Sixers, Cavs, Wolves.

[Gsraider]

To not take a 1st rounder for Thad Young is foolish. Thad Young doesn't move the needle. They're going to be the worst team with or without him, and NOBODY is going to give the 76ers anything for Thad Young at the trade deadline. A good team would be trying to manage their cap and wouldn't want to take the chance on him picking up his option, and a bad team wouldn't give up their pick for him.

And a #1 that is most likely in the 20's does not move the needle either. In fact, with such an incredibly young team in need of veteran leadership, you could argue that Young has more value this year to the guys currently on the roster than a mediocre pick next year. I'm pretty certain that Philly could easily get a 2nd round pick for Young at the deadline like they did with Hawes and possibly more if Young agrees to exercise his option with the team acquiring him before the trade is made. To me, if the Wolves really want him, then they have to at least throw in a younger prospect that Philly might want. Otherwise, I'd rather roll the dice and wait.

With that, I fully understand that they could be walking away from a later first round pick. In last year's draft, I probably bite. For this one, I'll take my chances.

[LloydFree]

To not take a 1st rounder for Thad Young is foolish. Thad Young doesn't move the needle. They're going to be the worst team with or without him, and NOBODY is going to give the 76ers anything for Thad Young at the trade deadline. A good team would be trying to manage their cap and wouldn't want to take the chance on him picking up his option, and a bad team wouldn't give up their pick for him.

And a #1 that is most likely in the 20's does not move the needle either. In fact, with such an incredibly young team in need of veteran leadership, you could argue that Young has more value this year to the guys currently on the roster than a mediocre pick next year. I'm pretty certain that

Philly could easily get a 2nd round pick for Young at the deadline like they did with Hawes and possibly more if Young agrees to exercise his option with the team acquiring him before the trade is made. To me, if the Wolves really want him, then they have to at least throw in a younger prospect that Philly might want. Otherwise, I'd rather roll the dice and wait.

With that, I fully understand that they could be walking away from a later first round pick. In last year's draft, I probably bite. For this one, I'll take my chances.

That veteran leadership bull, is nothing but nonsense. Thad Young won't offer the 76ers any more leadership, than JJ Barea or Mbah aMoute.

[BullyKing]

I guess I'm in the minority but I'll take the 1st for Thad and move on. Sure, I'd have liked to get Bennett or Shabazz and maybe we could still get GRIII thrown in. But I don't think Thad does anything for us since he's gone in a year anyway. He's basically in the same position as Gortat last year and the return is about the same.

I, for one, also think the Miami pick has a chance to be pretty good. They are an older team and need to watch Wade's minutes. They strike me as the kind of team that will want to rest their players as much as possible while still managing to get into the playoffs. I think it is more likely to be in the 15-20 range than the 25-30 range. Yes, you're unlikely to get a star in that slot. But its not out of the realm of possibility that you get a useful role player for this team going forward. The back half of the first round in the last couple years included Giannis (well #15 but close enough), Snell, Dieng, THJ, Terrence Jones, Nicholson, Fournier, Sullinger, Miles Plumlee, Kawhi (#15 again), Vuc, Shumpert, Tobias Harris, Faried, Mirotic, Reggie Jackson.

Any of those players at the start of a cheap rookie scale contract are a fine return for an about-to-be-UFA Thad.

[LongLiveHinkie]

Even if it is 16-20, that pick still has very little interest to me.

I'd keep Thad Young just so Minny couldn't get the satisfaction of getting their way.

You are right in the fact that Thad does nothing for the Sixers this year, but that doesn't mean you need to trade him. He's a good player. I'm against giving good players away for crap just out of principle and I consider Miami's pick pretty crappy value for the caliber the player Thad is.

[BullyKing]

Even if it is 16-20, that pick still has very little interest to me.

I'd keep Thad Young just so Minny couldn't get the satisfaction of getting their way.

No offense but that's a pretty childish perspective. Hinkie has been at least open, if not trying, to trade Thad for over a year now. I think he has a good idea of Thad's value around the league. I mean, if a pick 16-20 has no interest to you, what do you expect to get back for Thad? Perhaps your expectations are too high. As I mentioned, this is pretty much the return PHX got for Gortat. Do you think Thad's value is that much higher?

[42uptop]

If we trade Thad I want us to get at least one prospect in return, someone who can come in and play with our team right away. The late 1st round pick does nothing for me. We've already had enough picks. It's time to start targeting players to come in and complement Embiid and Noel and MCW

[Gsraider]

That veteran leadership bull, is nothing but nonsense. Thad Young won't offer the 76ers any more leadership, than JJ Barea or Mbah aMoute.

If you say so, then I guess it's settled then.

[LongLiveHinkie]

I don't really use other team's trades as the basis for "my own." For example, if another team trades a player for what I considered unfair value, that doesn't mean I'd do the same.

I'd set the value at what I wanted, and if I didn't get it, I wouldn't trade. I want a young player for him. Someone we can get in with the staff and start developing.

There is no evidence that Hinkie has been trying to trade Thad. He may be open to the idea, but he if he was so desperate to move him, he'd be gone already.

[Sixerscan]

If we trade Thad I want us to get at least one prospect in return, someone who can come in and play with our team right away. The late 1st round pick does nothing for me. We've already had enough picks. It's time to start targeting players to come in and complement Embiid and Noel and MCW

Well if there's one person that has made it pretty clear that he doesn't care if the guy the 76ers acquire can play this year, it's Hinkie.

[Sixerscan]

I don't really use other team's trades as the basis for "my own." For example, if another team trades a player for what I considered unfair value, that doesn't mean I'd do the same.

