Because it's the Fantasy Trade Thread and that would be an exciting lineup.

Negrodamus · Post #670 » by **Negrodamus** » Sun May 22, 2011 6:36 am

Point-God wrote:Where's the proof that he can guard perimeter players?

6'9" and great perimeter defender don't go together. If he really had the agility to defend the perimeter he would have more explosive offensive highlights. I'm not buying that he can defend NBA shooting guards on the perimeter. If he can't defend NBA shooting guards to a well above average level, I don't see where he is worth a 1st round pick. When a defensive specialist is brought up that isn't a shot blocking big man, I believe he must be able to at least guard 3 NBA positions easily. I only see Singleton being able to guard power forwards and lessor skilled small forwards. There's no value there.

The fact that Chris Singleton isn't a top 10 pick in this draft is solely because of the terrible coaching he received at FSU. He was a stud coming out of HS and could have had a chance to be something great if he went to a school like Tennessee or Kentucky (If my memory serves me, those were the other two he was considering).

Enough people are talking about him as a defensive specialist for me to feel confident that he can play defend the 3. he also had great steal and block numbers.

He played against Singler when FSU played Duke. On FSU's basketball message boards, all of the fans are singing praises about his ability to defend multiple positions.

If the confirmation you want about Singleton's defense is me watching FSU game tape from the past 3 years, then I'm sorry... I refuse to watch the garbage basketball they play down in Tallahassee. But it is well documented that Singleton can lockdown defend.

Point-God · Post #671 » by **Point-God** » Sun May 22, 2011 9:02 am

Kobblehead wrote:Since when has standing reach become the standard? Especially when talking about a pogo-stick athlete like Singleton. I could see if we were talking about some grounded Euro. But an advanced defender like Singleton with the footwork and instincts he possess? I don't see how standing reach is that much of a factor.

You'll have to present a defensive PF in the NBA with a standing reach below 8'8"

I'm guessing you made that statement with Chuck Hayes in mind. Being how his standing reach is just a half an inch over that bar you set. I don't see how it's that significant.

So you can't present a defensive PF already in the league with that standing reach. What that shows is that people are reaching when projecting this guy. You don't select a guy in the 1st round who has such unprecedented limitations for what he's projected to do. You expect this guy to do in the NBA what possibly has never been done. That's insane.

corwin · Post #672 » by **corwin** » Sun May 22, 2011 12:13 pm

Saw on the other Philly board that I visit that Iguodala for Monta Ellis is out there. Than today I read Kate's column saying the same thing & Thorn's comments that the team needs a SG that can score. Monta may be undersized at the 2 but with Jrue covering the better offensive player (think Eric Snow) that might not be such a bad mix. GS has new ownership, management & now Jerry West. In any case, where there is smoke, there is usually fire.

freshie2 · Post #673 » by **freshie2** » Sun May 22, 2011 12:34 pm

You have to consider overall talent when you look at a players length or any other measurable. You aren't drafting track stars or circus acts, so if a guy can jump out of the gym, it doesn't mean he's an NBA player, if he can touch the rim flatfooted, it doesn't mean he can be a shot blocker. The guys with the more extreme measurables usually aren't even good NBA players. I'm all for length, but Singleton looks like a nice defensive player regardless of his wingspan or standing reach.

freshie2 · Post #674 » by **freshie2** » Sun May 22, 2011 12:41 pm

Unless it is a smokescreen...I can't see Ellis for Iguodala happening, and I think ET is the SG of the future for this team. Didn't like ETs matchups against the bigger SFs and am confident his jumper will improve. That being said, Jerry West is in GSW, so I wouldn't be shocked if Ellis is moved for winning pieces, but I hope that Thorn isn't pulling the trigger if that is offered.

Post #675 » by **HartfordWhalers** » Sun May 22, 2011 1:19 pm

corwin wrote:Saw on the other Philly board that I visit that Iguodala for Monta Ellis is out there. Than today I read Kate's column saying the same thing & Thorn's comments that the team needs a SG that can score. Monta may be undersized at the 2 but with Jrue covering the better offensive player (think Eric Snow) that might not be such a bad mix. GS has new ownership, management & now Jerry West. In any case, where there is smoke, there is usually fire.