I'd set the value at what I wanted, and if I didn't get it, I wouldn't trade. I want a young player for him. Someone we can get in with the staff and start developing.

There is no evidence that Hinkie has been trying to trade Thad. He may be open to the idea, but he if he was so desperate to move him, he'd be gone already.

Yes there is.

[34Charles]

If Bennett isn't coming back in the deal....I hope the 76ers hold on to Thad. I have no interest in getting any of the other guys mentioned....Barrea, Luc, Shabazz, Shved.

[LongLiveHinkie]

I don't really use other team's trades as the basis for "my own." For example, if another team trades a player for what I considered unfair value, that doesn't mean I'd do the same.

I'd set the value at what I wanted, and if I didn't get it, I wouldn't trade. I want a young player for him. Someone we can get in with the staff and start developing.

There is no evidence that Hinkie has been trying to trade Thad. He may be open to the idea, but he if he was so desperate to move him, he'd be gone already.

Yes there is.

Provide that evidence then, please.

[Sixerscan]

I don't really use other team's trades as the basis for "my own." For example, if another team trades a player for what I considered unfair value, that doesn't mean I'd do the same.

I'd set the value at what I wanted, and if I didn't get it, I wouldn't trade. I want a young player for him. Someone we can get in with the staff and start developing.

There is no evidence that Hinkie has been trying to trade Thad. He may be open to the idea, but he if he was so desperate to move him, he'd be gone already.

Yes there is.

Provide that evidence then, please.

Do I really need to provide evidence for this? By all reports already agreed to trade him to Minny two weeks ago. What do you think, he sleepwalked and made the trade?

[LongLiveHinkie]

Yes there is.

Provide that evidence then, please.

Do I really need to provide evidence for this? By all reports already agreed to trade him to Minny two weeks ago. What do you think, he sleepwalked and made the trade?

First, I don't necessarily agree he was agreed to be traded. I still think there is a strong chance he isn't traded at all. I will be stunned if he is traded for that new rumored package. Stunned. It's just not going to happen and I'll eat all the crow in the world if it does.

Second, you can have a team call you and ask if a player is available without "trying to trade him." I don't think Hinkie was desperately calling teams begging the to take Thad Young and that's what "trying to trade" implies. Like I said, I think he's open to trading any player, but I don't think he was shopping Thad around as much as people think he was.

[Sixerscan]

Provide that evidence then, please.

Do I really need to provide evidence for this? By all reports already agreed to trade him to Minny two weeks ago. What do you think, he sleepwalked and made the trade?

First, I don't necessarily agree he was agreed to be traded. I still think there is a strong chance he isn't traded at all. I will be stunned if he is traded for that new rumored package. Stunned. It's just not going to happen and I'll eat all the crow in the world if it does.

Second, you can have a team call you and ask if a player is available without "trying to trade him." I don't think Hinkie was desperately calling teams begging the to take Thad Young and that's what "trying to trade" implies. Like I said, I think he's open to trading any player, but I don't think he was shopping Thad around as much as people think he was.

If the main local beat reporter saying that a player has been traded isn't evidence, what exactly would count as evidence?

You can choose not to draw a conclusion from the evidence. It doesn't make it not evidence.

[LongLiveHinkie]

That's not where we are disagreeing.

I am disputing Hinkie "trying to trade" Thad, which implies he's going out of his way to do it.

If Minnesota called Hinkie and asked if he was willing to trade Thad Young, and Hinkie agreed to a deal, that does not qualify as Hinkie "trying to trade him" if Hinkie didn't initiate the conversation.

[BullyKing]

I don't really use other team's trades as the basis for "my own." For example, if another team trades a player for what I considered unfair value, that doesn't mean I'd do the same.

I'd set the value at what I wanted, and if I didn't get it, I wouldn't trade. I want a young player for him. Someone we can get in with the staff and start developing.

There is no evidence that Hinkie has been trying to trade Thad. He may be open to the idea, but he if he was so desperate to move him, he'd be gone already.

Yes there is.

You're debating with someone who thinks what similar players fetched in recent trades is irrelevant to determining the value of your own players. He must be a big Amaro fan.

[Sixerscan]

I guess if that's your definition. In my mind if someone traded a player, he tried to trade the player (and was successful in the attempt)

[LongLiveHinkie]

I don't really use other team's trades as the basis for "my own." For example, if another team trades a player for what I considered unfair value, that doesn't mean I'd do the same.

I'd set the value at what I wanted, and if I didn't get it, I wouldn't trade. I want a young player for him. Someone we can get in with the staff and start developing.

There is no evidence that Hinkie has been trying to trade Thad. He may be open to the idea, but he if he was so desperate to move him, he'd be gone already.

Yes there is.

You're debating with someone who thinks what similar players fetched in recent trades is irrelevant to determining the value of your own players. He must be a big Amaro fan.

At the end of the day, you have to take a deal you are comfortable with. If you aren't comfortable with the value, then accepting a trade offer just because another GM did something similar is freaking asinine.

[BullyKing]

Yes there is.

You're debating with someone who thinks what similar players fetched in recent trades is irrelevant to determining the value of your own players. He must be a big Amaro fan.

At the end of the day, you have to take a deal you are comfortable with. If you aren't comfortable with the value, then accepting a trade offer just because another GM did something similar is freaking asinine.

Again, what specific trades for Thad would you be comfortable with? And why, if you did not get that price exactly, would you rather just let him walk for nothing? Oh yeah, to spite the team that refused your demands.