I didn't see that in the article and looked for it.

SouthJersey · Post #676 » by **SouthJersey** » Sun May 22, 2011 2:04 pm

Westbrook36 wrote:If for some reason the Thunder wanna move Westbrook if they get eliminated, would anyone here trade Jrue and something for him?

Funny, I was thinking the same thing. Would Jrue, Lou, Speights and our 1st do it?

Probably not, but I dont think the Sixers should give up more than that.

And actually while thinking more of doing a total rebuild..

The Sixers then trade Iguodala and Hawes to Minnesota for

The #2 and Pekovic.

New lineup looks like

Westbrook/ Vet min PG
Turner/ Meeks
Thad/Turner/ Noc
Brand/ Thad
#2/ Pekovic

Kobblehead · Post #677 » by **Kobblehead** » Sun May 22, 2011 3:03 pm

Point-God wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:Since when has standing reach become the standard? Especially when talking about a pogo-stick athlete like Singleton. I could see if we were talking about some grounded Euro. But an advanced defender like Singleton with the footwork and instincts he possess? I don't see how standing reach is that much of a factor.

You'll have to present a defensive PF in the NBA with a standing reach below 8'8"

I'm guessing you made that statement with Chuck Hayes in mind. Being how his standing reach is just a half an inch over that bar you set. I don't see how it's that significant.

So you can't present a defensive PF already in the league with that standing reach. What that shows is that people are reaching when projecting this guy. You don't select a guy in the 1st round who has such unprecedented limitations for what he's projected to do. You expect this guy to do in the NBA what possibly has never been done. That's insane.

Remember, I just went with your scenario hypothetically. I, along with NBA scouts, think he's going to be a shutdown defender along the perimeter.

Also, standing reach aside, I think he's going to be able to defend every stretch four in the league with no problem whatsoever. I'll take his athleticism, footwork, and instincts over something (IMO, as trivial) as standing reach.

WassaWassa · Post #678 » by **WassaWassa** » Sun May 22, 2011 3:13 pm

SouthJersey wrote:
Westbrook36 wrote:If for some reason the Thunder wanna move Westbrook if they get eliminated, would anyone here trade Jrue and something for him?

Funny, I was thinking the same thing. Would Jrue, Lou, Speights and our 1st do it?

Probably not, but I dont think the Sixers should give up more than that.

And actually while thinking more of doing a total rebuild..

The Sixers then trade Iguodala and Hawes to Minnesota for

The #2 and Pekovic.

New lineup looks like

Westbrook/ Vet min PG
Turner/ Meeks
Thad/Turner/ Noc
Brand/ Thad
#2/ Pekovic

If I'm OKC I would be looking to move Westbrook and more for D Howard or CP3.

SouthJersey · Post #679 » by **SouthJersey** » Sun May 22, 2011 3:52 pm

Possible but wont they be Free Agents soon?

corwin · Post #680 » by **corwin** » Sun May 22, 2011 4:07 pm

HartfordWhalers wrote:
corwin wrote:Saw on the other Philly board that I visit that Iguodala for Monta Ellis is out there. Than today I read Kate's column saying the same thing & Thorn's comments that the team needs a SG that can score. Monta may be undersized at the 2 but with Jrue covering the better offensive player (think Eric Snow) that might not be such a bad mix. GS has new ownership, management & now Jerry West. In any case, where there is smoke, there is usually fire.

I didn't see that in the article and looked for it.

Here's the site: http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/six ... _step.html
The article is titled: In Thorn's quest to improve 76ers, a scorer is first step

The article goes on to discuss Monta Ellis, Kevin Martin, OJ Mayo, James Harden & Danny Granger. It's an interesting read because many of us assumed they were trying to get a big for Iggy. Maybe the deal for a big that Thorn would accept is not there (Kaman, Varejao, Jefferson, Biedrins, Milcic, etc.) & this is the next need of the team.